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Apr 26, 2022 12:48:40 GMT
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I know it's not what you want to hear, but I'd take the box out again, take it back to the box people & get them to A) check it over B) weld in a drain plug in the sump. I will fix most things but gearboxes are best left to the specialists. If you have no drive it means there is no fluid pressure in the box. This could be you have missed something in the valve body when you dropped it out (missing check ball) or the convertor is not fitted on the pump properly. Unfortunately I think you are right. It's not a job I want to do, it's not the best location for removing a box. If it is a convertors not on the pump properly,I worried I'll end up in the exact same situation. Because I believe I fitted it correctly this time, so not 100% I wouldn't make the same mistake again
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Apr 26, 2022 12:48:54 GMT
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Yeah after going through the hopeful/wishful thinking easy list of checks, it may well be time to do as Mr Black Pop Racing has suggested.
Any way of getting the whole car to them, so they can test the box, refit, test?
They may not have the facilities to be able to do it, but worth an ask if you have the means.
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Apr 26, 2022 12:58:35 GMT
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Yeah after going through the hopeful/wishful thinking easy list of checks, it may well be time to do as Mr Black Pop Racing has suggested. Any way of getting the whole car to them, so they can test the box, refit, test? They may not have the facilities to be able to do it, but worth an ask if you have the means. That is another thought I've had, but to a more local garage (with the knowledge for the job) Get it dropped off at a garage and then once done, drive home. The mind is willing, the wallet less so. And as always, that's the rub:/
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Last Edit: Apr 26, 2022 13:16:22 GMT by Ebejeebies
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Apr 30, 2022 18:40:06 GMT
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She was that close to being sold, she was advertised and everything. Upon being faced with a real offer and potential real buyer. I realized I can't let her go like this, for the reasons I am. So she's staying and will be getting fixed (how yet I'm not so sure on). On a totally unrelated note, anyone wanting to buy a kidney?
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Apr 30, 2022 18:54:28 GMT
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A small but important job done during the week. Remember the leaky freeze plug? Well I couldn't in good conscience list the car for sale with a know bodge repair on it (was still thinking of selling at that time) So a nice new shiny one was ordered And it was a huge improvement over the old one... Bit of a Flaff getting it out, because of course it was on the busy side of the engine. the one that mirrors it on the other side literally has nothing blocking access. But will some gentle persuasion it popped out. Put some sealant on the fresh one and popped it back in. Now if only the gearbox was this easy to sort...
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Ah man that was a roller coaster! Glad you kept hold of it, will be a lot of fun when sorted!
If it makes you feel any better my gearbox gave up yesterday on a nice sunny bank holiday drive with the mrs and dog in the car!
Parked back in the workshop now ready to take a look at next week...
Friday the 13th is a big road trip to Pendine, so need to sort it quick! These things come to test us!
Have you managed to throw it up in the air again yet to see if you can get the wheels to spin and in what gear?
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Ah man that was a roller coaster! Glad you kept hold of it, will be a lot of fun when sorted! If it makes you feel any better my gearbox gave up yesterday on a nice sunny bank holiday drive with the mrs and dog in the car! Parked back in the workshop now ready to take a look at next week... Friday the 13th is a big road trip to Pendine, so need to sort it quick! These things come to test us! Have you managed to throw it up in the air again yet to see if you can get the wheels to spin and in what gear? Yeah, it's the list of things I wanted to do with the wife, the memories I want to create, that won over in the end. (Picnics, drive in movies, that kinda stuff) That's not good at all. Any ideas what the gearbox issue might be? (on yours, not mine haha) Not had a chance to throw the rear end back up yet. I when I get the chance I plan to leave it idling for a good while (30+ mins) with every extremity crossed in hopes that fixes it.
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Out in the pouring rain, jacking up the car, connecting the gear selector, persuading the start motor to do it's job. Getting her up to temp and letting her idle for a bit.
Left for 10-15 mins and can you guess what happened?
I got reverse gear. Didn't have that the other week. Flicked through the other gears and they were all also reverse.
Hmmmm that's odd.
Let it idle some more, reverse was reverse and drive would sometimes be drive.
