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Sept 12, 2022 0:31:49 GMT
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Has any body done a front wheel drive ford 105e using 1.25 fiesta zetec s
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Sept 12, 2022 1:29:40 GMT
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Not sure why you would but it sounds like an interesting exercise in engineering. Please post your progress.
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Sept 12, 2022 7:08:28 GMT
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I remember a FWD 100E in the mid/late 90s. I think it was XR2.
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Sept 12, 2022 7:34:48 GMT
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Has any body done a front wheel drive ford 105e using 1.25 fiesta zetec s Why would you front wheel drive a rear wheel drive car? Rear drive is way more fun |
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Rich
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Sept 12, 2022 10:39:30 GMT
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Has any body done a front wheel drive ford 105e using 1.25 fiesta zetec s Why would you front wheel drive a rear wheel drive car? Rear drive is way more fun Because it makes all the difference in a 105e 😂 |
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Sept 12, 2022 10:55:00 GMT
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I love the fact that you are even considering doing it.
Look forward to seeing what you manage to do.
Guys like you progress our hobby in leaps and bounds, even if it proves to be a crazy task, well done for posting the question.
Why not, indeed.
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Sept 12, 2022 11:53:03 GMT
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There was a 100E that had a full Fiesta front end welded into it then the 100E panels draped over the top.
It would possibly be a lot easier to fit it onto a Reliant 850 or Suzuki SJ gearbox and keep it RWD. Would be a useable bump in power without being enough to need upgrades elsewhere.
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Sept 12, 2022 19:59:33 GMT
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Weren’t there a guy who did more than one Morris minor fwd conversion using full pug diesel front ends?
Yeah it’s a different car but the premise is the same.
I mean it is sort wrong but it’s not like you’re gunna have the ar$e out everywhere in a stock 105e. Even with a pinto in they’re hardly lairy.
One thing I do know is you will have to move the strut tops, the geometry of fwd suspension is generally a lot different to rwd, I looked at going the other way and doing a caddy years back and they were miles out from where they ‘needed’ to be.
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Last Edit: Sept 12, 2022 20:00:47 GMT by Dez
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Sept 12, 2022 22:05:31 GMT
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I'm no opposite lock fiend, but a little part of me could cry! Obviously you can't knock the time and effort (and ingenuity and resourcefulness) but...
...surely it's more work than a pinto/crossflow/zetec and a type 9? Or an MX5 engine and box?
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Sept 13, 2022 4:42:17 GMT
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I looked at going the other way and doing a caddy years back and they were miles out from where they ‘needed’ to be. A vw caddy I suppose? Now that You write this, I remember german company Claer did conversions of vw t4 busses to porsche 993 engines using a lot of parts of the t25 busses. To add something to the OP, consideration of SportKA, StreetKA or Puma would be good, too IMHO, since they are all related and should be close to the 100E sizewise. But like Dez said, including the full suspension body hardware swap. |
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Last Edit: Sept 13, 2022 4:53:17 GMT by braaap
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Sept 13, 2022 6:07:40 GMT
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I went to wheels day many years ago, a guy had a vauxhall victor, with a cvh fwd set up, although strange, i was intrigued, not really a lover of fwd, but it was different, and in the dark corners of my mind (where even i am not allowed) something made me smile....
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Sept 13, 2022 15:25:33 GMT
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I’ve got a ka in bits at the moment so grabbed a couple of measurements to help your pondering (assuming you’ve got a 105e to compare to, but even if you haven’t you might get lucky and find someone else here has)
Strut top centres are 1030mm apart
Gap between the chassis legs is in the region of 900mm
Distance between the line that runs between the strut top centres and the effective front of the engine (with all the ancillaries fitted) is about 450mm
Granted, this is for the 1.6 rocam Ford unit you get in a ka, but that same engine bay will just about take a 1.25 sigma engine too, and it should give you a bit of guidance as to how big a hole you’ll have to dig out of the anglia
Interesting sounding idea though, definitely worth exploring..
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Sept 13, 2022 16:42:03 GMT
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just wrong , each to there own ,but leave it rwd !
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Sept 13, 2022 17:11:18 GMT
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rwd = rear wheel drive = retro wheel drive (minis and the like excluded, obviously)
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Sept 14, 2022 6:13:49 GMT
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Has any body done a front wheel drive ford 105e using 1.25 fiesta zetec s Why would you front wheel drive a rear wheel drive car? Rear drive is way more fun rwd = rear wheel drive = retro wheel drive (minis and the like excluded, obviously) You missed out a few things! Triumph FWDs in addition to the plethora of Fords from the late 70s and 80s  . I wouldn't have said my S1 RS Turbo or Pug 106 weren't fun. The latter was a bit of a sideways machine! |
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Sept 14, 2022 18:56:30 GMT
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Cord was making supercharged front wheel drive cars in the 1930s. I've seen things like Vauxhall Victors converted, I think it was an FB Victor on a complete Vectra floor pan, even had the Vectra dash and seats etc. "I see you did it, and it looks well done, but its not for me" But that applies to a lot of stuff. RWD isn't just about having the  out round every turn, its a very different driving experience and for the most part I prefer it. Says the man with a Mk3 Fiesta as his Avatar. So, I'd be looking if there was a complete floor pan which would fit under it if I were doing it. Which I'm not |
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Sept 17, 2022 9:54:09 GMT
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Has any body done a front wheel drive ford 105e using 1.25 fiesta zetec s It's an interesting idea, although I see very little point in it, and I can't help but wonder, if you're clever enough to do this, then why not make it four wheel drive instead. Also, if you're going to go down the swapping floorpans route isn't that going to put you firmly in the land of it needing a biva? Unless of course you tell nobody what you've done. |
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Sept 17, 2022 15:10:14 GMT
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The fundemental problem with the 105e is the width between the chassis legs is too narrow to get an east west engine in, this is why you would need to basically transplant the front end of a frontwheel drive car into it, somehow making the strucure work etc as well.
As above though easiest option which can virtually be done with off the shelf parts is something like a mx5 rwd, powertrain and it would give you a better driving car in the end.
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Last Edit: Sept 17, 2022 15:11:00 GMT by kevins
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