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Well, well well - look what I only bloody gone and done now:  I have rather annoyingly (for my wife at least) stumbled across one of only four or five Cavaliers which were imported to Australia over the years. The Cav was never sold here in any guise, with GM instead relying on it's somewhat facially-challenged sister the Holden Camira to carry the J-Car torch Down Under. The mk3 was sold in NZ under the Holden Vectra badge but the mk2 is a bit of a rarity round these parts. Having just welcomed our second child into the world and therefore having a wife on maternity leave and what seems like a million disposable nappies to pay for I really couldn't afford another car (especially one needing work), nor did I have space for one. Buuuuut, my first car back in 1997 was a white 1985 mk2 Astra and I'd just turned 40 when I saw the ad for the car on Gumtree so I was very much ripe for a full-blown 'let's try to recreate my youth' mid-life crisis. I went to see the car, wisely turned it down because it needed a fair bit of cosmetic work put into it, slept on it, changed my mind, went to see it again and happily parted ways with arguably more money than the car was worth (even somehow offering the seller an extra $250 after a price had been agreed because he seemed genuinely sad to be parting ways with it - I'm still very English like that).  I know from the service history that it started life as a fleet car for York Borg-Warner in Basildon, having been supplied by A.W. Watkin Ltd in Biggleswade under reg number B41 AEW. It was then imported to Queensland around 1988 before moving down to Adelaide at some point in the 2010s. It has annoyingly been stripped of some of its Vauxhall trim in favour of Opel equivalents - namely the front grill, the alloy wheels and the steering wheel. I think one its Oz-based owners hailed from mainland Europe so was probably having his own Opel Ascona themed youth recreation crisis at the time.  The interior is in OK condition considering its 36 year international jet-setting lifespan - the original Recaros have been re-trimmed in half leather at some point since it emigrated, although they're in desperate need of some leather feed as they are a little on the cardboardy side at the moment. The dash sports several big cracks thanks to the Aussie sun, and a few other bits of plastic trim have disintegrated in the heat. Nothing that can't be sourced second hand or, in the case of the dash, repaired - although probably at great cost.  The bodywork is pretty good, especially for a Vauxhall of this vintage - the sills, arches, underside, suspension mounts, windscreen surround etc are all very solid and original. There is a small bit of perforating rust right at the bottom of one of the rear arches, some bubbling at the bottom of the tailgate glass and a small hole around the tailgate lip near one of the hinges. The lower rear valance below the bumper looks to have been dented in the past and poorly filled, and I suspect the O/S/R door. has seen a skim too. In an ideal world both panels would be replaced with new ones but given the logistics of getting them out here I'm pretty sure a body shop should be able to repair what's there. It also appears that some bulkhead cracking around the driver's side PAS mount has been repaired during the car's lifetime - it's a common problem for PAS-equipped J Cars so it's good that it's already been done. The accelerator pedal assembly is a bit loose so I suspect it was disturbed during this work and needs to be addressed. The paintwork is pretty rough and has not fared well in the Aussie sun. It looks like the roof has already been resprayed at some point (a common paint-fading area in this part of the world) and the new coat has reacted with the old and crazed badly. The O/S/R door has also been resprayed in a shade of white that's not quite the same as the rest of the car. But, it's solid where it counts and all repairable with enough skill and funds (note: I have neither).  Mechanically it gets a better report card - the engine holds good oil pressure and sounds sweet as a nut. The brakes are excellent - with Calibra upgrades to the front and, I think, Saab discs on the rear. The car has been converted from automatic at some point in its past using a variety of locally-sourced parts including a Daewoo D16 close-ratio gearbox, a manual gearbox mount fabricated from the old auto one and a clutch pedal assembly from a completely different car which has been cut up and welded to fit. The gear linkage and lever appear to be the correct GM parts, probably indicating they were shared with the Camira or some other local GM product.  My initial plans are to give the cooling system a once-over (the rad's leaking/crumbling and the water pump is making naughty sounds), de-Opelify it as much as possible and then just drive it and enjoy it. I already have one car that's in bits so I'd like to keep this one on the road and not succumb to my normal problem of starting out to change a spark plug or some other trivial task and then three weeks later find out I've accidentally stripped it to its component parts and boxed it up. In the medium term I might look out for a wide-ratio gearbox to make it a more relaxed cruiser - although I think this vintage of the SRi sported a close-ratio box from the factory. I think the GM F16 unit which was fitted to the Cavs was also used on a few cars over here, or failing that a different version of the D16 Daewoo unit should do the trick. I'll also gradually source whatever trim pieces I can get my hands on from the UK to tidy things up a little bit. Long term plans = body and paint work. I also want to fix or replace the dash. More to follow  |
