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Sept 22, 2021 7:31:30 GMT
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Another quick after work session, though I was kinda gutted I could not strike an narc or two, as I am in a two day national online meeting that I cannot walk out of at all. So after work I went and took a quick look which turned into two hours of measure, fit, cut, move about. I recovered the passenger seat from the C10 cab and put it in the tub as well. Roll bar as it stood.  Both seats, and screen with roll bar.   Mocking up is the easy part of course. I think thats how I want it, seats will be back 3-4 inches at least. Fixed.  Once I got to the look I wanted, I copied the angle of the roll bar onto a pizza box with a Sharpie, CAD at it’s best.  And proceeded to transfer measurements onto the paving outside the garage, using the water drain as a straight edge…….. And cut both ends as long as possible.. VERY HAPPY at this point.   I am adding new mounting plates that have been rotated slightly to the floor, that will then sandwich the body to the chassis.  I also trimmed the outside corners as the body tub has a slight curve at the bottom where it had been moulded, thus preventing any issues later. I will be mounting and setting the roll bar at the correct angle and position using ductape, broomsticks and small children before tacking the base plates to it, followed by a decent penetrating weld. Fresh hardware and a diagonal rear brace, modified to suit should give me the look I am after. Then the search for suitable safety belts or harnesses will be on, that can be used with the RX8 seats  If things go well, I may try find some time tonight after work for the welding up, before cooking dinner for Sally and I . Fingers crossed. |
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misteralz
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I may drive a Volkswagen, but I'm scene tax exempt!
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Sept 22, 2021 7:40:54 GMT
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I love that roll bar. It's aggressively selfish!
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Sept 22, 2021 10:16:00 GMT
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I love that roll bar. It's aggressively selfish! Absolutely, it should fit in with the whole WTF ? Attitude of the car, slightly Antisocial Thuggery in motion. I am already thinking of putting a LED high-tight brake light into the top junction as well, possibly with an override switch, allowing me to find and fit a strobe type that goes into F1 cars when raced in the rain. GREAT RESULT…… The company gave us an hour off for “Wellness Wednesday” time to add to lunch to do whatever we want, as long as it is not work. I guess I am headed out to quickly do some prep, cleaning some of the chrome off the base of the roll bar and welding it to the plates. Fingers crossed it is a quick n easy job. |
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Sept 22, 2021 12:37:17 GMT
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I have a pair of RX8 seats in red n black. The drivers side is filled with motors and actuators etc. All sorts of adjustments possible. I would love to get rid of it in exchange for a matched passenger item. Question is: Any groups out there where I can try trade my drivers side for a passenger seat? The set I have.  Post in here or even PM if ypu can. Thanks. |
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Sept 22, 2021 14:56:07 GMT
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As a thought how close is the basic structure of the seats to the MX5 ones? Mazda are pretty good at component sharing, it bay be possible to swap the foams and covers onto the mx5 frames.
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Sept 22, 2021 15:45:27 GMT
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As a thought how close is the basic structure of the seats to the MX5 ones? Mazda are pretty good at component sharing, it bay be possible to swap the foams and covers onto the mx5 frames. Very good thinking, though they seem different. I primarily want to remove all the weight in actuators and motors, but am afraid they may leave holes, damage under the surface once removed. But well worth a look to see if it is a matter of fooling the eyes. In which case…….. game on. |
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Sept 22, 2021 16:31:58 GMT
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Absolutely, it should fit in with the whole WTF ? Attitude of the car, slightly Antisocial Thuggery in motion. Hm, I don´t know You that good, but You don't seem to be someone of the antisocial kind, more like a rather nice person to deal with? But in case there is some antisocial Mr. Hide inside You, why don't You just buy the usual extra-loud Harley bike for him like many other suits do when they want to whoop it up?  |
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Sept 22, 2021 18:24:02 GMT
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You may not know him but you've described him quite accurately,
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Last Edit: Sept 22, 2021 21:29:24 GMT by Rich
BMW E39 525i Sport
BMW E46 320d Sport Touring (now sold on.)
BMW E30 325 Touring (now sold on.)
BMW E30 320 Cabriolet (Project car - currently for sale.)
