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Our new garage is coming along and the roof went on yesterday. Now the floor can dry out and my thoughts are moving towards painting the floor before any oil etc is spilt on it. Was thinking of an epoxy coating, as we intend to stay here for a long time! Can any of the learned RR folks offer any help / opinions / shared experiences please? Thanks, Duncan  |
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slater
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Tile it.
Failing that cheapest floorpaint you can find and put up with having to do it regularly.
No floor paint will be any better than cheap single part stuff. Been there done that with all kinds of fancy epoxy and primers and all that. None of it is any better than cheap stuff.
Proper industrial resin floor as used in factories etc is good but not really diyable I don't think.
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Nice looking garage!
I just went with a concrete sealer on my floor. I try to be quick with cleaning up any oil and other liquids. I use brake cleaner and paper for that.
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Mines painted and I keep having to re do it.
I've changed to a polyurethane paint this time and it's definitely holding up much better than the Leyland paint I used last time.
The key is prep. You need to power wash the raw concrete hard and get rid of as much powder from the surface, then use a proper penetrating sealer and allow to cure before the paint.
Mine was originally painted already when I bought the house, but its clear it wasn't sealed first. When the paint lifts its not because it's failed, but its the sub surface pulling away. With proper prep and sealant that shouldn't happen... as much at least...
That said, no paint will really survive chipping from dropped things, so there will always be maintenance needed.
If money wasn't a deciding factor for me, then I'd likely get an industrial epoxy floor screed done.
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I'm in the same boat as yourself.
I built a garage some years ago and powerfloated the floor when constructing the garage so it was super smooth.
I then put garage floor paint directly to it and it lasted really well.
Where I live now I also had a very smooth floor although it was built maybe 60 years ago.
I decided that it should have some sort of primer as it had been driven on for many years so I did a 10 to 1 pva.
Painted with garage floor paint and within weeks everytime it had a drip of oil, petrol or even antifreeze it was bubbling.
I've now built a new garage and again had the floor power floated and I'm debating which way to go.
I've bought some everest floor sealer this time and was going to go down the floor paint route but we were discussing epoxy flooring paint last night down the pub so I'm now considering this myself.
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I used everest polyurethane paint, and their concrete sealant.
Going by the horrific chemical and solvent stench from the sealant, and it's "feel" it is very different stuff to watered down PVA.
Its seemed to have penetrated better than I've had with pva
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I used everest polyurethane paint, and their concrete sealant. Going by the horrific chemical and solvent stench from the sealant, and it's "feel" it is very different stuff to watered down PVA. Its seemed to have penetrated better than I've had with pva That's good to know |
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Thanks everyone for their input. I am erring towards sealer and then an epoxy coating at the moment. It's likely to be expensive whatever we do due to the floor area. It is 12m x 9m, so a useful size and tall enough to get the old VW LT MotorHaus inside. Also never had a pit before, which is most exciting!
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Now with the insulated roof sheets on.......  |
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Mar 13, 2023 16:55:47 GMT
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After trying many different brands of paint in my old purpose built workshop which never stayed attached to the concrete no matter what I primed it with I ended up having to scrabble the floor and had a new latex floor covered by vinyl floor square tiles, went for the slightly thicker heavy duty one's mainly because it was a end of line discount, although I did have two different colours as not enough of one!!