I wonder if it needs some more fluid.
Checked it, was on the low side. Topped it up and rechecked.
Bit of a Delay but I got all the gears eventually. Low, drive, 2nd and reverse, even parked works.
Genuinely not expecting that. By this point I was very excited.
Turned the car off, took her of the ramps, sorted out the last couple of bits.
Went to start her for the maiden voyage and the starter motor went nah.
Sounds like the solenoid is pushing the gear out, but not attempting to spin.
Sooooooooo close to driving but yet soooo far.
However I'm ecstatic the gearbox seems to be working. A dodgy starter motor is barely an issue, it's just a touch annoying with the timing and the fact my spare one also doesnt work (I bench tested it)
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Absolutely epic news chap!
Once running again, I would cycle through the gears a few times once up to temp, check fluid again, do a few forwards/backwards runs, check again then head out for a drive.
I guess if you couldn't get it to cycle through the gears properly before, it perhaps struggled to move all the fluid around properly.
Absolutely chuffed for you mate!
Swapped out the modulator on mine, topped fluid up and it seems to be back to it's half broken self again, so that'll do for the road trip in two weeks haha
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The replacement parts arrive yesterday (4 days from America, which is nuts) Fitted the solenoid this morning as it's a quick 5 minute Job. Wasn't expecting it to fix anything, just wanted to do it whilst I had a chance. Jumped in after fitting it and turned the key, truly not expecting anything to happen. And she happily cranked and then started. Tried it a few more time to check it wasn't a fluke and she cranked every time. Quick look at my insurance and turns out it ends this evening. So I thought screw it, Now or never. Started her and drove of. Good news is she moved, she's didn't feel happy, not changing up gear. So I pulled in at a local hotel that's just down the road To turn around. Drive back she was even more unhappy, wouldn't pick up speed and needed nursing home. Manage to pull into my carpark area, started to mavourneen to park up and she wouldn't go into reverse. She stopped working here Her parking spot is right beside the Audi. There is a slight incline. She it's a heavy old beast for sure but I just about managed to push her back. The cause of my issue I'm gunna to say is running low on atf fluid. As she left some nice puddles whilst pushing her in to her bay Popping underneath and saw it dripping quite enthusiastically from the pan gasket. I tried retightening the bolts, it reduced it but didn't stop it. So I've purchased another gasket and a fresh pan as well. With a bung this time. I'm just gunna drill a hole in the old pan to drain it. Overall it say it's a minor success
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I'd chalk that up as a win mate! So close now!
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I'd chalk that up as a win mate! So close now! It was almost a win for sure Set about this afternoon changing the sump Firstly i had to protect my drill. Which led to this I'd left a catch can under the leak once I parked it up Friday. Picked it up today and it had a good 1/2 Litre in it (was to the top of my thumb) The offending issues Was alot easier to drain this time around tho And not a drop on the drill, I will call that a win. The wind was still being a pain though Fitted the new one with no issues, double and triple checked the bolts. So shiny its reflecting the mess beneath it Once I did all that, refilled it with fluid, got it all up to temp. Stuck it in drive and drove forward. Stuck it in reverse and didn't move. Have I mentioned how much I hate automatic's? And just to add a touch of salt to the wound, was at a friend's wedding the day before and one of his friends showed up in this beauty. And if you are curious to why it runs salt in the wound, It's the exact same location where I took this pic the day before the wedding, he was parked approximately where the blue squiggle is
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May 28, 2022 19:30:12 GMT
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The gearbox is faulty and the engine isn't happy, so naturally now is the perfect time to mess around with the radio After a bit of investigation I figured out it's held in by a couple of hidden screws and the two nuts on the radio knobs Very cool looking internals, no idea how any of it works and not even gunna try and fix it. Not entirely sure what frequencies it would pick up. But there's a good bit of space inside the housing with all the gubbins removed Enough room to fit the cheapy retro style stero I already had "installed" in the car It has to be this style radio as I plan of using the original knobs to work it, so it will be completed hidden That idea has lead me to this Just to add to the challenge, the knobs aren't In line. The original ones are higher and further apart than the ones on the new stereo. I needed some sort of UJs but on a smaller scale. And then I had a brain wave. I love it when my hobbies cross over. I borrowed this from a couple of my Lego models I've have, do to some mock ups The basic principles would work nicely, but I need to take the slack out of the UJs as the one of the knobs both need to be pushed and twisted to use all it's functions I've designed some housing on the pc that stops the slack in the UJs that I'm in the process to printing off
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The gearbox is faulty and the engine isn't happy, so naturally now is the perfect time to mess around with the radio After a bit of investigation I figured out it's held in by a couple of hidden screws and the two nuts on the radio knobs …. The basic principles would work nicely, but I need to take the slack out of the UJs as the one of the knobs both need to be pushed and twisted to use all it's functions I've designed some housing on the pc that stops the slack in the UJs that I'm in the process to printing off It will be interesting to see how your 3D printed mechanism stands up to the rigours of daily use,
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Last Edit: May 29, 2022 8:44:22 GMT by Rich
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May 29, 2022 10:08:28 GMT
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Ah this is gonna be cool!