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Last Edit: May 24, 2021 2:32:03 GMT by llessur
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jmsheahan
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Love it! Bookedmarked
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looks like a calibra steering wheel with a bit of badge augmentation. while all the front wheel drive vauxhall gearboxes are "the same" mk2 cav had a unique casting onto of the box for the rear engine mount, i guess this is the reason for the "fabrication" you mention. i guess if you can make this good it will actually help you (avoid sourcing a cavalier specific F16 from the uk i mean) bookmarked  |
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Last Edit: Oct 13, 2020 10:05:38 GMT by darrenh
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Oct 13, 2020 13:22:02 GMT
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Yeah the steering wheel's from the Holden Calibra - same as the UK model. They're Calibra wheels too, but were also the mk3 'cav slabs'. I'll probably end up keeping those (with Vauxhall centre caps of course) as the original 14" alloys wouldn't fit over the rear disc conversion anyway.
Thanks for the tip re the engine mount. By rear do you mean at the rear of the engine (i.e. the mount at the gearbox end) or towards the rear of the car (i.e. the mount closest to the bulkhead)? The one I can see which has been fabricated is at the gearbox but towards the front of the car (i.e closest to the radiator).
It's not a bad fabrication job to be honest - I think it's more than up for the job. I was just going to change it for originality's sake but if it opens up the possibly of a locally sourced box then I'll just keep it.
Still trying to get my head around the plethora of Daewoo boxes, all with different gear and final drive ratios and seemingly very few marked with this information in any way...
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2020 3:45:00 GMT by llessur
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Oct 19, 2020 20:38:31 GMT
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yeah rear meaning the one on the gearbox closest to the bulkhead.
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Rob
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Hi!
i saw this forsale, i was tempted but it wasnt cheap. I'm in melb, and a serial vauxhall nut.
I'm currently looking for a vauxhall nova over here but there is only one i beleive in perth.
a camira manual box will work, an if from a 2.0 camira it will give longer ratios. also of note, an astra f18 will do the same using your homemade mount set. a later daewoo espero or nubira box works too
the gear lever is camira too.
if you ever sell let me know.
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Oct 20, 2020 22:49:08 GMT
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Cheers Rob - it wasn't cheap but has had a fair bit of work mechanically which I know I won't have to do again - 5 new Bridgestones, brand new custom-made exhaust, Gaz adjustable shocks all round, track rod ends etc plus has had a few potentially expensive bits replaced including four genuine GM door seals which are at least 70 bucks a pop plus postage. I got it for about 70% of the asking price in the end which was still quite a lot for an obscure British car that needs paint and would be difficult to sell on but I figured if I didn't grab it then I'd never get another chance and would regret it forever. Thanks for the advice on the gearboxes - I'll keep a lookout for a Camira box but I can't remember the last time I saw one of those at the breakers, let alone a manual one. Do you know much about the Daewoo gear ratios? I can find bugg er all info online about what the various markings on the casing mean - I don't want to go through all the hassle of stripping one out and swapping it only to find it's just as close ratioed as the one I already have. Will give you a shout if I ever decide to sell - this one might be the long-term money pit keeper though  Good luck with the search for the Nova! I'd be quite keen to do a mk2 Astra replica usinga Daewoo 1.5i as a base but the pre-facelift ones are few and far between these days... |
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2020 4:15:52 GMT by llessur
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yeah rear meaning the one on the gearbox closest to the bulkhead. - I've been out to take a look and it seems the rear mount on my D16 box is standard - the mount fixes at the same three points on the casting as the standard box (or so I believe - you might be able to advise otherwise?):   The front mount is the one that has been fabricated but not sure whether this is because it was converted from an auto, or whether something is different here with the D16 box?  |
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Oct 21, 2020 18:36:20 GMT
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yeah looks like standard top mounted cavalier setup. maybe i got the wrong end of the stick with your original post, it sounded like you had a my-mates-mate-is-a-fabricator type thing.
