LowStandards
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Sooooooo I think she's as far as i'll get to take her before the Gathering There is, as always, a few things i'm not happy with. The seat is grim, I used the wrong stitch type and it's pulling in weird shapes The front wheels look so smol, I wanted to use rear wheels and tyres, but the steering lock would be compromised, but I might have to just do it and see how she goes. She has no arches as yet. I have the steel, but probably not the time to make them, the fronts are compicated at best. Here's a mockup of the rears, you can see they will really make everything pop I think making 4 of them will take a fair few hours and i've got to pack my van and go shopping etc, so we'll see
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LowStandards
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Had a blast on this at RRG Best Toilet Transport in a long list Question is, do I finish and refine it (and store it) or do I cut it's face off, make it look like a Mini Moke and sell it for many pennies and move on to the next one? I fancy a pocket bike and sidecar setup with a vintage engine I have a little 1.1bhp, 75cc Suffolk engine, which sounds glorious boggling away It would be slooooooow though, but that's ideal as toilet transport
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Aug 17, 2023 14:23:08 GMT
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Oh definitely get rid of it... but only because then I 'd hopefully get to read another cracking build thread if you do the pocket bike! Suffolk engine sounds perfect!
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1968 Mini MkII, 1968 VW T1, 1967 VW T1, 1974 VW T1, 1974 VW T1 1303, 1975 Mini 1000 auto, 1979 Chevette, 1981 Cortina, 1978 Mini 1000 1981 Mini City, 1981 Mini van, 1974 Mini Clubman, 1982 Metro City, 1987 Escort, 1989 Lancia Y10, 1989 Cavalier, 1990 Sierra, 1990 Renault 19, 1993 Nova, 1990 Citroen BX, 1994 Ford Scorpio, 1990 Renault Clio, 2004 Citroen C3, 2006 Citroen C2, 2004 Citroen C4, 2013 Citroen DS5. 2017 DS3 130 Plenty of other scrappers!
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Aug 17, 2023 14:27:22 GMT
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Need to see it at a show alongside the Mini Scamp before you get rid.
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LowStandards
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Aug 30, 2023 14:25:49 GMT
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I've been thinking lots about this and I have a few things lying about to make a start on what's in my head First lets talk about the mini bike. I really want a mini bike, it's a bike, that's mini right. I was driving up my road the other day and this was left out for scrap, I of course chucked it in the van. A few minutes at home confirmed it ran What we have is a Wolf Garten Scooter. A very random mower/motorbike/quad thingy I could do it up a little and sell it or play with it as is, but it has a few things on it that would be ideal for a mini bike (bear with me) The wheels are vintage mini bike size, 4 inch wheels, 10 inch tyres. But there's 4 of them and 2 of them are attached to an axle I hear you shout. Well, it turns out the rear axle is chain driven and it has a diff It also turns out mini bikes with sidecars were a thing back in the day as well Look at it; amaze I'll need to do some measuring but I think something like the above will work. It wont be as wide, maybe just a foot plate where the cooler is above. Oh, it also has a 3 speed plus reverse gearbox, which would be nice as I could have slow and torquey if someone's standing on it and all the speeds if i'm on the flat on my jones. I'd have to take a looksee though, because the engine that runs it is a vertical shaft, which means my little Suffolk can't be used and the plastic covered wibblepoo that came with the mower would have to be done and it's just not very vintage. So, that's that. Now lets talk about the Mini Mini Scamp The main issue I had is it runs go-kart wheels and tyres and no suspension. This meant it was the sketchiest thing i've ever driven in my life, the slightest bump pulled the steering from one way to the other. I had to have a week off the gym as my forarms were genuinely fecked It also right battered my little bottom If you have a decent memory, you may remember at the start of this thread, I have the remains of the quad which gave up it's engine I've done some measuring and I reckon it will work out The MMS is 550mm wide currently, the quad rear axle is 720mm and the front is currently 850mm. I can flip the spindles to get that down to 750mm So, 200mm wider than the MMS currently. That's a good thing though, should make it more stable. It means a massive rework of the chassis, but it's all do-able I'd have big balloon tyres and suspension, plus i'd gain front brakes It will of course be more of a caracature of the real Scamp, but it's a sacrifice i'll make for comfort and safety (It's not fun trying to miss expensive and cool cars) Oh, and it will look a bit like this Your thoughts?
