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So, fleet reduction…. 😬 I’m my defence it’s a parts car and was cheap. The simple reason is it’s quicker, easier and cheaper to pay £265 (for that is what I paid, with a months ticket left) for such a fine example of pseudo-Czech engineering than it is to buy the bits to improve the pickup to a standard I’m happy with any other way. It’s the same model motor as the pickup, has only done 70k and the interior is pretty minty, which will go a long way to stopping the pickup looking (and smelling) like a 25 year old work truck. Its a reasonably good spec one (a ‘pacific’), I basically bought it for the interior (carpets/dash/other plastics) and the power steering setup, plus the centre console and tacho equipped gauges. All the good stuff the pickups didn’t get. It comes with the added bonus of various sellable bits- body colour facelift bumper with fogs, facelift grille, good condition seats, etc. Plus any stock bits anyone needs. It’s a bit doggy on the outside in the usual places, and won’t see another test without quite a lot of welding to the rear arches, hence it meeting its maker. The entire interior and dash was out within two hours of getting back, that I completely neglected to take a pic of. Next morning all the front end panel work came off and I started on the ancillaries. I left it up at my other house for the minute (I bought it in the north) so it’s out the way, next time I go up I need to take an engine crane and hoik the engine and box out, then get it on the truck and pull the front suspension and steering rack, the complete front doors, then it’s getting fragged. I’ve brought the interior and a few other bits and bobs back down with me though, so they can be swapped over immediately. Always that balance between hassle and getting it all in one place type shopping. Donor looks and sounds great.
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Dez
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Back on the Lupo. This turned up- As it’s a pretty common problem on these (and polos and golfs and t4s, and anything else VAG that used this switch) I thought I’d show you how to swap one. It’s a 20min job, but only if you’re forewarned about a few things. The new stalk is a whopping £15, and easily matches OEM in terms of finish and feel. Some people moan they’re a plop design, but it’s a 20 year old plastic switch that gets pretty constant use in the uk, and always gets knocked when getting in and out and scrabbling around for the ignition, so I don’t think they’re particularly short lived given the abuse they get. first, disconnect the battery if you don’t like airbags going off in your face. You have to be quite forceful with it to get it out, and they have been known to not like that. Turn the ignition on so the steering lock comes off and swing the wheel through 90 degrees so you can put a screwdriver under the column and into the hole on the back of the steering wheel spoke, like this. There is no fixing for you to undo, what you’re trying to do is lever the big spring clip inside the steering wheel out of its groove. This thing- As you can see, this wheel has been off a few times! You lay the screwdriver flat against the column then swing it away, you’ll hear the clip click if you’ve got it right, get you fingertips in the groove between the airbag and wheel spokes and you’ll feel it move a few mm if you’ve got it unclipped. There’s a bit of a knack but you’ll know by feel and sound when you’ve got it. Now what most guides don't tell you is that if you let go of it to turn the wheel round 180 to do the other side, it’ll spring back in. So you either need to keep your fingers in the gap, or wedge something in there to stop it springing back if you plan to let go. Once you’ve got both sides done you have to push the airbag up slightly to get it to dislodge from the third clip at the bottom, then it’ll come out. Unplug the yellow connector and the horn wire and set it aside. This pic shows how the screwdriver unclips the big spring clip. That is by far the hardest bit of the job, and the bit everyone struggles with. Once you’re in, then remove the column lower plastics (3 screws) then it unclips, and undo the yellow plug for the airbag clockspring. Undo the centre nut, square the wheel up before you remove then wiggle it off. The big VW fine spines are never that tight a fit in my experience and come do pretty easily. You then unto these 3 screws, give the indicator switch a slight wiggle whist pulling up gently, and it will unplug from the wiper switch below. Set that aside for the minute. You then have to unplug all the wiring from the wiper switch. There’s 5 plugs, 2 red and 3 black, as the indicator/dip wiring plugs into sockets on the wiper switch that the indicator switch then plugs into. Quite a good design really. The wiring plugs have two tabs each, a male on one end and a female on the other. Once you’ve got the first one figured you can do the others by feel. You’ll realise then there’s nothing else holding the wiper switch on (as it’s just sandwiched by the ind switch and the screws you’ve already undone) and it’ll slide straight off. Just make sure you note where the wiring for the red flylead plug goes around the transponder. When you get it off, it’ll Proably look something like this, especially if it’s been bad enough to let the magic smoke out, or your wipers won’t turn off any more. If they’re really badly melted sometimes you have to pry that plug out as the plastic will have glue or in when it’s reset! Once you’ve got this far, it’s just reassemble is the reverse of removal. Plug it all back together, be careful not to pinch any wires when putting the column plastics back on, and at the end plug the airbag and horn back in but don’t refit it before connecting the battery and testing, seeing as getting it out is the hardest bit. If all is good clip the airbag back in, they go in much easier than they come out. If not go back and check all your plugs are in properly. Job jobbed.