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2020 18:37:40 GMT by darrenh
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Rob
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the front mount is fabbed as the autos are differnet. as for box ratios there is a tab on the end of the box housign that has he final drive ratio stamped into it. mk1oc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97820 |
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the front mount is fabbed as the autos are differnet. as for box ratios there is a tab on the end of the box housign that has he final drive ratio stamped into it. mk1oc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97820That makes sense - I suspect they have fabricated it from a Camira mount which looks similar but has a different part number. I'll try to pick up a genuine Cav one as and when one comes up. Great info on the boxes - I've finally found the stamp on the casing - it's C3.722 so that answers a lot of questions about what I've got and what I''ll need to swap over to for some more relaxed cruising speeds. There was a really handy spreadsheet calculator in that thread which shows I'm likely to drop around 500RPM at 100km/h by switching to the W3.94 box. That sounds about right for what I need! |
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Cool car & a fascinating history. Sadly the supplying dealer AW Watkin closed a number of years ago and the site was redeveloped, but they had a long history here in The'Wade (there's a whole bunch of stuff on our local history website if its of interest. What's the likelihood of finding the missing Vaux-specific bits in Australia? I do have a spare slatty grille if you'd be up for covering the shipping... |
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Jan 28, 2021 16:32:35 GMT
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Love it, love it, love it!!!! Over here in the UK these were everywhere in the 90s. It's just one of so many cars that were the everyday norm back then, but are soooo refreshing to see these days. It's funny to look back and remember that in my mid to late teen's ( mid 90s ) you almost had to dedicate yourself to to particular car manufacturer. The big three then was Vauxhall, Ford and Volkswagen ( it might of been different in other areas of the country....but that's how it was in Bournemouth ).....ooh....I almost forgot.....if you were really unfortunate, you owned a Mini!! 😂😂.....no offence. I was a Ford guy and we all use to gather on the under cliff on Bournemouth sea front with Vauxhall guys on one side, the VW guys on the other and us Ford guys right in the middle.....and the odd Mini owner trying to fit in somewhere.
Anyway, what I'm actually here to say is that, one of my biggest regrets ( I have a lot of them 😳 ) is that I didn't own one of these when they were plentiful and cheap. I knew lots of people that owned them and even worked on them a great deal when I was a young mechanic. But for some reason ( other than the dedication to the blue oval ) I never owned one despite them being one one of my favourite cars. The closest I ever got was being offered an SRI 130 for £500. After a quick think about it, I turned it down in favour of a 2.8 Capri for the same money. I now get really jealous of anyone that ever owned one.....or still owns one 😁.
What you have there seems like an great base for something with excellent potential. They're thin on the ground over here, so to find one where you are must give you that sense of achievement right from the get go....so "well done for that" is what I say. These days, even though I still have a soft spot for old Fords, I've opened my mind to everything and anything 'retro'. With so many fond memories of cool cars from the 80s and 90s that have now disappeared, it was hard not to.
