cjhillman
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cjhillman
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Jun 27, 2023 21:27:12 GMT
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braaap
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So that is NOT a permanent installation? Only during that, erm I mean THAT festival?
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Jun 28, 2023 10:06:56 GMT
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OK these people have a ton of money to blow on this sort of "art" - multiply your ticket price by the number of attendees and then think about that.
That Mercury Convertible was in a museum and was up for sale as an "over stock" for £12000. I enquired after it but the seller was snotty and I wasn't up for haggling with him.
I understand (and am happy to be corrected) that they used good, straight, fairly non-rusty cars for this as they didn't want risk of anyone getting caught on rusty edges of things. You've seen them up close, I haven't. Engines and so on will have been removed because they contain "contaminants"
is it "art", well, its not new or innovative, people have been doing this for years.
Why use classics? Well, because they are cool, right? And they don't care about cars, they care about having a talking point for the festival. IMHO a waste of decent classic cars.
I suspect they'll all end up crushed? Or is it a permenant fixture now?
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2023 10:07:49 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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cjhillman
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Jun 28, 2023 11:12:36 GMT
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Hey akku I did some reading up and it looks like the guy is a massive American car guy, looks like he buys these too facilitates his love for them. On the flip side though I cant imagine they can be put back to road worthiness after being stuck in the ground. Not without major work anyway. The Silver shadow looked terrible up close but theres a million of them . The jags still had their axles just missing engines for the reasons you mention I guess and the weight. Looks like last year they did a field of these old cars as a drive in cinema which I can get on board with a lot more. The convertible I sat in (is that the Mercury?) wasn't in good nick at all inside and the Edsel had holes all down the cills. I've never seen an Edsel before so was surprised the most about that. The Capris made me feel a lot better about mine haha. I don't think they'll be crushed but you are right about the money/ticket prices. |
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Jun 28, 2023 12:56:37 GMT
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I look at this in a similar way to banger racing. The artist paid for the cars so they're theirs to do whatever they want. At least this is a more creative use of cars than banger racing who's participants often seem take a pleasure in p***ing people off when they wreck a classic car, the rarer the better. No it's not original. The Cadillac Ranch in Texas would probably be the first famous car art installation (created in 1974).  Those cars were all bought from scrapyards back in the day and probably weren't worth a great deal anyway at that time. Does the fact that car henge isn't original really matter? If all art had to be base on an original idea that would exclude 99% of everything in the world's galleries (Sorry Leonardo, we've already got a painting of Jesus, have you tried sticking a cow's head down a toilet or something?). Somebody who I follow on instagram tried to buy the remains of the 2CV but they (somebody on the Glasto staff) said it was too knackered to restored. My guess is the whole lot will end up in Elton John's back garden. |
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braaap
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Jun 28, 2023 13:01:42 GMT
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Well, in the end everybody can do with his money what he wants to do. E.g. buy a car to enjoy or to destroy. That way some nice cars can end up either in carhenge or in Top Gear and will not end up any good. The story here reminds me of a german car dealer and artist, Michael Froehlich. He lives near Düsseldorf and for his 50th birthday he bought 50 classics, some freshly restored american rarity among them, and he put them on his grand wood like estate with open roofs or windows, set out against the elements.  |
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Jun 28, 2023 14:15:28 GMT
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That's one I find harder to understand (and not just because I can't read German) or the collectors (usually American or middle eastern) who buy up a bunch of rare classics and lock them away in a climate controlled storage never to be driven.
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Jun 28, 2023 14:35:35 GMT
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No it's not original. The Cadillac Ranch in Texas would probably be the first famous car art installation (created in 1974). Those cars were all bought from scrapyards back in the day and probably weren't worth a great deal anyway at that time. I'll spare the debate on the originality of art for another time I read an interview with the Cadillac Ranch guys years ago. The cars were not bought from scrap yards, at least not all. They were making some kind of socio-political point or something. As I understand most of the cars were driven there and driven into place. You are correct they were not worth much back then. As I recall one of the cars was bought from the original owner. According to the interview - one of the cars they bought off a guy who had just spent ages restoring it. As the front end was going into the ground anyway and because he was so proud of the work he had done on it they attacked it with hammers and axes in front of him right after paying for it, and thought it was so funny he was upset. I kinda lost respect for them after that. |
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Last Edit: Jun 29, 2023 8:44:14 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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braaap
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Jun 28, 2023 18:21:14 GMT
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According to the interview - one of the cars they bought off a guy who had just spent ages restoring it. As the front end was going into the ground anyway and because he was so proud of the work he had done on it they attacked it with hammers and axes in front of him right after paying for it, and thought it was so funny he was upset. This reminds me of a story I read in a german classic car magazine back in the 80s I guess. Two guys had restored a vintage Aero car. But one day they destroyed it in a public place, with hammers and axes, too. It was going to be a statement about the car as a fetish or something like that. Maybe they became Über-religious, joined a cult or whatever. They carried the remains of that car away in buckets after that. |
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