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Sept 22, 2021 19:05:26 GMT
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Absolutely, it should fit in with the whole WTF ? Attitude of the car, slightly Antisocial Thuggery in motion. Hm, I don´t know You that good, but You don't seem to be someone of the antisocial kind, more like a rather nice person to deal with? But in case there is some antisocial Mr. Hide inside You, why don't You just buy the usual extra-loud Harley bike for him like many other suits do when they want to whoop it up? I am a super nice, generous, caring kinda guy, gives people a second and third chance. But if you take it too far, I may be unpleasant, and then I still hate it. Antisocial Thuggery was a term I coined years ago to describe my cutout valves for the V8 in the C10. Hm, I don´t know You that good, but You don't seem to be someone of the antisocial kind, more like a rather nice person to deal with? . . . . You may not know him but you've described him quite accurately, Nigel Thanks Nigel, you are very kind. Being nice is a lot easier than being an idiot. |
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Sept 22, 2021 19:34:50 GMT
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Well, what do you when the company gives you an hour extra at lunch time? You go do some cutting, grinding and welding. First thing to do was get the tools ready, then fix the chassis so it would not roll around, and set it as close as possible to level.  Then set the angle using the CAD tool.  Ready to weld.  Bzzzzzzzzzzttt…… .jpg) Done.  Cooled off, I thought it made sense to try it in position. HAPPY !!  Seats in the position they will be fixed.  Front view, in final position they windscreen and roll bar have the same top horizontal line. So pleased with this result.  That concluded my lunch break. We ended up concluding day 1 by 3.45 which meant I could go for a 5.3km walk which took me an hour. Than I went down to the garage again to start on the rear diagonal which would prove to be more challenging. Being from the 56 Chevy Paul Y used to race and hoon about in, it is too big in all directions. It took me a lot of fine tuned grinding and sanding with flap wheel and my narrow power file. Eventually it all slipped together easily  Then using the level between various points on the chassis I got the cutoff line marked out. It is not the original roll bar, so I need to make up a new anchor point for the rear. I will have to weld in a new mounting plate to the chassis and also a foot plate to the rear diagonal with a couple of nuts and bolts.  I cut the plate in preparation, and also cut and prepped the diagonal. At this point I closed shop.  Hopefully I can get the two parts made up and welded in place tomorrow evening after work. Life is still good. |
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Sept 22, 2021 19:44:48 GMT
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You're already miles ahead of where I'd have got, well chuffed for you and excited!!!
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Sept 22, 2021 20:54:08 GMT
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The roll bar looks much better. It lines up nicely with the top of the windscreen too. Are you looking to sell both the RX8 seats or do you just want to swap the electric one for a manual?
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Sept 22, 2021 21:00:08 GMT
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great work there Grizz your vision is coming together
i’ve always likes the rx8 seats with the wankel rotor shape in the headrest
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Sept 22, 2021 21:17:23 GMT
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You're already miles ahead of where I'd have got, well chuffed for you and excited!!! LOL !! I am not really ahead of anything or anyone, I am just in a good place right now. I love finding spare time and applying it. Sally is also massively tolerant of my hobby, so I do get a fair amount of chances to steal a minute here and there. She also does not need to be entertained 24/7 The roll bar looks much better. It lines up nicely with the top of the windscreen too. Are you looking to sell both the RX8 seats or do you just want to swap the electric one for a manual? I like the seats, and if I have to stick with them, I will, I want the leather because it has the potential to resist bad weather to some extent. I just see no use for, and certainly am not planning to wire the drivers side up, a manual seat is much more appealing. great work there Grizz your vision is coming together i’ve always likes the rx8 seats with the wankel rotor shape in the headrest Thanks mate. I am happy with it so far. I also need to say again, as I did yesterday to nickwheeler that this build certainly is a community build. So many of you guys on here have made contributions, be it motivation, material, or challenging me, it all comes together to build a car we will probably all want to own. The seats were a big YES when Bill managed to find them, I had seen a car parked somewhere with them in, and knew I wanted a set. Finding these was a great bit of luck. |
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Sept 23, 2021 8:49:12 GMT
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Before work today I bagged myself an hour. Mounting plate for the diagonal had to be made as it sits in a completely different place to the original 4 point roll bar support. I also needed to make up a foot plate for the diagonal. Cut some plate. Faithful Sharpie out and cut basic plate back.  Tidied up.  Foot plate measured, cut, drilled, finished back.  Next up, find some time to bolt together and weld to chassis and then the diagonal will be added. Sir Steve Redgrave telling me how he was successful in 5 Olympic games. Time to concentrate. |
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Sept 23, 2021 9:15:08 GMT
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so, off to Paris then rowing ? running ? ...   |
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thomfr
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Trying to assemble the Duett again..
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Sept 23, 2021 10:01:59 GMT
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Did you try to swap your driver seat with one of a Left Hand Drive car somewhere in Europe? Freight costs might be an issue.
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Sept 23, 2021 10:53:36 GMT
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Did you try to swap your driver seat with one of a Left Hand Drive car somewhere in Europe? Freight costs might be an issue. Thom Not thought about that but it’s bound to be costly. This is meant to be a budget build. |
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Sept 23, 2021 11:03:32 GMT
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So the next little problem would be supporting gussets under the plate that would not interfere with the Jeep Cherokee fuel tank planned for the build. With a bit of fine tuning it should all come together and fit. Exhaust will be side exit in front of the rear wheel so route not fouled by the tank.  Rear view.   Tank sits in a robust steel basket, thanks to Paul Y again for the “trade”’ |
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Sept 23, 2021 11:24:43 GMT
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Hi grizz. Would it be possible to move the tank to the right enough to fit another cross member under the roll bar tube end?
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