Anyway, good luck with your plans for this brilliant car....I look forward to progress and updates.....bookmarked 👍
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Well, those four months flew by with seemingly bugg er all happening on the Cavalier front. My general inability to get my ar se in gear definitely played a role but luckily at the moment I can just blame 'the Covid situation' for everything that goes wrong or doesn't get done and leave it at that. Whilst no real physical progress was made, I did give my bank account a jolly good thrashing and sourced a big pile of stuff through various parts suppliers, eBay and mk2cav forum contacts to tick off some of the first jobs I wanted to do. To save on postage I had everything sent to my long-suffering parents' address in Devon - I think they received at least 30 deliveries over a 3 month period which I am sure helped them pass the time in lockdown. After it littering his garage floor for a few weeks my dad carefully packaged it up and shipped out here in bulk. And here are some of the fruits of my online labour:  In no particular order there's a new Nissens radiator and rubber mounts, water pump (genuine GM), various hoses, timing belt, headlamp fixings, headlamp and hazard switches, rad fan thermo switch, thermostat, new window winders and red bumper trim strip. Then there's the cosmetic stuff that's going to be really satisfying to fit such as the genuine NOS gear level gaiter and plastic surround, grey glove box lid, 80s-tastic centre console cassette holder, NOS Vauxhall alloy wheel centre caps and a correct Vauxhall steering wheel which is in great condition and obviously from a low mileage car.  I also picked up a period-correct Philips 752 stereo for 5 quid on eBay. It's not a coded model so that's not a worry but I've no idea if it works or not. It's in good condition and was worth a punt for the price though.  I'm really chuffed with the number plates - I wanted to get a set of UK ones for show purposes but spent ages trying to track down a company which could make them up to something resembling original spec with the supplying dealer details and GM logos at the bottom. I found some photos of a similar-aged Cavalier online where the original number plates were visible and after many 'sorry we can't do that' emails I finally managed to get a set made up for my car, complete with retro blue border and age-appropriate font. I had to supply the logos which took a bit of faffing with Photoshop but I think it was worth it.  I'm not sure if there are any copyright restrictions around the use of these logos so I won't give the plate supplier's details here but feel free to PM me if you want me to pass it on. I've also managed to source a correct mid-spec egg box style Vauxhall grille - this was the first thing to be fitted as I've been absolutely desperate to get rid of the Opel one and start giving the car its proper identity back. Out with the old:  And in with the new:  Ahhh, that's better. I also fitted three new grommets to hold the grille in place as the ones on the car had disintegrated. It feels much less likely to pop off over a bump now and sits slightly off of the front bumper as intended. The white chin spoiler is wrong - it should be anthracite like rest of the lower part of the car. I've found a local paint supplier who can mix me up a rattle can in the correct Vauxhall 81L shade so I'll give it a quick DIY job as a short term fix pending, hopefully, an eventual respray of the whole car. The NOS Vauxhall alloy wheel centre caps were also an easy win. There are a couple of suppliers who still have stock of these period-correct square logo ones - I think I paid about 7 Euros for each of them - but yet weirdly they still crop up on eBay from time to time for 30 quid a pop. Go figure. Before:  And the visually pleasing after:  Even from afar I think these look better than the silver Opel ones. I'll probably keep the Cav Slabs even though they aren't original to the car as a) finding original SRi wheels out here is likely to be impossible b) I'd have to undo the brake upgrades to get the original wheels to fit and c) I actually quite like them.  I was especially keen to get rid of the Holden steering wheel the car came with as, whilst it was arguably quite nice to drive with, it was yet another manufacturer's badge which didn't belong in the car, the period was incorrect and the leather was peeling. I've got the new wheel fitted but the alignment is slightly off and I can't get the blo ody thing off the spindle again to fix it. I don't want to risk bending it or damaging the steering column so I ordered a puller from eBay to do the job properly. I'll get that sorted soon. Here's the before:  Here's the new one in its current half-fitted state:  Even like this it already looks 10x better. That's all I had time for in terms of quick fixes but I think it was time well spent. It's looking a lot more Vauxhally now and gives me a good idea of what the finished product could look like. Whether or not I'll ever have the funds to do a first-class restoration job is another question but I'll certainly work towards it incrementally and try to enjoy a fairly rare (especially out here) piece of British motoring history in the meantime. I popped out and had a chat to a highly-recommended car restorer over the weekend which helped to firm-up some plans for the car. I'm going to get the bulkhead area behind the pedals looked at first as I suspect there's still some work to be done here to address the common problem of bulkhead cracking around the driver's side steering rack mount. The accelerator pedal mounting is not fully secured to bulkhead so we'll start with that and see what that particular Pandora's box spews out. Another area which will need to see some welding is the lower valance panel beneath the rear bumper which is full of filler and definitely the worst piece of rust on the car. Panels are available for reasonable money but the shipping from the UK might be a bit of an issue. At least getting it here undamaged anyway... There's also the rust beneath the lower seal of the tailgate glass. If I was in the UK I'd just find a replacement tailgate but that won't be possible here. It'll have to be repaired unless I can find a way of sourcing a UK tailgate and getting it shipped.  