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So I managed to get all the springs and dampers mounted to the Landy before the trip, it’s raised the ride height by about an inch. I had a 3hour drive to strata Florida so we set off Friday night and stayed in a b&b for the night. It’s my first time in wales green laning and it’s the longest journey I’ve done in the landy, it performed faultlessly and handled great on and off road with the new suspension set up I’m well impressed. We meet up on the Saturday with a few people off of Instagram, the convoy consisted of a Suzuki jimny, discovery 2, Jeep Wrangler and the 90. Jack’s jimny lead the way, was really impressed with how the jimny handled everything, it simply skipped over all of the terrain.
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1988 Landrover Ninety 2009 Fiat Panda 100hp
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1988 Landrover Ninety 2009 Fiat Panda 100hp
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I’ve finally fitted all of the bits (sumo bars + damper) I bought last year to the Landy, the on and off road handling have improved massively money well spent. I’ve also got a track rod guard from Gwyn Lewis, nice but if kit that weighs a fair amount, the only down side was my diff guard wouldn’t fit to the new guard so I’ve had to buy a new one and modify it. I was due to compete in a rtv trail this Sunday coming but I’ve had a slight set back. While driving the cabin filled with smoke, managed to pull over rip the battery out, pull most of the dash out and was just about to soak under the remaining dash panel with the fire extinguisher the smoke stopped. After leaving it for 10mins I started it back up and managed to drive home with no other issues. Once home I set about removing the rest of the dash. I’ve found the issue it’s a white cable leading to the engine bay (the crimped wires were originally heatshrinked together. Where the loom enters the bulkhead it looks like 4-5 wires have fused together. I think I’m going to disconnect the loom in the engine and fed it into the cabin, then try to repair it. Failing that I’ll have to get a second hand loom or a new one (£600 gulp). if any one has any suggestions or knows what these cables feed I’m all ears and I’d appreciate the help, don’t really like doing car electrics it’s all witchcraft in my mind lol. Once I’ve sorted this I’m hoping to jet wash underneath and treat the chassis with lanoguard, then hopefully compete in some more rtv trials and do some greenlaning and pay & plays over the summer Thanks for looking, Josh
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Last Edit: Mar 27, 2022 8:59:04 GMT by JoshB68: Photo of the burnt wire
1988 Landrover Ninety 2009 Fiat Panda 100hp
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Mar 27, 2022 19:53:31 GMT
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On british cars White wires usually are ones from the ignition switch which become live when the ignition is on, my advice would be to strip all the outer wrapping off the loom so you can be sure there is no more damage then splice new lengths of cable in the right colour and gauge in to replace the damaged areas.
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Mar 27, 2022 20:40:35 GMT
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On british cars White wires usually are ones from the ignition switch which become live when the ignition is on, my advice would be to strip all the outer wrapping off the loom so you can be sure there is no more damage then splice new lengths of cable in the right colour and gauge in to replace the damaged areas. Thanks Kevins that’s good to know and yeah think that’s going to be the plan not looking forward to it.
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So I’ve been looking into why the Ninety recently tried to impersonate a smoke machine and I think I’ve found the possible culprit. so I stripped the loom tape off and traced the wire back to… nothing, the wire had melted/ snapped. so I carried on looking around and eventually found the other half in this connector block The blue crimped spade connector goes to an electric fan I had installed by a local Landrover “specialist”. The fan quite frankly is curse word and worked for a few months then became rather sporadic on when it wanted to work. If any of you at this point can guess how the wire melted, I’ll quite honestly be amazed and slightly in awe of electrical wizardry. That’s one of the wires to the electric fan that’s welded itself to the throttle cable (it’s worth pointing out that a few minutes before the smoke started my throttle cable was sticking) Now that I’ve found the problem my plan is to remove the fan set up, tidy/inspect the wiring and then re wrap it. Just a quick question. Should I replace the white cable from the dash to that connector or is it some sort of additional/extra wire that’s not needed? I might also apply some dynamat-esqe sound proofing material and closed cell foam to the bulkhead when reassembling the dash and I need to try and find a new wiper motor cover as mines got a serious case of tin worm. Thanks for looking.
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If the white wire only went to that terminal then it must have been a redundant circuit for something that wasn't fitted to your car so there would be no need to replace it.
Amazing a supposed pro wired a fan in with no fuse!
