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Oct 27, 2021 21:00:55 GMT
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Yeah the bsa setup is rather like that. Described as ‘adjustable’ but by the time you’ve put it together with the pegs stepped up and made it so you can reach the brake and gears without burning yourself on the exhaust, they basically only fit in one or maybe two positions. What they really mean is they’re just raised up for ground clearance. What we really need are Vincents.
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glenanderson
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Have you got two identical footrests there? They’re actually handed left and right, but will fit either side if you’re happy with the footrest rubber being 90° out on one side.
If you do have two the same then, possibly, we might be able to help each other out as I have two the same here too. It would be typical for us to have four identical ones between us, but you never know. 🤣
I can put a picture together of all the bits you need. If you’re going to run a centre stand then you’ll need the slightly wider competition version too, although modifying a standard one is easy.
Good score on the seat. 👍
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Dez
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Oct 29, 2021 23:32:19 GMT
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Have you got two identical footrests there? They’re actually handed left and right, but will fit either side if you’re happy with the footrest rubber being 90° out on one side. If you do have two the same then, possibly, we might be able to help each other out as I have two the same here too. It would be typical for us to have four identical ones between us, but you never know. 🤣 I can put a picture together of all the bits you need. If you’re going to run a centre stand then you’ll need the slightly wider competition version too, although modifying a standard one is easy. Good score on the seat. 👍 See this is where the information becomes clear as mud. The BSA parts list only uses the parts number for the LH footrest, so it’s actually unclear if you’re meant to have a pair or two left ones. I won’t be running the centre stand (I want an ally bashplate instead, don’t want to have to be replacing casings!) so it’s just the tabs and spacers I need. The spacers I’ll obviously make, and if I can find some good enough to template from I intend to get some plates cut up in stainless so they’re harder and less susceptible to the hole rounding out.
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Dez
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Oct 29, 2021 23:44:20 GMT
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Actually, looking over the parts book and my notes again, it specifically says you do need two left hand footrests, (item 69, part no. 29-7550) which is what I bought. No. 70 I will make from 7/16” hex bar, it’s only really no. 71 I need now but I should be able to dimensions it off the bit I already have. Id also love to get my hands on an unmolested Competition spec brake pedal, but I think that’s wildly optimistic!
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Dez
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Another fairly excessive amount of driving (“near Lincoln” ended up being coningsby, about 100 yards off the runway! So an hour and a half’s drive instead of 45mins) I met a interesting chap who daily drove a rickman ranger and had a 20s Peugeot and Morris tucked away, as well as a pretty cool cafe MZ. I relieved him of this, at a pretty bargainous price. It’s an 18” akront flanged rim built into a d1/d3 hub. The added lightness alludes to its previous life on a racing bantam. I was told tales of the previous owners racing, before handing over the cash and taking it home with me. I was dead pleased with this as it means the rims will match front to rear, and I have more tyre choice in 18” than 19”. An evening messing about swapping all the axle bits over, with lots of referring to the parts diagrams, the wheel was built up and in the frame. It runs nice and true, which was good news. It looks tiny in there, but it’s made up to the same rolling radius with a bigger tyre. More parts to buy though, I’ve got to get the tyre and tube, some chain tugs as they’re missing, and maybe a bigger sprocket to make it more usable off road.
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glenanderson
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A bigger sprocket would probably be a good idea. Are you going to need to delve into the engine or does it still run?
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Dez
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A bigger sprocket would probably be a good idea. Are you going to need to delve into the engine or does it still run? I believe a normal bantam is 47t, a competition factory sprocket is 54t. From what I’ve been reading something in the 60-66t bracket is deemed most favourable. Talon do them off the shelf at reasonable prices though. The engine ran 20 years ago before it was dumped in a shed, indeed it was largely rebuilt. It turns over ok and has good compression, but at the very least it’ll get the fuel system cleaned out and a minor freshen up.
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I think it depends what you want to do with it. The standard competition sprocket would leave top useable enough for 40+ mph potential, so riding it on the road would remain a possibility. A bigger sprocket than that might be worth it if you really wanted to explore its off road potential, but it would drop the top speed to moped levels and, with the standard gearset, probably make first redundant.
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Dez
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I don’t really plan to do much of anything with it tbh. I think I’m more likely to ride it off road than on though, hence me considering dropping the gearing.
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Nov 10, 2021 11:06:26 GMT
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Personally, I think the stock competition sprocket would be low enough, but I can see where you’re coming from.
If the engine has stood unused for that long you might find that the crank seals have gone hard and given up the ghost. Also, the generator side main and the big end are both lubricated by the oil in the petrol, so if it’s stood somewhere damp then they might well be a bit rumbly. Certainly the ones on my D1 engine are, which is what’s spurred me into rebuilding an engine for it. Definitely try and get it going, you’ve got nothing to lose, but if it’s hard to start or rumbly and you decide to pull it apart then they’re simple enough. Gearbox bearings normally last forever unless the cases are left split, and your engine has mains on the primary drive side that are lubricated by the gearbox oil, so they’ll probably be fine. The only thing you should change as a precaution if you split the cases (unless you know for sure how long it’s been in there) is the gear change return spring.