Oh I also took the 6x9 Alpines off of the parcel shelf as they were way too heavy for the tailgate struts and were causing the parcel shelf to warp. They're also probably overkill for the Philips cassette deck I'm putting in. I'll have to come up with a plan to repair this shelf as again shipping will be difficult.  I did have one small issue of the car refusing to start a couple of weeks back. It happened right after I'd charged the battery so I was really worried I'd somehow fried the ECU. Luckily it turned out to be the engine to body earthing strap which had seen better days. That's been replaced now and it now starts on the button again. All for the princely sum of $8...  |
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Cool car & a fascinating history. Sadly the supplying dealer AW Watkin closed a number of years ago and the site was redeveloped, but they had a long history here in The'Wade (there's a whole bunch of stuff on our local history website if its of interest. What's the likelihood of finding the missing Vaux-specific bits in Australia? I do have a spare slatty grille if you'd be up for covering the shipping... Thanks mate - I've managed to find a grille so that's all good, cheers for the offer though Parts are pretty few and far between out here, although there is a little bit of overlap with the Cav's J-car sister the Holden Camira as well as the Calibra which was also sold here under the Holden badge. I've had to find most of the bits in the UK and Europe and get them shipped over in bulk. Not ideal but it's just what needs to be done I guess. Ideally from a bodywork perspective I'd also like to ship out a rear valance panel, one or maybe two doors and a tailgate as well as a dashboard and bumpers. Putting aside worries over whether or not things would make it here undamaged I imagine it would be a really expensive exercise. I've had a quick look around and could get a pallet-sized crate shipped over for around a grand (GBP) but whether or not I'll ever have the spare funds to do so is another matter. My best bet would be to find someone emigrating out here from the UK and rent a bit of space in their shipping container. I'll see what happens. |
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Love it, love it, love it!!!! Over here in the UK these were everywhere in the 90s. It's just one of so many cars that were the everyday norm back then, but are soooo refreshing to see these days. It's funny to look back and remember that in my mid to late teen's ( mid 90s ) you almost had to dedicate yourself to to particular car manufacturer. The big three then was Vauxhall, Ford and Volkswagen ( it might of been different in other areas of the country....but that's how it was in Bournemouth ).....ooh....I almost forgot.....if you were really unfortunate, you owned a Mini!! 😂😂.....no offence. I was a Ford guy and we all use to gather on the under cliff on Bournemouth sea front with Vauxhall guys on one side, the VW guys on the other and us Ford guys right in the middle.....and the odd Mini owner trying to fit in somewhere. Anyway, what I'm actually here to say is that, one of my biggest regrets ( I have a lot of them 😳 ) is that I didn't own one of these when they were plentiful and cheap. I knew lots of people that owned them and even worked on them a great deal when I was a young mechanic. But for some reason ( other than the dedication to the blue oval ) I never owned one despite them being one one of my favourite cars. The closest I ever got was being offered an SRI 130 for £500. After a quick think about it, I turned it down in favour of a 2.8 Capri for the same money. I now get really jealous of anyone that ever owned one.....or still owns one 😁. What you have there seems like an great base for something with excellent potential. They're thin on the ground over here, so to find one where you are must give you that sense of achievement right from the get go....so "well done for that" is what I say. These days, even though I still have a soft spot for old Fords, I've opened my mind to everything and anything 'retro'. With so many fond memories of cool cars from the 80s and 90s that have now disappeared, it was hard not to. Anyway, good luck with your plans for this brilliant car....I look forward to progress and updates.....bookmarked 👍 I think that was one of the main reasons I bought it - I didn't have the money, I don't have the space and I certainly don't have the time to work on it at the moment but I knew it would be my only chance to own a Vauxhall from my era out here in Oz so I had to take it. Even if I'm now genuinely contemplating forcing my family to move house to be able to accommodate it It does have great potential and is very solid where it counts so now it's just a case of finding the funds to make it great. In an ideal world I'd just hand it over to a body shop with some photos of what it would have looked like new but I'm not sure I'll have that sort of disposable income at any point soon. I was born in 1980 down in Brighton so I certainly remember these being everywhere. Same as the Sierra though - I think the more common cars were the more readily people disposed of them until one day there aren't very many of them left. I was never really part of a particular car scene but I did love the '85 Astra that was my first car - although at the time my parents had upgraded from a Sierra to a Granny so I also had a soft spot for the blue oval too. I would have loved a Capri btw. I can remember back in the late 90s when they were still fairly plentiful and as cheap as chips. Oh how times have changed... |
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Looks good mate, it funny how all the oddball but interesting cars come from SA or QLD.