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Last Edit: Nov 8, 2021 19:55:46 GMT by Dez
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Neat tutorial.
Hope I never have to do it through.
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Dez
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Neat tutorial. Hope I never have to do it through. It’s not that bad really, once the wheel is off. I’ve known people to not use vehicles in the rain for a long time because they’re putting off doing it though, all becuase of the airbag/steering wheel removal.
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Dez
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So here’s some of the stuff I stripped off the Felicia, and brought back down with me for the pickup. Some very nice condition carpets- They really are good and will go a long way to freshening up the interior. It seems the sound deadening on them is thicker too? Also notice the strut brace. They only fitted these to cars for some reason. Another ‘why the f-k did they not fit those on pickups?!’ Part is this, the desirable centre console. It makes absolutely no sense to me why they wouldn’t fit a useful dumping ground for bits and bobs on a commercial vehicle, which is arguably crying out for it more than a normal car. But, they didn’t. But I now have one, and as I removed it myself I also have the different handbrake cover, the extra sound deadening that goes under it, and the different gearstick boot, as well as the brackets and all the fixings. Here’s how they sit in the truck. Just makes sense doesnt it? Thankfully it clears my new seats too. The other major grot spot on my truck is the steering wheel. Compare this- To this- And you’ll understand why I was keen to get the low miles car with the clean interior. Another interesting thing I found was the gearbox is only half as old as the car, so I deffo need to pull that out and keep it before disposing of the rest.
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glenanderson
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Could you have used the car’s seats too?
Not that I think you shouldn’t keep the funky ones, just curious.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Dez
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Yep they’d go straight in. Only reason I haven’t is bright blue seats and door cards in a red and white truck isn’t really for me!
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glenanderson
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Nov 10, 2021 11:11:17 GMT
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Yep they’d go straight in. Only reason I haven’t is bright blue seats and door cards in a red and white truck isn’t really for me! No sense of adventure. 🤣🤣🤣
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Nov 11, 2021 16:54:54 GMT
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Great buy as always Dez. Nearly bought one of these in the past but nixed it as I was doing a lot of motorway mileage! I understand that there are quite a few spicy engine transplants possible? Although looking at the condition of the car, might be better to buy a sh1**er to mess with! Apparently the later 1.4 turbo for the 500 has been done. It should also be possible to bolt up the punto turbo stuff straight to this engine is Ive read correctly. I’m not sure I’d enjoy the car as much with a turbo though. It’s N/A revvyness is part of its appeal. Unfortunately I've just binned all my leftover 100HP stuff that no-one wanted. If you want to go down the turbo route, the most popular swap is the 1.4 MultiAir from a Grande Punto. 100HP specific coilovers are spendy but its essentially a 500 underneath so 500 coilovers go straight on if you ever decide to go down that route. The rear beam from a 500 also bolts up if you find your spring perches are rusting out, but this does increase the rear track by 20mm. I paid a grand for my 50,000 miles Cat D a few years ago but made a mint breaking it for spares when I eventually stopped using it as a daily. As said, the front and rear bumpers are hard to get hold of, so even used front ones are several hundred quid.
