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Yippee! Got the bubble home from the bodyshop. Looks resplendent in its new coat of Hawaiian blue.    The first thing to do was unload all of the parts inside. The bodyshop had stripped the underside off to stone chip it, so i had the fuel tank, fuel and brake lines etc, plus any of the engine parts Mike didnt need for his Montego conversion. I pretty much dumped everything down the bottom of the garden and used the next few days to go through everything and sort whats what. After that i pulled out the manky old carpet, which was still damp even though this car has been inside for the best part of 6 months. I have a really good replacement from a Rover 25, which although is not identical, you would have to try very hard to spot the difference.  I removed the original sunroof assembly ready to install my better second hand replacement. But thats when i found a problem, the roof channels mentioned above that got resealed were rusty underneath. It was particularly bad at the offside rear with even a bit of filler coming through. So though i would rub it down and treat it. That did not work out very well at all. As soon as i touched it, it went right though. When i looked from the outside i could see it looking ominous. Only one thing for it, protect the new paint as best i could and used a dremel tool with a die grinder bit to grind away all of the filler and paint and rust until i was back to solid metal. Unfortunately that left me with a series of jagged holes. I tried to weld it up, and used a wet sponge to try and keep the heat down, but i quickly realised that wasnt going to work as the access was horrible and there was no way to accurately or neatly weld it without cutting a large section of the roof away. Not what you want to have to do on a freshly painted bodyshell. So i had to report to grinding it off as best i could and then using hydrate 80 rust killer, bonda zinc primer, fibreglass filler and then fine body filler. Once the black roof trims are refitted you wont see any of this and i havent damaged the paint, but it is annoying!!!     |
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eurogranada
Europe
To tinker or not to tinker, that is the question...
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Colour looks good on this! I liked your post but not the part about finding that rust....
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I've watched your build on You Tube and the thought of you trying to repair the gout in the rail made me wince, heat and paintwork don't play together nicely. Your solution isn't a bodge, you've done plenty to ensure that the rust is going to be slowed/stopped. If you treat the inside too that'll be fine. Your videos are brilliant, they show all of the reality of rebuilding cars.The BS and all, There's been a fair few times that i've done stuff on my cars over the years and thought' i bet no else goes through this curse word' Clearly they do, i'm glad it's not just me  |
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1980 Vauxhall Cavalier MK1
1970 Mobyleete 40T custom
1978 Mobylette 50V
1965 Moulton Standard
1979 Raleigh Grifter custom
1980 Raleigh Grifter
1982 Raleigh Grifter BMX custom
1982 Raleigh Bomber
1987 Strida
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I've watched your build on You Tube and the thought of you trying to repair the gout in the rail made me wince, heat and paintwork don't play together nicely. Your solution isn't a bodge, you've done plenty to ensure that the rust is going to be slowed/stopped. If you treat the inside too that'll be fine. Your videos are brilliant, they show all of the reality of rebuilding cars.The BS and all, There's been a fair few times that i've done stuff on my cars over the years and thought' i bet no else goes through this curse word' Clearly they do, i'm glad it's not just me Cheers buddy. You wait and see what i discovered in my new 'blasted and powder coated' subframe, only after i fitted it GRRRRRR. |
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Missed this, looks really good (except the rust) Will look out for more updates  |
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Here is a video of initial progress
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I’ve liked your vlog, not sure if I should have done though  |
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Before i unloaded the car off the trailer i filled it with Dinitrol rust killer and cavity wax stuff. Used two whole tins and did pretty much everything from the front to the rear, including engine bay, chassis rails, doors, sunroof area and tailgate. Messy but satisfying.   My lame attempt at masking and catching all the run off  Whilst i still had good access around the car, i fitted my new carpet. I also fitted the centre arm rest thing, which required making a little bracket to hold it in properly as this is from a 220 couple rather than a mk3.  Fitted some much better rear lights, with decent seals and used Butyl sealer to make them waterproof  Then wheeled the car into the garage and stripped out the original front subframes.   Tried to do one of those trendy cool looking photos of shiny new parts ready to go on the car. Came out blurry. Lame.  Then began to dummy mount the whole lot in the front of the car. This is where i ran into problems. I had bought some replacement t16 front subframes, which had been blasted and powder coated and looked fantastic. That is until i i was underneath the car fitting the anti roll bar. I noticed a strange bulge and holes and realised that someone had blasted over a really obviously rotten area and the powder coated over it. Grrrrrrr So i had to take the subframe back out of the car to investigate. I did some surgery and very quickly found loads of rot. Water had got in between the pressings, caused corrosion, that had eaten away at the metal and caused a weird cake/biscuit build up of oxide. MEGA BALLS So i had to cut it all out, and then rebuild it in two layers like original. The only good thing is that it is all quite thick steel, so i was able to lay down some thick seams of weld and get really good penetration.#        |
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Jul 11, 2020 11:39:22 GMT
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I'm never amazed at what others will consider acceptable to hide under paint / surface coverings - but is somewhat bloody annoying  |
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Jul 13, 2020 18:34:48 GMT
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Watched that subframe fiasco unfold, that and the front calipers shows that some people clearly have no scruples.
