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I had a pinto cam belt look worse than that after about 15k, put it down to the idler pulley as it kept running to the back of the pulleys. Changed the idler and a new belt and it ran perfectly central.
Can't actually think of why it did that as I fitted the first belt (it was a decent one) and the previous one had run central on the pulleys.
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Is the belt not going around the pulleys the correct way? Looks slack around the water pump pulley.
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Is it routed wrong? doesn’t look like much engagement on the waterpump.... google says that’s right (though it was in Russian or something ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ) Is the timing out by a tooth then?
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Is the belt not going around the pulleys the correct way? Looks slack around the water pump pulley. Belts on the right way......but yes, it is slack...very slack.. ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?
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Is it routed wrong? doesn’t look like much engagement on the waterpump.... google says that’s right (though it was in Russian or something ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ) Is the timing out by a tooth then? It's all routed correctly and incredibly, it hasn't jumped a tooth. But, as austinpowers and yourself say, it is slack around the water pump.....but why?
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Water pump from a different motor?
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Water pump from a different motor? No......water pump is the correct one. It's a tricky one to spot...even I had to look twice. I'll give you a clue......there's something missing.
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Jun 14, 2020 10:21:49 GMT
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Is there something missing on the crankshaft pulley.
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Jun 14, 2020 11:03:54 GMT
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I know nothing about these, is there a tensioner/idler missing from above the bet in-between the big cog and the water pump cog (see zero technical terms lol)
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jamesd1972
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Jun 14, 2020 11:39:49 GMT
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No tensioner at all or missing a pulley ? How did that not cause issues.... Better to find it now I suppose. James
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Last Edit: Jun 14, 2020 11:41:04 GMT by jamesd1972
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Jun 14, 2020 11:53:28 GMT
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Is there something missing on the crankshaft pulley. Sorry mate......still not right.
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Jun 14, 2020 11:56:36 GMT
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I know nothing about these, is there a tensioner/idler missing from above the bet in-between the big cog and the water pump cog (see zero technical terms lol) ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ........no, the tensioner and idler are still there.
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Jun 14, 2020 12:04:38 GMT
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No tensioner at all or missing a pulley ? How did that not cause issues.... Better to find it now I suppose. James The correct number of items are there.......there's just something missing from one of them. I shall reveal all a bit later. Yeah....once I realised what had happened, I found it unbelievable that the engine was still functional.....especially as at the time I'd just put 500 miles on it within that month.
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Jun 14, 2020 12:06:48 GMT
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Is the teeth different to the ones on the water pump. Wrong belt?
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Jun 14, 2020 12:15:39 GMT
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I had a pinto cam belt look worse than that after about 15k, put it down to the idler pulley as it kept running to the back of the pulleys. Changed the idler and a new belt and it ran perfectly central. Can't actually think of why it did that as I fitted the first belt (it was a decent one) and the previous one had run central on the pulleys. I had similar issues with a Pinto motor about 20 years ago. Only it was a case of the belt riding forward. I replaced the belt twice ( both times unipart items ) then 3rd time using a Gates belt.......and it still rode forwards. Cut a long story short, it turned out to be the Rally Design ( if I remember rightly ) vernier pulley that was fitted. I changed it back to standard and never did it again.
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Jun 14, 2020 12:17:15 GMT
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Is the teeth different to the ones on the water pump. Wrong belt? No mate......the belt is the correct one. This is fun!..........
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Jun 14, 2020 12:29:08 GMT
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I now know that the earlier ones only had the lower idler and the water pump was used to tension the belt. But yours has the tensioner in the top idler... so unless that isn’t working I don’t know But hopefully next weeks lockdown pub quiz will have questions on D24 cambelt arrangements, COD I’m going to kill it!! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Jun 14, 2020 12:42:46 GMT
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I now know that the earlier ones only had the lower idler and the water pump was used to tension the belt. But yours has the tensioner in the top idler... so unless that isn’t working I don’t know But hopefully next weeks lockdown pub quiz will have questions on D24 cambelt arrangements, COD I’m going to kill it!! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ..........I'll tell you what......your almost there! In fact, your 95% there I'd say. The tensioner is the top one......and it wasn't working. I'll string it out for a bit longer........
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Jun 14, 2020 14:09:33 GMT
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Has the idler belt wheel come off leaving just the bearing reducing the overall diameter ?
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Jun 14, 2020 15:17:34 GMT
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Has the idler belt wheel come off leaving just the bearing reducing the overall diameter ? Spot on!......feel free to wear a smug look on your face for the rest of the day.....or for however long you feel.
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