glenanderson
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Aug 17, 2020 21:11:47 GMT
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It’s worth a try with the engine, while it’s in there and you’re still formulating a plan of attack. I wouldn’t want to invest too much time and effort though, and I’d certainly not want my comfy-womfy wafting “failing to proceed” in a cloud of steam. I spent more than was sensible, and likely double what I’ll get back, on getting my BMC engine running in the Austin, but the ability to move it made sense, and the engine does have some value of its own to sell on. I imagine the same will be true for the AS lump. Any idea whether a replacement block is an option? Are the engines used in anything else?
I’d suspect though, that the Jag powertrain would be a far better option in the long run.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Aug 17, 2020 21:19:35 GMT
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What about the block from the car in the scrap yard?
Edit, there is a block and crank on eBay for £25, no idea if it's even remotely the same though.
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Last Edit: Aug 17, 2020 21:20:53 GMT by VW
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Aug 17, 2020 22:47:54 GMT
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I would think a banger racing forum would turn up a spare motor or 2..
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mk2cossie
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Aug 17, 2020 23:58:17 GMT
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Well, this is a bit different from Medusa ivanhoew! I should really be asleep now, but I've just gone through the thread and bookmarked  Look forward to engine updates and developments tho |
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Robert - What headlights do you have on the car (if any) - I've found this one a Lucas PF770 with the Armstrong logo languishing in one of my Jupiter projects - it wont be getting refitted when I restore the car so its yours if you want it / retain for spare etc - happy to see go to good use -  i have these ones Chris,  and lower ones..  need a new chrome back , but i like em.. so at the mo i am ok , thank you very much for the offer , very generous !  regads robert |
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It’s worth a try with the engine, while it’s in there and you’re still formulating a plan of attack. I wouldn’t want to invest too much time and effort though, and I’d certainly not want my comfy-womfy wafting “failing to proceed” in a cloud of steam. I spent more than was sensible, and likely double what I’ll get back, on getting my BMC engine running in the Austin, but the ability to move it made sense, and the engine does have some value of its own to sell on. I imagine the same will be true for the AS lump. Any idea whether a replacement block is an option? Are the engines used in anything else? I’d suspect though, that the Jag powertrain would be a far better option in the long run. Indeedy , its a case of energy /money spent versus rewards given , so i will do a minimal bit of AS engine stuff ,then flip to the jag if not successful. What about the block from the car in the scrap yard? Edit, there is a block and crank on eBay for £25, no idea if it's even remotely the same though. no engines down the scrappy vw , the one on ebay is a different model,thank you for looking though |
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The TemptressDeleted
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Aug 18, 2020 10:18:16 GMT
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Robert - What headlights do you have on the car (if any) - I've found this one a Lucas PF770 with the Armstrong logo languishing in one of my Jupiter projects - it wont be getting refitted when I restore the car so its yours if you want it / retain for spare etc - happy to see go to good use - i have these ones Chris, and lower ones.. need a new chrome back , but i like em.. so at the mo i am ok , thank you very much for the offer , very generous ! regads robert Robert - The upper ones are the larger / late Lucas PF770 headlamps - originals are very, very expensive - as fitted to the Jupiter / XK120 etc  My client had the backs on his resilvered (I can find out where if you need to know) |
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Aug 18, 2020 12:14:05 GMT
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OH NO ! don't tell me i bought something expensive,,,by accident !!  darn it , i may well take you up on the info for the silvering chris , my plan was to take another modern light apart and adapt the back to these lights . |
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brc76
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Aug 18, 2020 12:29:01 GMT
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Out of sheer curiosity, I had to look at the cost of the lights.
I paid less for my entire engine and gearbox for the Mercedes than the used cost for one of those lights. wow.
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The TemptressDeleted
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Aug 18, 2020 12:34:39 GMT
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Out of sheer curiosity, I had to look at the cost of the lights. I paid less for my entire engine and gearbox for the Mercedes than the used cost for one of those lights. wow. There are available for a lot less money has a pattern part probably reproduced in the Far East - but the originals are a bend over the counter Sir job  |
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glenanderson
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Aug 18, 2020 13:09:07 GMT
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Depending on priorities, condition, refurbishment costs etc. it might be worth considering selling the P700 units and replacing them with a pair of modern 7” ones.
Anyway, I digress; is it running yet?
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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brc76
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Aug 18, 2020 15:03:04 GMT
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yes, apologies for the tangent!