Proved to be a far better environment without the cloud's of concrete dust in the air (and not settling on the cars paintwork!!), I did have a thin piece of plywood that I would put under any area where welding or grinding was taking place though, just to help protect it from the hot sparks. In the new garage I opted straight for the vinyl tiles
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Mar 29, 2023 19:06:26 GMT
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In a surprise turn of events the Primer for the floor was delivered this afternoon, Just after I had finished emptying the workshop. Result.  20200422_161034 by logicaluk, on Flickr That's, 2 rollers, a cage, acid etch/cleaner, 10l of 2pack epoxy high build primer and 10l of the light grey top coat for £225. Step 1a sweep the floor then hover it to get as much dust off it as possible. Step 1b wet the floor and sweep it again and marvel at the amount of dust that was still in there.  20200422_173237 by logicaluk, on Flickr Step 1c mix the acid 1:2 with water spread evenly around work in with brush.  20200422_180247 by logicaluk, on Flickr Step 1d re apply and work in with brush then leave for 10 mins while I scoff a half cold dinner.  20200422_182110 by logicaluk, on Flickr Step 1e sweep out and rinse out with 2 buckets of clean water. Step 1e.1 Do it again. Step 1e.2 And again, (did that actually do anything?). Step 1e.3 Surely not. Step 1e.4 This time an improvement, but how the hell is this stuff hanging on after it has had a bucket of water dumped on it and been scrubbed for a few mins, swilling the water over it repeatedly. Step 1e.5 Defiantly almost, nearly there. Step 1e.6 Oh that will do. Step 1e.7 No it won't.  20200422_202403 by logicaluk, on Flickr Step 1f Go fo a refreshing beverage. More tomorrow that took 4 hours to do. more info in my garage build thread Dan |
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I've just done my garage floor in this stuff: coloursupplies.shop/collections/industrial-paints-coating/products/dacrylate-dac-crete-floor-paintA couple of friends have used it and liked the results. It still gets scratched when things are dragged across it but easy enough to touch in. Method was to clean off the concrete off any loose debris. Then apply a thin coat of 50:50 paint to thinner that soaks in and seals. Then two standard coats on top. Then leave for at least a week, preferably two and ventilated. I used most of a 5 litre can with 1 litre of thinners to do a 6 x 3m garage. As others have said no paint is going to do a perfect job but a painted floor is a lot nicer and then use some of the halfords mats on top for where you are working. |
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I used an ancient drum of that cheapo stuff (red) you see advertised here and there and found the trick was to ensure it was mixed well as the PO had bought it and not done that and it was basically clear with all the pigment at bottom. I met him years later at a bike show and he said 'that barn was a nightmare. it was so wet the paint wouldn't dry on floor'. I didn't bother correcting him. Later I tried Armstead floor paint (green) and it has been fine too. I actually manually wire-brush the floor (40' x 15') before painting it. Doesn't take as long as you'd imagine and seems to give a clean surface for the paint to stick to  .  .  . |
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I’ve had an extension done recently and had to do the garage floor. It was fresh concrete, so I used the concrete sealer and left it to dry for over a week in the summer as I was on holiday. Bought the “No Nonsense” floor paint from Screwfix for ~£25. Followed the instructions to the letter, did the two coats with a week inbetween for curing, and left it for another two weeks before even walking on it.
Dropped a bit of wood on it from a height as I was putting up a shelf - took a chunk out of the paint.
So yeah, cheap paint, paint twice (or more depending how clumsy you are)
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I’ve had an extension done recently and had to do the garage floor. It was fresh concrete, so I used the concrete sealer and left it to dry for over a week in the summer as I was on holiday. Bought the “No Nonsense” floor paint from Screwfix for ~£25. Followed the instructions to the letter, did the two coats with a week inbetween for curing, and left it for another two weeks before even walking on it. Dropped a bit of wood on it from a height as I was putting up a shelf - took a chunk out of the paint. So yeah, cheap paint, paint twice (or more depending how clumsy you are) Your floor sounds a little better than mine. Mine was MEGA dusty. I used the Floorsaver Epoxy paint. It's been almost a year now. Observations. Overall good, but it has flaked in some places, albeit not many. Ironically, where the car goes on with stones and all, it's perfect! I did do the following -Use Floor etcher and brick acid to attempt to get the latience off the floor. -Pressure washed it -Painted the floor when it was damp. I probably could have given this a little longer. However, compared to what it was before, and the abuse I've given the floor, it's held up very well, and it's a HUGE improvement from the dusty floor I had before. It was awful before. The jetwashing removed alot of latience. I probably could have gone thinner with the coats in between painting the floor, which didn't help. But it's overall, holding up well. The 4 places it has flaked up are less than a 5p piece, even where I've dragged heavy things across it. My neighbours floors in their garages are not as good as mine. Ideally, if you were putting a floor down, you'd powerfloat it. |
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