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Aug 30, 2023 23:28:43 GMT
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I like your thinking 😎
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Excellent. Please proceed.
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Aug 31, 2023 10:11:21 GMT
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In case you don't know of it, the Cars and cameras YouTube channel has lots of mini bike and kart builds, might be a source of some ideas. Ttfn Glenn
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Aug 31, 2023 12:40:41 GMT
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In case you don't know of it, the Cars and cameras YouTube channel has lots of mini bike and kart builds, might be a source of some ideas. Ttfn Glenn I think the image posted is from Grind Hard Plumbing Co. - who have been doing this kind of thing for years and have a few good builds on their channel. They also meet up with others who do similarly ridiculous things, so you might be able to find some more content. Always wanted to make a miniature monster truck out of a power wheels!
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LowStandards
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Aug 31, 2023 14:32:26 GMT
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I cut what I needed from the quad chassis I eyed it up against the MMS, damn it will make it huge. Got me some decisions to make now I was hoping to flip these spindle mounts Around like this As it would narrow the front end 100mm, but the bottom one interferes with the arm, so it would have to be the full 850mm width. I could of course fit the kart wheels that are on it already. The front end would be as easy as bolting the kart spindles and hubs on. The rear a little harder as they're setup for 30mm axles and the quad uses a tiny axle and weird bolt on hubs
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LowStandards
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Aug 31, 2023 15:34:11 GMT
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Hold up
Turns out the rear axle bearings on the quad are 30mm, so I can use a kart axle and keep the kart wheels, but have it jacked up and then sticking out.
Also, the front spindles are 17mm, which just so happens to also be kart sized, so my front hubs will just bolt on.
This also means I can get another set of rear wheels for the front, so they'll be the same size.
I think it could be the new plan???
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Aug 31, 2023 18:42:27 GMT
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I have a Mini Bike well actually two one is getting a bigger engine and a side car the other is staying standard, great fun. I bought the pair at Newark Auto Jumble from a bloke who lives around the corner who didn't know about my passion for small bikes. Could have sold them 10 times over on the day
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Aug 31, 2023 20:14:25 GMT
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I’d love to buy a mini bike frame, but they just don’t seem to be a thing over here.
I’m going Stratford autojumble on Sun, see what’s about
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Sept 1, 2023 19:19:54 GMT
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Is that a Super73 frame, or similar? If so, I've got one in my attic. Only problem is I'm in the Netherlands but I'm sure the RR Pony Express could sort it out.
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Sept 2, 2023 15:23:47 GMT
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Last Edit: Sept 2, 2023 15:24:22 GMT by 93fxdl
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LowStandards
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I imagine the Super73 frame is far too big, these things are tiny
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After a lengthy discussion with barstoolracer we have decided to put the MMS into the shed and forget about it for a while. The new plans for it are both lengthy and expensive The plan now is to concentrate on the actual Scamp, get the new engine mounted and hopefully running for the Weekender, though that is a fair push. The Mini bike will be made in any spare time. There's really not much to them, granted, i'm making it a sidecar type, but that shouldn't add much complication
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After a lengthy discussion with barstoolracer we have decided to put the MMS into the shed and forget about it for a while. The new plans for it are both lengthy and expensive The plan now is to concentrate on the actual Scamp, get the new engine mounted and hopefully running for the Weekender, though that is a fair push. The Mini bike will be made in any spare time. There's really not much to them, granted, i'm making it a sidecar type, but that shouldn't add much complication However awesomely fun the MMS is, it would be awesome to see the RMS (regular mini scamp?) again, so I think it’s a good move. Plus you can always ride our AEC Mini-dor if you can withstand how slow it is 😂🤣
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LowStandards
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Walking pace only! Except that open area near the toilets, and that awesome straight by the track
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