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Looks good mate, it funny how all the oddball but interesting cars come from SA or QLD. I wonder if it's anything to do with our surprisingly/dangerously lax rego rules here in SA? |
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We don’t have yearly inspections in the ACT so it’s pretty loose here to.
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A quick update on some of the bits and pieces I bought to right some of the SRi's many wrongs. I finished fitting the steering wheel which looks great. A reminder of the decaying Holden one which was on the car when I bought it:  And the correct Vauxhall one it now sports:  The tailgate washer reservoir was missing its cap:  So I treated it to a nice new one:  And replaced the light brown window winders which didn't match the dark brown trim on the car:  With a set of 4 NOS ones in the correct dark brown colour:  The door locking pins were all missing their trim pieces:  I've found two in grey - not technically the right colour for the car but they still look better than nothing at all:  I'm on the lookout for another two for the rear doors. I also found time to play around with the 5 quid Philips stereo I bought on ebay:  It powers up fine but the lighting doesn't work - the illumination bulbs are fine but they don't seem to be getting any power so I suspect the separate illumination control circuit board may be at fault (one of the resistors looks slightly burnt) so I might try to swap one out from another unit if I can pick one up cheaply on eBay. The tape deck works but makes a god awful chugging noise. On closer inspection there's a plastic belt guide on the pulley attached to the reel drive gear which has snapped, causing the pulley to run eccentrically and scrape against the casing of the cassette mechanism. Luckily I picked up what must be one of the last NOS Philips cassette mechanisms on eBay for a mere 12 quid so that will hopefully be a straight swap (and would give me a bonus new tape head and motor), or if not I should at least be able to swap over the offending pulley which looks to be the same.  I've also been trying to treat the cardboard-like stiff leather upholstery with some rejuvenator oil in an attempt to soften it up a bit. I've splashed out on some Leatherique stuff which has pretty good ratings online:  I've been slathering it on regularly over the last couple of weeks and then as per the instructions leaving the car out in the sun wherever possible to keep the oil nice and warm so it can soak in. It appears to be doing exactly bugg er all so far. I'll persevere until it's all used up and then maybe try something else. It's quite thick and sticky so it looks like it'll be a right pain in the ars e to clean off if it doesn't soak in...  I think I've mentioned before that when the car was converted from an auto, the existing auto selector trim piece was re-used and a weird concertina-style gear lever gaiter was shoehorned into place which doesn't look great:  I've sourced a genuine NOS Vauxhall rubber gaiter as well as a NOS manual trim piece but annoyingly what I thought was a black trim piece is actually dark grey and doesn't look great in the car:  It needs to be either black or dark brown to match the car's existing trim so if I can't find another more suitable one then I'll try to find a product to spray this one black. I also need to re-colour the plastic front door arm rests as at some point grey ones have been fitted (visible in the above window winder photos) which don't look quite right. I've got a bit of time to sort out the gear lever trim as before I do anything else I want to remove the centre console and carpets to have a better look at the bulkhead behind the pedals. Something's definitely not right with the wobbly accelerator pedal mounting which I suspect is related to a past bulkhead repair to fix the common problem of cracking around the power steering rack mount. More to come... |
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