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Sept 21, 2021 13:32:59 GMT
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It seems that other than an air fed mask, I have accidently set up everything I need to paint 2k.
That made me think about getting a mask, not for any job now, but so I have it if I want to paint anything (No cars, just motorbikes etc).
There doesn't seem to be alot of choice though.
It also seems they discontinue them at will and then stop supplying filters.
I don't have a carbon filter, I was going to rely on the one in the mask, but if I only use it a couple of times a year, and whatever I've got has been discontinued, ill need a new mask!
I could get a carbon 3rd stage instead and not worry about a belt filter, but they discontinue those things as well!
So, basically, any recomendations?
I see alot of cheap devilbiss mpg but you can't buy filters. I see new wilson/honeywell, same as the devilbiss, but can't find filters for those either.
3m's offering is £1000 or something stupid.
The new devilbiss is about £400? But if they stop selling filters that £400 may only get 2 hours use!
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Sept 21, 2021 13:34:36 GMT
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Comlressor has a first stage filter and a 0.01 micron coalescing filter, so it's just the carbon aspect I'm missing.
Need to find something with replacement filter back up!
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Sept 21, 2021 14:11:26 GMT
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Hi, If the compressor is drawing air from outside the spraying area does it need the carbon filter?  Colin |
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Sept 21, 2021 14:17:11 GMT
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Hi, If the compressor is drawing air from outside the spraying area does it need the carbon filter? Colin It's more about filtering out what the compressor adds I think. |
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Sept 21, 2021 14:19:57 GMT
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Had another thought though, any reason not to get either a cheap air mask without a filter, or a used, discontinued good air fed mask.
Then, rather than worrying about having a carbon filter in the air supply, supply the mask from the coalescing filter and wear a normal half face respirator, with carbon filters, inside the air fed mask?
That way I can always use the same air respirator and just replace the half face mask (or its inserts).
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Sept 21, 2021 16:20:21 GMT
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I used a old hot tub air pump well outside of the garage blowing fresh air into 1" pipe which is then connected to a mask, no filters or breathing manky water out the bottom of the compressor to worry about.
You could also use cheap air bed pumps (works OK but they don't last for long) or secondary air pumps (robust but need a decent 12V power supply). or probably even a modified old vacuum cleaner.
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Sept 21, 2021 16:40:15 GMT
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I used a old hot tub air pump well outside of the garage blowing fresh air into 1" pipe which is then connected to a mask, no filters or breathing manky water out the bottom of the compressor to worry about. You could also use cheap air bed pumps (works OK but they don't last for long) or secondary air pumps (robust but need a decent 12V power supply). or probably even a modified old vacuum cleaner. All worth considering, but I have the compressor capability. I also would still need the mask. A set up like you suggest removes the need for a carbon filter though. That does solve the issue of carbon filter obsolescence. |
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Sept 21, 2021 17:18:50 GMT
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Silly thought, can you buy several filters when buying the mask and keep them in stock? Or do they have expiry dates/ are rediculously expensive to stop you doing that?
As you can probably tell I don't know anything about these!
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Sept 21, 2021 18:01:31 GMT
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Silly thought, can you buy several filters when buying the mask and keep them in stock? Or do they have expiry dates/ are rediculously expensive to stop you doing that? As you can probably tell I don't know anything about these! I think they have expiry dates as well as length of use dates, but I'm not 100% sure on that. No one wants to give you that info! I have found that you can get filters for iwata, sata and honeywell though, and I think the honeywell filters are the same as the old devilbiss. Honeywell masks seem to come up cheap quite often too. |
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slater
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Air fed masksslater
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Sept 22, 2021 6:52:18 GMT
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What you want is the proper sandblasting style filter pots. Cost you about 100quid on ebay and you will always be able to get filters for them. Then just buy a basic mask. The only other bits you might need to replace are the plastic visor 'tear offs' but if you get a simple one you van just use some clear acetate for that.
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Sept 22, 2021 7:58:49 GMT
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What you want is the proper sandblasting style filter pots. Cost you about 100quid on ebay and you will always be able to get filters for them. Then just buy a basic mask. The only other bits you might need to replace are the plastic visor 'tear offs' but if you get a simple one you van just use some clear acetate for that. I found an old post where you recommended those too, ill look them up. Thanks. |
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