Carry on as normal.
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Aug 18, 2020 19:59:57 GMT
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shish kebab !
well after a fair bit of effort i got it to move about another 2mm , poxy poxster , so i have built a plate and spacers ,and bolted it down on top of the no2 piston and left it over night ,also got some SEA FOAM DC-14 DEEP CREEP LUBRICANT spray coming , also going to get a new blowtorch cannister tomorrow.
Lets see how it likes that !
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glenanderson
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Aug 18, 2020 20:41:43 GMT
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Assuming the crack is because of a coolant freeze; could said freeze also have distorted the block enough to make the crank tight in its journals?
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Assuming the crack is because of a coolant freeze; could said freeze also have distorted the block enough to make the crank tight in its journals? I think probably not Glen , its a honking heavy huge cast block , the feww mm it does turn are free ,i suppose it could have spun and overlapped the shells , but bearing in mind its a stock bore with minimal bore wear , i am guessing its pretty good in there bearings wise ..time will tell . I Am curious about how a 1955 car could have only done 20k-50k miles, or so it looks from the wear ..Also it appears the pale green on the car is primer , and its been blasted , hence the little bits of surface rust ,,so that's a load of work i wont have to do . Today i get at it with the blowtorch and the deep Kreep , and see if it budges ,if not i'm off down the scrappy to scrounge bits. regards robert |
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glenanderson
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My guess:
Purchased new by someone elderly who seldom used it, or as a high status “special occasions” vehicle. Laid up in the early 70s because of the oil crisis and not sold because by then its value was too low and the owner had room in the garage to just leave it. Bought cheaply another decade or two later by someone with big ideas and small pockets/limited abilities/insufficient resources/unforeseen circumstances, who got out of their depth but wouldn’t admit it and hung on to the car until something finally triggered a sale...
Then you. 😃👍
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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You missed out plague, pestilence, famine and war ... |
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Aug 20, 2020 19:00:04 GMT
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Well no luck with the goop , or the blowtorch , it was too windy to keep it alight , so i naffed aaawwffff down the scrappy . First bit i got was this ..  this is a rusty version of the outer sill , that bolts with rubber to the chassis , and to the body , i am going to use it as a pattern to make two new ones , since the ones on the car are somewhat tired . then i chivvied these wing top side lights off ..  solid brass dontchaknow .. next the them on the blue chair of discipline , is a seat runner , this means i now have two , the better for to be after sliding the front bench seat backard n forrards . i then zipped off down the local petrol stn , and got a jug of petrol , why you ask ? to do this ..  a basic test to check the valve sealingnosity ...that above was after 10 seconds , below is after 20 secs..  i'd give that a "c -" in the grand school report of valves, a bit of regrinding , and maybe a touch of porting may just occur .. looking in the inlet ports from the manifold face ,you can just about see the flow path ..  looks a bit like a turbo A series metro engine. something to bear in mind is , with this type of inlet , each cylinder is not only sucking on the little 32mm carb adjacent to it , it is also ,if a twin carb engine , able to suck on the other carb as well , so more flow than you might expect. If i am feeling really strong , i may flow bench it all . regards robert |
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ivangt6
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Aug 21, 2020 17:20:10 GMT
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Would love to see that old engine running again. Bet it sounds great
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1979 Mini 1000
1972 Triumph GT6
2007 VW Golf GTi
1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive
1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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Aug 21, 2020 19:23:30 GMT
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Me too Ivan . ORL ROIGHY.. had a bit of a go at the head today , firstly i found a date stamp ..  which was exciting ! then popped out the leakiest cylinders valves , gave em a clean ..you can see the problem on the exhaust valve ..  i spppoffed the valve in the lathe of lovelyness , and brought it down to solidarity , a bit thin on the edge , which i rounded off ,and it's ground in well , as did the inlet ..  now onto my observations re the head port design ,which can best be summed up by two words ,,and these are .. BLOODY HELL !!!!!! compared the a p5b 3.5 lite rover v8 , these ports are roughly 3 times the size ! its a mega flowtastic monster of portfullness . have a dekko .. exhaust..   inlet ,bit difficult to show..   very nice short side radius and general seat to port blending . i suspected this from the power curve , lots of flow and a very short duration cam , to give a broader than normal power band , pk trq 194 lbs ft at 2k , and pk 150 bhp at 5k , is not normal . more valve work next , oh i may have slightly improved the ports while i was there regards robert |
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