madmog
Club Retro Rides Member
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Mar 14, 2022 13:09:38 GMT
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Signed for all the good it will do  |
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VIP
South East
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Mar 15, 2022 14:03:48 GMT
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Online petitions LITERALLY don't work.
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Mar 16, 2022 10:51:28 GMT
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Signed - It's not about emissions, TFL is in debt by approx £13bn.
My E34 Touring is LPG so cleaner than any diesel yet not compliant ! My Puma and Transit also not compliant, only my Focus ST170 winter shed is.
It won't stop there, give it a few years and it will be EV only !
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melle
South West
It'll come out in the wash.
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Mar 16, 2022 11:09:37 GMT
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My E34 Touring is LPG so cleaner than any diesel yet not compliant ! My Puma and Transit also not compliant, only my Focus ST170 winter shed is. The criteria are a trade-off, and as such arbitrary by definition. As a result there will always be people who experience them as unjust, but owning four vehicles at least gives you options.  It's easy enough to moan, but does anyone have any good alternative ideas for how we might make our cities cleaner, less congested, and generally nicer places? |
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2022 11:20:14 GMT by melle
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Club RR Member Number: 11
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Mar 16, 2022 11:23:09 GMT
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My E34 Touring is LPG so cleaner than any diesel yet not compliant ! My Puma and Transit also not compliant, only my Focus ST170 winter shed is. The criteria are arbitrary by definition, and there will always people who find them unjust. Owning four vehicles at least gives you options.  It's easy enough to moan, but does anyone have any good alternative ideas for how we might make our cities cleaner, less congested, and generally nicer places? They already have the congestion charge and the ULEZ for the inner boroughs where air pollution is an issue. Whether or not these actually work is a different issue. The issue is the suburbs and greater London boroughs are not part of the city nor are they suffering the same issues. Yes there are pockets of congestion, yes people need to be coerced into not making short silly journeys of less than a mile (especially school runs) but air pollution is not an issue in the same way. |
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Mar 16, 2022 11:34:13 GMT
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VIP
South East
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Mar 16, 2022 14:55:59 GMT
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So write to the media then. Raising awareness is akin to gathering people together to rubberneck a traffic accident. |
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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May 21, 2022 21:15:28 GMT
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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I appreciate it is a p.i.t.a to have to register but anyone with a spare few minutes on your hands it would be gratefully appreciated.
Personally as a Highways Technician for the local council I have spent 15 years making my borough a better place to live and it feels like i'm being forced out by the Mayor so I am grateful for any help to fight this.
Thanks
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skinnylew
Club Retro Rides Member
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Nov 25, 2022 14:35:19 GMT
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Well i'm sure no-one will be shocked to see the Mayor has railroaded this through (despite 60% -70% against it in the suburbs).
So expect a massive influx in the sales sections of retro cars and disgruntled residents living in the London suburbs.
Sad times for those residents who have retro cars they have had for decades, probably going to end being scrapped.
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bilkob
Part of things
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Nov 25, 2022 15:41:43 GMT
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Looks like I’ll be using this as my new daily then. Every cloud and all that………😁  |
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chevy
Part of things
I AM NOT A NUMBER
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Nov 25, 2022 15:51:21 GMT
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I have a question or two…….I moved from near the West End around 40 years ago and now live 82 miles away from Marble Arch and now have two cars registered as Historic which I understand get round the ULEZ charge,a 2001 car which doesn’t comply and a 3 year old car that does.So,
Is entering the ULEZ area controlled by Cameras that record you both entering and leaving or do they just record you entering ?
If the cameras only charge on entering but not leaving then surely once you’re in then it’ll be only one charge unless you leave and return .
Considering that the current boundary’s are the North and South circulars how can it be decided that one side of the road is dirty and the other clean ?
I guess that the Ace will suffer a lack of trade when the boundary’s move into Essex,Kent,Hertfordshire,Middlesex and Surrey ……..curse word.
I will continue to enjoy driving either my 5.7 or 3.5 into London.
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Respect the Past
Influence the Present
Inspire the Future
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