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Apr 12, 2022 23:40:00 GMT
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Id seriously recommend a trip to Strata Florida if you have a 4x4 before it gets shut next year. I saw this article and wondered if your statement about closure of Strata Florida might be linked? Seems like there may be more to this than meets the eye...
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Last Edit: Apr 13, 2022 19:31:10 GMT by wildrover
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Apr 13, 2022 17:49:39 GMT
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Id seriously recommend a trip to Strata Florida if you have a 4x4 before it gets shut next year. I saw this article and wondered if your statement about closure of Strata Florida might be linked? Seems like there may be more to this that meets the eye... Good find mate, just checked on trail wise and it’s open, that’ll teach me for believing everything I’m told.
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Apr 13, 2022 19:23:51 GMT
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We've all fallen for something like this at some point in our lives. Hope you are able to get back on the lane soon enough.
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So since my last post I repaired the loom, took the Landy for a drive and 2 miles before I got home it started to stutter and cutout, just about managed to get it home. It stopped working all together and would just crank but not turn over, no smoke coming out the exhaust so I thought it was a fuelling issue. I noticed the fuel line from the lift pump and filter were empty so tried to prime it with the lift pump, couldn’t prime despite rotating the engine to try and engage the lift pump. Purchased a Delphi lift pump put it in and could now prime the engine but still wouldn’t turn over after much investigation I found out the connection on the fuel stop solenoid had corded away, reconnected and she fired straight back into life. I’ve been trying to make the Landrover a bit quieter by putting sound deadening mats and closed cell foam everywhere. it’s not complete and I’m going to finish it with 4 way stretch carpet. It’s made a bit of a difference but it might be just a placebo. I think it will be a lot quieter when I get new doors and sound proof them. With the recent decent weather I’ve undersealed the Landrover again. I’ve always used dinitrol 4941 and I think it’s done a good job of protecting underneath. This year I’ve decided to try lanoguard on top of the dinitrol. Its still wet in the photos, goes on easy enough but the filter in the spray gun you get given gets blocked every 2 mins so was a bit annoying while applying it. I used 2 litres in total and 6 cans of dinitrol, a lot of people complain that lanoguard stinks but me and the gf actually quite like the smell. I’ll try and get a some better photos when it’s cured in a day or 2. I put some photos on the 1st page of when i originally undersealed the landy about 3-4 years ago and don’t think much has changed so I must be doing something right. Thanks for looking.
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merryck
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1988 Land Rover Ninetymerryck
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Jun 23, 2022 12:26:31 GMT
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A big help in terms of noise would be filling in any of the numerous holes in the bulkhead that aren't used and replacing any rotten/perished grommets. Also making sure the panels under the seats are soundproofed is often forgotten. Something I've bought for mine, but not yet fitted is the modern front door lower seal. I'm hoping this will help with the road noise as I've never been able to get my doors to seal very well. Did you notice much of a difference with the bonnet soundproofing? I've not done mine yet as I wasn't too sure if it'd be worth it, and it's a pretty costly thing to do for (potentially) little gain.
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Jun 23, 2022 16:20:32 GMT
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A big help in terms of noise would be filling in any of the numerous holes in the bulkhead that aren't used and replacing any rotten/perished grommets. Also making sure the panels under the seats are soundproofed is often forgotten. Something I've bought for mine, but not yet fitted is the modern front door lower seal. I'm hoping this will help with the road noise as I've never been able to get my doors to seal very well. Did you notice much of a difference with the bonnet soundproofing? I've not done mine yet as I wasn't too sure if it'd be worth it, and it's a pretty costly thing to do for (potentially) little gain. The gearbox top foam pad (goes under the gaitor/cover) is another thing that goes missing and let’s a load of road noise in worth checking it’s still there. Thanks for the link to them bottom seals I’ll order some of them for when I get some new doors👍 With regards to the bonnet I’d say there’s a slight difference, maybe a placebo, think the extra weight on the bonnet, reduces it rattling around maybe. I’ve got a load of this deadening mats sat around to use up. I’d say the pre cut bonnet kits you can get for around £50-90 aren’t worth the price. You can pick up a pack of sound deadening for £40ish and do the bonnet and front cab with that. I think fitting a silencer to the straight though exhaust would make the biggest change But I’d miss the noise.
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