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Cv boot cable ties ballbagbagins
@ballbagbagins
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Jul 13, 2021 21:27:34 GMT
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Hi, can i use plastic cable ties to secure the outer boot to the outer cv joint?
The proper metal clip thing has slid off and I don't have a new one or the correct tool to attach to the joint.
Or a metal cable tie?
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mfrv1
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Jul 13, 2021 21:52:24 GMT
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Should be fine.
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Rich
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Cv boot cable ties Rich
@foxmcintyre
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Cable ties are fine. Use the really bigguns. Secure is secure.
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I tried that when I couldn't properly close the clip that came with it. On mine there isn't enough room around the edge of the "big" end for the cable tie - one rotation and it broke off. I use a pair of pincers to close the clips, or a blunt cold chisel against a big screwdriver propped up on the ground.
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ChasR
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Cv boot cable ties ChasR
@chasr
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Zip ties are 50-50 IME, even if the surfaces are clean. They are fine on inners but very touch and go on the outers where the boots go through alot of movement. Upon testing on the ramp, I've seen a few come off and have bought cars with the boot off and the mess of CV grease everywhere. I have a zip tie gun which could improve that situation as you can really tension the zip ties. For the little CV joint clips cost, and the fact that they are proven to work, I'd just get the clips TBH. I use pliers for removing similar clips to tighten them. It's worked well for me  . |
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Cv boot cable ties ballbagbagins
@ballbagbagins
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Good points Chas and seen as though I'm already dealing with cv sprayed over the back of the hub I've just spent 8.99 on some clips and pliers.
The kids will go hungry tonight.
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bricol
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Jul 15, 2021 14:16:17 GMT
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Always worked fine for me - although I learnt early on to chamfer the edge of the block on the end to clear the integrale's ABS sensor cans - one wore a hole in a front sensor and water ingress caused some interesting effects - like the ABS pump fighting you when you want to push the pedal down and slow down!
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Paul Y
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Jul 15, 2021 15:28:31 GMT
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Just went through the same 'challenge' with balljoint dust boots. Ended up using this.    Can see it getting a lot of use. P.  |
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Cv boot cable ties ballbagbagins
@ballbagbagins
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Jul 15, 2021 17:48:17 GMT
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Just went through the same 'challenge' with balljoint dust boots. Ended up using this. Can see it getting a lot of use. P. How does that tool work? |
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Paul Y
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Jul 15, 2021 18:09:00 GMT
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Just went through the same 'challenge' with balljoint dust boots. Ended up using this. Can see it getting a lot of use. P. How does that tool work? It is a safety wire tool used to positively 'lock' bolt in place by securing them to a neighbouring bolt in such a way as the bolt unwinds itself it works against the wire tension holding it tight. Easy to use. Clamp the wire in the jaws. Pull the silver knob which is on a spiral and spins the pliers, tightening the stainless wire. Best video I have seen is this one. Whilst not designed for holding boots on etc I used them in my apprenticeship to keep rack and pinion boots in place and then the drive shaft - cv- boots - on Fiestas and early Escorts. Plus. Race car. P. |
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Last Edit: Jul 15, 2021 18:09:35 GMT by Paul Y
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Paul Y
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Jul 15, 2021 19:53:19 GMT
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Picture below is from one of my earlier attempts to see if I could make it work without pre twisting the wire - think it might help explain.  As you twist the wire it sort of ties itself off, the twisting action holding it tight - when it is tight cut the 'tail' off and turn it back on itself avoiding pushing it into the boot... et voila! Not specifically designed for this particular job but it works and, as above, was standard practice at the Ford dealership I did my apprenticeship in. Plus. Race car. P. |
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Paul Y
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Jul 15, 2021 20:25:13 GMT
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Not a problem Sir! P. |
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Dez
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@dez
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Jul 16, 2021 11:44:28 GMT
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I came here to say get some lock wire pliers, but I see Paul Y has beaten me to it 😀 They’re the answer to so many problems you never knew you had, and you’ll find yourself using them loads once you actually have some. They are undoubtedly the best solution for CV boots though, especially using the ‘double twist’ method like Paul has. You can also keep adding strands or doubling over and pre twisting many times over to make a stronger thicker wire for more heavy duty purposes. |
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Last Edit: Jul 16, 2021 11:59:53 GMT by Dez
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