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ok, I plan to put the engine in the minor this weekend which will mean I can get to the box of LPG parts, I'll dig it out and post a couple of pictures.
Any other LPG bits you need while I'm in there?
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oh now your asking , pm me some pics of the bits you have and i will see ?
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Today i had fun with switches . these switches to be exact ..  one on the left has 3 connections and controls the limpest heater fan ever , low speed , and slightly less low speed . the one no the right controls the two speed wipers ,and has 6 connections . on my car , someone had tried to undo a terminal on the wiper switch , and broken it off, when i tried to undo them i realised why , they were incredibly tightly rusted on , and turning the screw head simply twisted the terminal . using two sets of mole grips , and a lot of force , i got them all undone ...i then swapped the wires over to the other switch ,since it was easy to undo ,and had been running a lot cooler than the wiper switch had been judging by the rust on it where the plating had been burnt off . now i just had to connect the 3 heater wires to the bad switch , but of course , one of its 3 terminals i needed was a wobbler , so took it apart . inside was a ring of brass cups , , i drilled out the hole where the connector went , and popped in a m3 brass screw ..  dimpled it with the die grinder..  you can also see on that picture where i have drilled out another to fix it too. the tiny little foot on the terminal i tapped out to m3 ..  and then screwed it onto the brass screw , and added a s/s locknut with loctite on it ..  did the other one too..  and now it works .  with the inlet manifold , it needed a bit more work after the linisher action , so ,to get rid of a dip , i double sided sticky taped two sockets to the vice face , held the manifold up against them , then put a 4mm bit of metal plate on the other jaw , inline with the gap between the sockets , this then put localised pressure on the ally as i tightened the vice , and worked well , i got the inlet to this stage ..   which i think will do .... oh, as you can see, i also cut a section out of it , to clear the water stub for sure , and to allow it to flex a bit more as i bolt it up . lastly, i did a bit of work on the boost gauge problem . i want a gauge that has a black face and white numerals and needle , so i decided to hoick the one off the project 17 bike , since it had suffered from what i thought was simply needle slipping around the spindle ,and repair it .  the bike would back fire into the plenum on occasion , and this was why the needle had slipped round ,,or so i thought... i painstakingly levered off the crimped face ring..   only to find the real reason was the rack and pinion in the gauge were kaput ! BUM !! so that whole plan was a bust , but worth a try . second lastly i wired up the reverse switch , and also fed the wire from the tank to the dash ready to connect to the lpg ecu . thats all folks . . hasta luigi ! regards robert |
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Jul 29, 2021 19:14:37 GMT
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Golly 20 dayzz since my last contribution ! the week before last i had a touch of food poisoning and a temp of 100.4 ,my transformation into the human fire hydrant was a few days of bathroom fun . in other news i got working on the car after my week of weight loss , and the first thing i did was to put the nitrous nozzles into the inlet ..  just kidding , they are for the lpg if i go injection at some point. next was to connect the intercooler , this was easy with the drivers sde , just a straight pipe , the other side needed a pipe making so i did just that out of old scrap ..  fits down here..  also connected up all the gas pipes and the wiring ..  and with the air filter temp fitted on we have the complete bay ...    today i fired her up on lpg , did a bit of fuel setting , it's a bit rich but you can see it running here.. Unfortunately now i have set the tappets,so they are quiet ,i can hear it has a definite rattle , sporadic and not consistent , i am thinking timing chain or a rocker catching ? have a listen and see what you think , its a new engine to me so suggestions welcome , you can definitely hear it coming and going , quiet at tickover ,then rattles on rev up , then at higher revs quiet again , i did think it may be something catching in the distributor , but so sign of anything i could see under the cap. seems v responsive and sporty , so that's good . regards robert |
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Sounds like the timing chain gone a bit weebly woobly but it's really hard to tell.
Stethoscope time.
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 14:31:56 GMT by PhilA
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Timing chain tensioner not doing its thing? On Rovers of this era they’re on a ratchet that self adjusts with oil pressure. I would expect a similarly “engineered” solution on one of these. Maybe the mechanism is gummed up from all the years standing?