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Dez
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Nov 12, 2021 14:24:23 GMT
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Apparently the later 1.4 turbo for the 500 has been done. It should also be possible to bolt up the punto turbo stuff straight to this engine is Ive read correctly. I’m not sure I’d enjoy the car as much with a turbo though. It’s N/A revvyness is part of its appeal. Unfortunately I've just binned all my leftover 100HP stuff that no-one wanted. If you want to go down the turbo route, the most popular swap is the 1.4 MultiAir from a Grande Punto. 100HP specific coilovers are spendy but its essentially a 500 underneath so 500 coilovers go straight on if you ever decide to go down that route. The rear beam from a 500 also bolts up if you find your spring perches are rusting out, but this does increase the rear track by 20mm. I paid a grand for my 50,000 miles Cat D a few years ago but made a mint breaking it for spares when I eventually stopped using it as a daily. As said, the front and rear bumpers are hard to get hold of, so even used front ones are several hundred quid. In all honesty, unless something major breaks the car will just be kept 100% stock and used. It’s interesting enough for me to not hate driving to when I do, but the mrs can also happily use it as a daily driver. Although she has paid out for private parking near to the school she’s currently working at rather than leave it in the school car park in an attempt to keep it nice!
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Nov 12, 2021 14:50:50 GMT
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In all honesty, unless something major breaks the car will just be kept 100% stock and used. It’s interesting enough for me to not hate driving to when I do, but the mrs can also happily use it as a daily driver. Although she has paid out for private parking near to the school she’s currently working at rather than leave it in the school car park in an attempt to keep it nice! Have you got the SPORT mode on? If not, put it in and you'll probably never take it off. It backs off the ePAS for much better steering feedback and sharpens up the throttle for a much nicer drive. Speaking of ePAS, should you ever have an issue and need to replace the column, don't think you can slap any old Panda one in. Has to be 100HP specific, otherwise when you push the SPORT button you'll put it in City mode instead which has super over-assisted steering.
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Dez
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Nov 13, 2021 11:18:45 GMT
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So the gearshift on the Skoda felt pretty awful. It was to the point it was hard to tell what gear it was in there was so much play, and going for reverse meant a knee/knob interface 😂 With it on the ramp, it was apparent it wasn’t just any one bush that was the culprit, and the whole setup was rather baggy. (And yes, unintentional rickroll, I’ll have it though 😬) Some looking around online and I concluded you couldn’t but separate bits anyway. A closer look at the linkage bars and I noticed this- I’m going to surmise that when the exhaust let go in the past, it also smashed half the shifter linkage to bits, and this quality workmanship* is the result. So I decided to just buy the complete setup, which I’d seen listed on eBay. I thought £80 was quite expensive given the relative cheapness of parts for these things though, so I went to google and found these guys- They’re in the Czech Republic, but have a pretty good website where you can order internationally with vat and duties already paid. What’s more their prices are very good, even after a small fee from my bank for processing the currency conversion it came in to pretty much £55 delivered, so quite a considerable saving. I did have to wait 2 weeks for it to turn up, but I can’t even blame fed-ex for that as they got it all the way across mainland Europe in less than two days, then it sat in Stanstead for over a week because a load of gammony old idiots think putting up boarders with your closest neighbours is a good idea 🙄 But, here it is- You get absolutely everything in between the shifter shaft on the box and the gear knob. You even get a new rear hanger/mount that bolts to the body, so literally everything that could have worn over the years had been replaced. There’s one bolt on the torque arm at the front that is easy to swap over. The rear mount is just two bolts and slipping the rubber boot over the selector and making sure it sits in the groove correctly. Tbh the front joint was quite tight and took some getting on, I knocked it on until the hole for the roll pin was half lined up then used a taper drift to get it aligned. I think you’d really struggle with this if you were trying to do it on the floor tbh. My only other tiny criticism would be you didn’t get a new roll pin with it. It feels tons better now though. I mean it’s not cable shift ‘tight’ but it’s as good as a linkage type gets, and definitely the best 50 quid I’ve spent on this thing so far.