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1980 Vauxhall Cavalier MK1
1970 Mobyleete 40T custom
1978 Mobylette 50V
1965 Moulton Standard
1979 Raleigh Grifter custom
1980 Raleigh Grifter
1982 Raleigh Grifter BMX custom
1982 Raleigh Bomber
1987 Strida
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Jul 17, 2020 20:16:59 GMT
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Watched that subframe fiasco unfold, that and the front calipers shows that some people clearly have no scruples. I'm never actually sure if they are out to con people or if its an honest mistake. I hoe its the latter. Either way its very annoying. |
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Jul 18, 2020 18:37:03 GMT
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Watched that subframe fiasco unfold, that and the front calipers shows that some people clearly have no scruples. I'm afraid this is so true, I bought a pair of callipers off ebay a few weeks back that were advertised as recently rebuilt and ready to fit. When they arrived the pistons were seized solid and the brake fluid inside was rusty so they clearly hadn't been touched for years, the seller then admitted that he didn't know that they had been rebuilt and then proceeded to e-mail me a torrent of abuse about what did I expect for what I paid and if you can afford one of those cars you can afford to stand the loss. Eventually e-bay stepped in and I got my money back but it does reinforce that some people are just scumbags. |
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Jul 20, 2020 20:47:35 GMT
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Watched that subframe fiasco unfold, that and the front calipers shows that some people clearly have no scruples. I'm afraid this is so true, I bought a pair of callipers off ebay a few weeks back that were advertised as recently rebuilt and ready to fit. When they arrived the pistons were seized solid and the brake fluid inside was rusty so they clearly hadn't been touched for years, the seller then admitted that he didn't know that they had been rebuilt and then proceeded to e-mail me a torrent of abuse about what did I expect for what I paid and if you can afford one of those cars you can afford to stand the loss. Eventually e-bay stepped in and I got my money back but it does reinforce that some people are just scumbags. Thats crazy, what a cnut! |
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Jul 20, 2020 20:59:47 GMT
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This project is kicking me in the balls. Keep buying stuff and none of it fits. Stuff like turbo fittings where stuff is either m12 x 1.25 instead of 7/16" UNF etc etc etc. Got the engine loaded up, transported to mine and then fitted the gearbox. Wait that sounded awfully easy eh? Well it wasnt. My nice shiny new lightened flywheel turned out to be for a normally aspirated t16, so my turbo clutch wouldnt fit. So i just reused the original. I'm not actually that fussed. I had a lightened flywheel in a bmw in the past. Didnt make much difference and actually it wasnt balanced very well and just gave a nasty vibration at about 2700 rpm. Fitted new seals to teh gearbox, and cleaned it up, but thats about all really. It is a genuine turbo box with a torsen-A LSD. I have a brand new Torsen-B, but i thought id wait and see how this box is before i bother stripping it. I was supplied a load of bolts for the box from a very knowledgeable chap and most were spot on. It was just a bit of a puzzle getting them all in the right place along with the various engine mounts and bracketry. Surprisingly complicated!    Ive fitted a T28 turbo from my Nissan S14 rather than the standard T25. To get it to fit you have to rotate the compressor housing, which meant you need to remount the actuator. Then it becomes a pain. I got fed up and decided to buy a Forge actuator. It hasnt arrived yet. Hence no photo. |
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Man alive, that is some impressive work, Jim. I'm loving seeing this come together. The quality of the paintwork is excellent, too. I think my 800 will definitely be going to Mike when the time comes.
I have to ask, the stainless coolant lines - how expensive is expensive, and do you know if it's possible to get more? I need that for mine.
Chris
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Man alive, that is some impressive work, Jim. I'm loving seeing this come together. The quality of the paintwork is excellent, too. I think my 800 will definitely be going to Mike when the time comes. I have to ask, the stainless coolant lines - how expensive is expensive, and do you know if it's possible to get more? I need that for mine. Chris I think I paid around £200 for all three (Bottom chunky one not shown in my photos). But people are asking around £300 now and getting it. The top little thin pipe you can still buy from rimmer brothers. If you need one I’d buy one now while they are still available. |
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cjj
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Maybe my reasons are back to front, but I always think when people use black engine paint "how will you spot any oil leaks?". I'm more likely to do something brighter/lighter so I can spot the slightest weep  |
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2020 19:51:15 GMT by cjj
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Maybe my reasons are back to front, but I always think when people use black engine paint "how will you spot any oil leaks?". I'm more likely to do something brighter/lighter so I can spoke the slightest weep Your right. When I used to work for a race car company, all the blocks and space frames were white for exactly that reason. However, I hate cleaning and detailing so it’s staying black 😃 |
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Pressed out the old wheel bearings from the front hub units and replaced with new ones. Handy having a massive press at work. What is less handy is failing to understand how the bearings work and no supporting the new one on refitting it so that i buggered it up. Mega fail. Had to buy a new one. All done now though.   Also finally got my poly front arb mounts for the larger 25 mm antiroll bar.  |
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