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jul 30, 2021 12:52:52 GMT
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Jul 30, 2021 14:33:31 GMT
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Yeah, it sounds like chain fling but at the same time it doesn't.
Did you have the chain cover off? Maybe the tensioner bearing is on the way out?
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 14:33:39 GMT by PhilA
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Jul 30, 2021 15:45:29 GMT
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Hmm. Well, I will add it to the long list of “best guesses that were wrong”. 🤣 Found this in the garage. Any use? The bezel is a little manky, but it definitely works…   |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jul 30, 2021 15:51:51 GMT
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Yeah, it sounds like chain fling but at the same time it doesn't. Did you have the chain cover off? Maybe the tensioner bearing is on the way out? i know what you mean Phil , it is confusing the way it comes and goes , even at tickover after revving, its there, then goes totally quiet ,you can hardly tell its running . No i did not have the cover off , i think maybe i should have , next week it'll be rad out , and cover off , and also convert to alternator since the charging system is not working at all and the dynamo is only 20 amps i think . |
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Jul 30, 2021 16:00:40 GMT
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Glenn , thank you for that kind offer , i this case our man kevin above sent me a load of lpg stuff , and a nice little vdo boost gauge , i am still trying to decide whether to just use it, or cut it open to fit my old face in it . here is is reading vac on the test run ,  it actually got down to -0.6 bar , which is -17.7" hg , and pretty good for 5 degrees static timing .(vac increases , up to a point , with more timing , i would expect this to need around 20 d for max vacuum.) |
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Jul 30, 2021 16:20:14 GMT
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Mine never pulls more than 23-25" on hard deceleration, cam on yours sounds a bit more aggressive though.
Sure that noise is coming from the engine and not the gearbox?
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2021 16:24:48 GMT by PhilA
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Jul 30, 2021 16:31:01 GMT
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No problem. It’s likely to still be here if you ever need it. 👍
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jul 30, 2021 16:48:06 GMT
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With regard to the noise its a job to tell on my rubbish phone but sounds a bit more like something in the valve train sticking?
Other than that it sounds quite lively for an olden!
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Jul 30, 2021 17:53:05 GMT
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With regard to the noise its a job to tell on my rubbish phone but sounds a bit more like something in the valve train sticking? Other than that it sounds quite lively for an olden! It certainly does sound lively, I would love to do something like that to my 2.4 MK2 Econojag, not sure where I would start though to be honest! |
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Jul 30, 2021 18:34:11 GMT
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Mine never pulls more than 23-25" on hard deceleration, cam on yours sounds a bit more aggressive though. Sure that noise is coming from the engine and not the gearbox? Deffo not sure Phil , it might be coming from the diff !  yes pk power is 5k so prob 10 to 15 degrees more duration than yours . No problem. It’s likely to still be here if you ever need it. 👍 Thanks Glenn With regard to the noise its a job to tell on my rubbish phone but sounds a bit more like something in the valve train sticking? Other than that it sounds quite lively for an olden! i agree GT , it does sound a bit like top end , however it is not constant, it comes and goes . and yes definitely PEPPY ! With regard to the noise its a job to tell on my rubbish phone but sounds a bit more like something in the valve train sticking? Other than that it sounds quite lively for an olden! It certainly does sound lively, I would love to do something like that to my 2.4 MK2 Econojag, not sure where I would start though to be honest! just get welding and find an old 2nd hand turbo off something |
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Jul 30, 2021 20:33:13 GMT
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Mine never pulls more than 23-25" on hard deceleration, cam on yours sounds a bit more aggressive though. Sure that noise is coming from the engine and not the gearbox? Deffo not sure Phil , it might be coming from the diff ! yes pk power is 5k so prob 10 to 15 degrees more duration than yours . Well, I say that because the gearbox is always turning at least the primary pump and first reduction gearset. Believe me there's plenty bits in there that can randomly rattle. One way is see if it goes away putting it in gear...? That'll load up the fluid coupling at least. |
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It does sound a bit like chain slap or a pulley bearing the way it dies off as the revs drop.
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Jul 31, 2021 21:00:49 GMT
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Seems no one wanted big saloons in 1962!  |
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that is a hell of a depreciation in 9 years !
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