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Dez
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Nov 13, 2021 11:24:37 GMT
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In all honesty, unless something major breaks the car will just be kept 100% stock and used. It’s interesting enough for me to not hate driving to when I do, but the mrs can also happily use it as a daily driver. Although she has paid out for private parking near to the school she’s currently working at rather than leave it in the school car park in an attempt to keep it nice! Have you got the SPORT mode on? If not, put it in and you'll probably never take it off. It backs off the ePAS for much better steering feedback and sharpens up the throttle for a much nicer drive. Speaking of ePAS, should you ever have an issue and need to replace the column, don't think you can slap any old Panda one in. Has to be 100HP specific, otherwise when you push the SPORT button you'll put it in City mode instead which has super over-assisted steering. Yeah I was surprised at the difference it made. Sport buttons are usually a bit of a gimmick imho, but on this it really does make a noticeable difference.
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Nov 13, 2021 18:18:46 GMT
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Sport buttons are generally more useful on higher tech cars with automatic gearboxes; typically holding gears longer on part throttle, improving throttle response, making traction control less intrusive, tightening up steering and suspension, and in some cases lowering ride height.
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jamesd1972
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Nov 14, 2021 16:24:59 GMT
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That gear linkage looks very like a rear engined one -perhaps shows how much proper Skoda was clinging on still. Steady progress towards something OK to drive by the looks of it. James
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Dez
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Nov 15, 2021 21:07:55 GMT
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Sport buttons are generally more useful on higher tech cars with automatic gearboxes; typically holding gears longer on part throttle, improving throttle response, making traction control less intrusive, tightening up steering and suspension, and in some cases lowering ride height. A sport button on an automatic is the dictionary definition of oxymoron. Been there, done that, spent the whole time wishing it was a manual!
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Dez
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Nov 15, 2021 21:11:11 GMT
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That gear linkage looks very like a rear engined one -perhaps shows how much proper Skoda was clinging on still. Steady progress towards something OK to drive by the looks of it. James Yeah it’s coming along. I quite enjoy ticking off stuff like this, fairly easily and cheaply making something most would write off as a shagged old banger into something nice to drive. Biggest bone of contention at the moment though is getting to legally drive it. It’s over two weeks since I sent in the v62 and I’ve not heard a thing. At the current rate the MOT will have run out before I can tax it!
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Nov 15, 2021 21:51:37 GMT
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Sport buttons are generally more useful on higher tech cars with automatic gearboxes; typically holding gears longer on part throttle, improving throttle response, making traction control less intrusive, tightening up steering and suspension, and in some cases lowering ride height. A sport button on an automatic is the dictionary definition of oxymoron. Been there, done that, spent the whole time wishing it was a manual! Gordon Bennett, I thought that I was the old Luddite😎;- I converted an automatic because I couldn’t find an example of that model with manual transmission. Within minutes I realised that I had made a grave error. Manual transmission may be ok on low powered cars, but automatic is superior in every way, under every circumstance. It can be overridden on the rare occasions when that is desirable; track use, mountain passes, or preparing for single carriageway overtaking, and that’s about it. At other times, it’s always in the right gear, it changes much faster than you or I, and does so cleanly every time. Taken to its logical conclusion, should sporty also come with manual advance and retard levers on the steering wheel, and brakes only on the rear?
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Nov 15, 2021 22:07:53 GMT
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The problem with opinions is we all have them. This is Dez’s thread, so he is entitled to his opinion on it. Your opinion is entirely valid…. But just ends up cluttering someone else’s thread up with a difference of opinion. Anyway, that’s just my opinion
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Rich
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Nov 15, 2021 22:14:14 GMT
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The problem with opinions is we all have them. Much like bottoms. And if someone doesn't like your bottom out, then you should probably tuck it back away when asked. Or something. What were we talking about again?
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