I finally got fed up with looking at the disassembled engine on my workbench yesterday and started putting it back together. I’ll update my Bantam thread accordingly later.
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Nov 20, 2021 12:45:23 GMT
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I see you’ve come to the attention of the “ooo, that’s not original” brigade on Facebook. 🤣🤣
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Dez
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Nov 20, 2021 12:50:59 GMT
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I see you’ve come to the attention of the “ooo, that’s not original” brigade on Facebook. 🤣🤣 Oh yes. Thing is it most definitely is, and I can prove it various ways! I can’t believe their naivety at not realising pretty much all competition models ended up modified at one point, or blindly saying ‘well it’s not the same as the catalogue picture’. Well neither were most competitions as supplied, cos most were bought without lighting!
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Nov 20, 2021 13:02:23 GMT
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When I’m in the right kind of mood I can get a bit of amusement out of baiting them. Most of the time though, they get short shrift. There’s lots of stuff I don’t know, about all manner of things, and I don’t even know everything about Bantams. I certainly know about my one though, and the fact that absolutely everything on it, standard or non standard, can be explained by the person that changed it. Me. There’s some advantages to owning something more than forty years. 🤣🤣
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Dez
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Nov 20, 2021 19:08:59 GMT
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That’s the thing, half the ‘wrong’ bits I did myself 20 years ago when I couldn’t get the right parts.
But the internet experts don’t know that…
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Nov 20, 2021 20:03:20 GMT
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I had some tuning work done by a chap named Gerry Pell based in Hackleton , Northants ,on an X7 I had many moons ago. He apparently had the fastest Bantam in the country at one stage. He was a two stroke genius, must be close to 80 now if he's still about.
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Last Edit: Nov 20, 2021 20:06:10 GMT by duggers
Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Nov 28, 2021 22:01:01 GMT
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Finally got some bloody tyres. This is the third set i ‘bought’ after getting ghosted by the first seller after agreeing to buy them, then the second seller ‘finding some damage on them’ when I won them for very cheap 🙄 Tbh it’s no bad thing (other than a delay getting it rolling again) as this set are better than the other two, they basically as new. I didn’t want to buy new as even the cheapy brands are about £140 for a pair. A premium brand like this are about £200, which is more than the bike really warrants at this stage. They’re Michelin trial competition X11, which are basically the best traditional looking (I.e. classic block tread pattern) trials tyres you can get. They cost my £71 which I thought was reasonable given the condition. Of course Hermes totally F-ked up the delivery, claiming they ‘couldn’t find the address’ and both me and the seller where worried they’d gone missing, before they turned up 3 days late with no explanation. Standard Hermes service really… But here they are- Perfect condition, no wear to speak of at all. Even the sidewall lettering isn’t too modern in design. Id bought some new tubes in preparation, so I wrestled the rear one on with only 1 tyre lever and a lot of swearing. So much so I’ve not done the front one yet 😂 Need to find my other levers before I give that a go. Now one thing I need to mention is the sizing. I’d gone down to an 18” rear wheel as previously mentioned, the prime reason for this is the ‘standard’ combination of tyres for trials bikes for the best part of 30 years is a 18” rear rim and a 21” front. If you’re buying imperial sizes it’s usually a 4.00-18 out back and a 2.75-21 up front. Which is exactly what I have. The rear tyres ends up the same rolling radius as a 3.50-19, so gearing and speedo wise it’s all pretty good. You end up with some extra girth and more tyre squish though, which is directly translatable to grip. Only slight issue aside with that is the rear mudguard and bracketry are a bit tight for such a tyre. But, it looks dead cool and making up some new stays/tweaking the guard to shape a bit isn’t that hard. Really sorts the look of the bike having the fat tyre and matching alloy rim out back though, it’s an even cooler looking thing now. Another thing ticked off, Best buy some more parts…
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Nov 29, 2021 14:39:06 GMT
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that is indeed very cool
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Nov 29, 2021 18:21:43 GMT
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Awesome!
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1968 Mini MkII, 1968 VW T1, 1967 VW T1, 1974 VW T1, 1974 VW T1 1303, 1975 Mini 1000 auto, 1979 Chevette, 1981 Cortina, 1978 Mini 1000 1981 Mini City, 1981 Mini van, 1974 Mini Clubman, 1982 Metro City, 1987 Escort, 1989 Lancia Y10, 1989 Cavalier, 1990 Sierra, 1990 Renault 19, 1993 Nova, 1990 Citroen BX, 1994 Ford Scorpio, 1990 Renault Clio, 2004 Citroen C3, 2006 Citroen C2, 2004 Citroen C4, 2013 Citroen DS5. 2017 DS3 130 Plenty of other scrappers!
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glenanderson
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Jan 21, 2022 22:34:25 GMT
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Did you get my message about your Todd head?
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Dez
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Jan 21, 2022 22:37:42 GMT
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Did you get my message about your Todd head? Nothing since you said you thought it might be a pukka trials one when it first turned up? I was leaving it with you to decide if it was or not, but saw you were busy with your own stuff so was leaving you to it 🙂
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