I really want to do something funky with my old stereo, was thinking on trying to retrofit a Bluetooth receiver or something simple in it and still be able to use the knobs to turn it on and control volume, but it's a rare moment when my brain has the capacity to figure out how to do something like that haha
The addition of Lego is brilliant, I support this project fully!
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May 29, 2022 10:32:11 GMT
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She's no daily that's for sure, but I can't see them being an issue
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Last Edit: May 29, 2022 17:11:36 GMT by Rich
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May 29, 2022 10:35:45 GMT
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Ah this is gonna be cool! I really want to do something funky with my old stereo, was thinking on trying to retrofit a Bluetooth receiver or something simple in it and still be able to use the knobs to turn it on and control volume, but it's a rare moment when my brain has the capacity to figure out how to do something like that haha The addition of Lego is brilliant, I support this project fully! Thanks, I had a similar idea with Bluetooth received wired into the knobs to adjust the volume but I was struggling to find the kind of receiver. I thought I found something one Amazon but it was utter rubbish
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May 29, 2022 10:59:34 GMT
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With the gearbox, is there anyway to get a pressure gauge on it to see what pressures are being generated?
As its problematic in all gears it sounds like a loss of pressure somewhere, I saw one once where the valve body had been taken off and a small piece of metal was left sticking down which was holding the valve body off ever so slightly. This caused no drive in any gear.
Autoboxes of this age are fairly straightforwards, i'm by no means an expert but if you have or can get a manual for it then its worth checking the hydraulic diagram to see where pressure could be lost. don't give up on it:-)
On another note, if the engine is not happy and the gearbox is causing problems this does sound like the ideal time to fix the radio, at least you will have something to listen to if it breaks down!
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May 29, 2022 14:15:43 GMT
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With the gearbox, is there anyway to get a pressure gauge on it to see what pressures are being generated? As its problematic in all gears it sounds like a loss of pressure somewhere, I saw one once where the valve body had been taken off and a small piece of metal was left sticking down which was holding the valve body off ever so slightly. This caused no drive in any gear. Autoboxes of this age are fairly straightforwards, i'm by no means an expert but if you have or can get a manual for it then its worth checking the hydraulic diagram to see where pressure could be lost. don't give up on it:-) On another note, if the engine is not happy and the gearbox is causing problems this does sound like the ideal time to fix the radio, at least you will have something to listen to if it breaks down! I don't have any sort of pressure gauge that I can hook up. I no there is some pressure there as when I disconnected the cooler line, to check it's fired out and made one hell of a mess. Current plan is to get the radio working, get the motor running happy again and if the gearbox Hasn't magically fixed itself (you never no) Just sit on the car park when the engine running and the radio blast and pretend I'm on the open road haha
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May 29, 2022 14:24:15 GMT
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People smarter than I could probably do the maths to work out the angles and distances required for lengths and angles of the U-joints. I am not that smart, so I've been going the trail and error method and so far have gotten this; It's not perfect and I need it tweak some measurements but I'm getting close These are the component I've designed and printed so far. The cage for the UJs need to be altered a bit but they prove the concept.
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