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I applaud both your bravery and your choice of car. It is already beginning to look spectacular. I've always loved Saabs, when I was ten TURBO just sounded so exciting. I'm now on my third but mine have all been post-GM cars. Cheers Keith, they get under your skin!
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Oct 10, 2020 22:45:18 GMT
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I have just realised that those switchpacks would of also been in early mk2 900's so yours may not be original. I find them better as they don't stick like the flat 900 switchpack.
In reply to the primaries swap, It was so damn difficult getting the 7's off my old box I don't think I would do a good job of it ....
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Great job that man, this is looking absolutely cracking, good save!
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aero
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I have just realised that those switchpacks would of also been in early mk2 900's so yours may not be original. I find them better as they don't stick like the flat 900 switchpack. In reply to the primaries swap, It was so damn difficult getting the 7's off my old box I don't think I would do a good job of it .... I don’t think it’s original, although it doesn’t really matter as these cars are hardly that way inclined; in fact I like that you can add your own personal touches and upgrades without the classic police coming down you; no one cares luckily, as they aren’t worth much and don’t really have a huge following. In other news, the gearbox was removed yesterday and aside from a chipped reverse gear, which I hear is common, she reported well. A few pics: The clutch took a grand total of 10 minutes to remove, and it’s even quicker with the engine in apparently! The bog standard 2010 Audi A4 we went to the garage in takes 5 hours!
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aero
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Great job that man, this is looking absolutely cracking, good save! Cheers Fritz! Getting there, engine goes in Saturday!
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Oct 11, 2020 11:16:53 GMT
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I feel you're wrong on the valuation front - ie that they aren't worth much - I realise yours is slightly different (in as much as it's been an insurance write-off?) but there was a recent anglia car auction where a v clean (and green, which I didn't think was the best colour) 900 turbo achieved £22,000 (plus auction fees). Here's the link to it in fact: angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/results/sat-22nd-sun-23rd-august/1993-saab-900-se-turbo/ Whether we're at the stage, like E30 bmw's are at, where originality counts for so much, remains to be seen, but they have a tremendously loyal following, there aren't many left, they are modern enough to get parts, the whole family fits in them (so as a third car, high-days and holidays, as it were) so it ticks that box - and they are surprisingly quick too. I think you've bought and invested in an absolute cracking car tbf. And you might even make a profit too!
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Oct 11, 2020 11:21:39 GMT
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I'm looking for one - not a 10,000 mileage queen but something that's been used, that I can use and run because my business mileage has completely collapsed (from around 27,000 miles a year so around 32,000 a year including non-business stuff to 5,000 in total). I really felt diesel was the only way to go (so am running a 2005 a3 tdi - and getting around 52mpg tank to tank). But the new reality.......that opens up all sorts of opportunities......
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aero
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Oct 11, 2020 14:15:22 GMT
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I feel you're wrong on the valuation front - ie that they aren't worth much - I realise yours is slightly different (in as much as it's been an insurance write-off?) but there was a recent anglia car auction where a v clean (and green, which I didn't think was the best colour) 900 turbo achieved £22,000 (plus auction fees). Here's the link to it in fact: angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/results/sat-22nd-sun-23rd-august/1993-saab-900-se-turbo/ Whether we're at the stage, like E30 bmw's are at, where originality counts for so much, remains to be seen, but they have a tremendously loyal following, there aren't many left, they are modern enough to get parts, the whole family fits in them (so as a third car, high-days and holidays, as it were) so it ticks that box - and they are surprisingly quick too. I think you've bought and invested in an absolute cracking car tbf. And you might even make a profit too! £22,000, yes, but for a 10,000 miles car - a ‘unicorn’ car; a similarly low mileage e30 325i motorsport could well be 3 times that much. A good ‘honest’ T16S is around 8 grand, you are right they are rare, and even ones that look nice on the surface will almost certainly have some rust. Parts are cheap but not always easy to find, but rust is rust and depending upon where it is, not cheap if you factor in paint. What I’ve done almost makes sense; while I may not turn a profit, I won’t lose much and at least I’ll know what’s been done and to a good standard.
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Oct 11, 2020 15:01:57 GMT
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Profit or not chapeau for your project! Thom
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Oct 11, 2020 15:06:36 GMT
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Profit or not chapeau for your project! Thom Thanks Thom!
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Oct 11, 2020 17:06:36 GMT
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Damn you are getting things done quick! Clutches can be really easy. If you can, replace the master cylinder at the same time as if that fails, out come the angle grinders, crow bars etc as it gets really messy. Do you have new engine mounts? get some of those too. Strongly recommend replacing the clutch line from the master to the slave as these ALWAYS fail. Every 900 I have had - that line goes. Easily replaced with one from saabits. www.saabits.com/transmission/saab-900/classic-saab-900-clutch-hoseCan't wait to see it done.
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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melle
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Oct 12, 2020 14:20:36 GMT
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I'm with 60six , do the lot at once to avoid potential hassle in the future (there are alternatives to angle grinders and crowbars by the way). If you decide to replace the clutch hose I would opt for a HEL braided one that Saabits sell too because it has fewer connections.
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2020 14:26:08 GMT by melle
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Oct 12, 2020 21:34:10 GMT
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I'm with 60six , do the lot at once to avoid potential hassle in the future (there are alternatives to angle grinders and crowbars by the way). If you decide to replace the clutch hose I would opt for a HEL braided one that Saabits sell too because it has fewer connections. Without that 6ft crazy special clutch tool that you had to borrow from saab garages, is there another method that can be used to easily remove a failed master? I cut the arms off the pressure plate to get the damn thing out! Didn't know they did the best form of clutch line - www.saabits.com/all/saab-900-classic-braided-clutch-hoseI made my own but it cost a lot more than theirs, and that was 6 years ago though. Every 900 I owned apart from an auto had clutch failure. The worst was one that the rubber part of the original clutch line degraded inside and all these bits of rubber would stop the master from going back in. After all this I remember just how easy the whole car was to work on, and now I want another! 14 years ago I paid 350 for mine ... I don't think they will ever go MK1 escort on us thankfully.
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melle
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Oct 12, 2020 21:37:16 GMT
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Without that 6ft crazy special clutch tool that you had to borrow from saab garages, is there another method that can be used to easily remove a failed master? I cut the arms off the pressure plate to get the damn thing out! I assume you mean the slave, but yes. there are other methods. I'll see if I can find photos of how I did it later. EDIT: pic found. Undo the pressure plate bolts, use a tyre lever or a crowbar to pry it off the flywheel and stick wedges in between, install home-made clutch tool, remove wedges, remove slave.
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2020 21:44:01 GMT by melle
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Now that would work as long as the slave cylinder goes all the way back in, which mine didn't! Nice tool - I use a piece of electrical flex which does the same job. I also completely forgot the holy bible of these cars which has got me out of trouble quite a few times. Shame there isn't one for the 9000 .... www.amazon.co.uk/SAAB-Valve-Official-Service-Manual/dp/083761693X
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My spacer is a piece of TIG welding rod. I have a Bentley manual, but I also have a factory manual, so the Bentley doesn't get much use. It's much better than a Haynes manual though.
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My spacer is a piece of TIG welding rod. I have a Bentley manual, but I also have a factory manual, so the Bentley doesn't get much use. It's much better than a Haynes manual though. Did you get the factory manual online or is it an original? Didn't think I had much more to learn about 900's until this sites.google.com/site/stevelewissaab/products/c900-corners-with-reverse-lightThe wiring is already there on mine - Will enquire if they are safe to wire in for the next MOT. Seems like a really good idea that wasn't taken up.
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Oct 17, 2020 11:37:05 GMT
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I have a paper factory manual in two binders, I also have proper Bentley books and I'm pretty sure I have both the 8V and 16V version in PDF as well if anyone needs them.
You don't have to buy Steve Lewis' overpriced corner units if you want front reversing lights; you can convert standard ones with a Dremel and an additional indicator bulb holder.
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Oct 17, 2020 23:24:33 GMT
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I have a paper factory manual in two binders, I also have proper Bentley books and I'm pretty sure I have both the 8V and 16V version in PDF as well if anyone needs them. You don't have to buy Steve Lewis' overpriced corner units if you want front reversing lights; you can convert standard ones with a Dremel and an additional indicator bulb holder. I was thinking that he had done the same to standard indicators with a dremel himself - I once asked how much his reconditioned gearboxes were - I know these things are rare and quite unusual in the gearbox world (no syncromesh on reverse!) but over 5k was nonsense, even if the claims of almost as good as new were true. I was after the original factory manual in PDF - Don't fancy a whole day in front of a sheet feeder duplex scanner ? Don't blame you!
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Oct 17, 2020 23:29:46 GMT
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I applaud both your bravery and your choice of car. It is already beginning to look spectacular. I've always loved Saabs, when I was ten TURBO just sounded so exciting. I'm now on my third but mine have all been post-GM cars. Cheers Keith, they get under your skin! I really didn't like the later 900 visually at all. The dash was too sparse & the overall look was just meh. Some GM cars are just as much fun on the road. Early 93's in 2.3 turbo form are on par with a 9000 as far as tunability goes and handle better. Later 93's are almost all GM 95's are good throughout the range, and a great cruiser as long as you haven't owned a 9000 - feels cheap in comparison.
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