mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 9:17:14 GMT
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Sooo manifolds... according to the internet you just swap the manifolds left to right. Then rather than point backwards they point forward... Whack a turbo on make boost do skids happy days... Well I can confirm the internet is wrong... Flipping them like that would work if you don't need a alternator a power steering pump or an oil filter...  perfect. Haha. I planned on running and electric power steering pump so that's no bother, the alternator I have a small denso one in my spares box I can use so maybe I can sort that. But the oil filter is kinda critical so plan b, modify them... Now also according to the internet all 1uzfe come with tubular manifolds.. perfect. Il chop them a bit tweak them a bit make them work.. well I can confirm the internet is wrong again as mine are 100000% cast... Excellent  Now I've seen you can use tundra ones from the states or even make log manifolds but what I really needed was a set of tubular manifolds cheaply. The kind that come on a vvti... so I can alter them were needed. Now looking on eBay the going rate is about 100 quid a pair.. now I'm tight at best of times so thought I'd have an ask round... Few calls later and it would apear I have another 1uzfe but this time a vvti complete with tubular manifolds... The car had been stood a long time (in the sea looking at the corrosion on the ally) and had apparently put a leg out of bed but I didn't care. It was complete I could pilfer it for parts and more importantly it had the right manifolds..  Whip that one out and success. Correct tubular manifolds.its also got a massive hole in sump so does appear to have thrown a rod (I may have a look into why at a later date) Chopped the huge stupid triangular flanges off the manifolds and hurray something I can work with.  Quick scour on eBay for some flanges, was going to use vbands but couldn't find owt I was happy with that was right size and in mild steel.. settled on these    The observant amongst you will have noticed the manifold won't fit upto the head on the alternator side without surgery. That's using the dinky little denso unit. Using the stock alternator that is twice the size it's even less close.. hmmm methinks it's time to put engine in car and see what clearance is like on chassis leg. And look at maybe moving alternator....tbc |
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 10:00:57 GMT
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So if anyone is still here and not bored/asleep/fed up of my random waffling and mixed up photos il continue... Got to the stage where I couldn't do anymore without the engine being in the car... So decided that was next step. However since my garage now looks like a 1uz graveyard I didn't have space to start pulling the engine inside.. looks like it's coming out on drive (perfect)  Couple hours spanner time and it's out  Quick clean up with the tfr and a stiff brush and it was time to fill the empty bay with something slightly more substantial  Now once it was in I remembered how little room there was. Much swearing wrestling and confusion later and I'd settled on a location for the turbo (going for the driver's side as I can run the drain straight down into the unused level sender in sump) and the alternator.. was going to take a bit of special bracketery but I was sure I could make it work.    Took loads of measurements and plenty of photos of were the turbo needed to live. Were the alternator needs to live. Then pulled the engine back out ready to make a manifold link pipe.. I have genuinely no idea how I'm going to get a 3.5 inch exhaust from the front out of the bay to the back.. but il jump off that bridge when I come to it |
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Sept 13, 2019 10:51:38 GMT
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crazy barsteward
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 11:17:12 GMT
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alx
Club Retro Rides Member
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Sept 13, 2019 11:25:31 GMT
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Excellent start to a thread. Bookmarked. You Sir have just the right amount of mental  AL. |
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 11:40:36 GMT
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Were nearly up to date now nearly sort of.. So engine out and onto the bench (that hydraulic table is the best thing I've ever had for free haha).. I now need to make a link pipe to go between both banks up to a t4 flange, that will sit the turbo exactly we're I want it to from the photos and measurements I've got. my initial plan was to bolt the flange to the turbo then make a bracket that held the flange in situ, remove the turbo, make the pipes jobs jobbed. However, that turbo weighs 16kg, it's an awquard shape and needs to be tucked in tight to the engine in a set orientation if there's any chance of it clearing the slam panel etc.. I attempted to hold it in place whilst tacking a bracket and lining everything up and was thoroughly unsuccessful. Back to drawing board....tried stripping turbo down so I'd just got the exhaust housing still couldn't do it.. Bit of lateral thinking and I give you the patent pending turbo positioning jig MK2.8 haha. Engine on the hydraulic trolley so I can alter the height, turbo housing strapped to the antique engine crane to set the angle. Roll the two together bobs your aunties husband.. turbo sat were it needs to be with both my hands free and no blood shed. Result!   With turbo sat were it needs to i knocked up some horrific angle iron brackets just to hold the flange where it needs to live so I could remove the engine crane with nothing moving.. happy days  Turbo off and now time to make the link pipes |
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 11:42:26 GMT
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Excellent start to a thread. Bookmarked. You Sir have just the right amount of mental AL. Is there ever a right amount of mental.. is a turbo ever too big.... Is an engine bay ever too small.... All valid questions to be answered soon haha |
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 12:32:14 GMT
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Question. When is a zafira 2.2 diesel exhaust not a zafira 2.2 diesel exhaust??  Now I don't mind paying for things if there is no other way round it.. but one thing that bugs me is how much pre formed exhaust bends cost.. 15 quid for one 90 degree bend is ridiculous in my eyes. Plus you never end up with exactly the angle you need when you order a 45degree and need a 55degree etc. One thing I've done in the past is use random car exhausts, to reuse the bends I've needed assuming there right diameter. So when I got a call off my dad saying he was scrapping a new one off a Zafira, that was a smidge over 2 inch I shot round and picked it up.. turns out its bang on right diameter to marry up to the existing manifolds. Almost like a sign haha. Half an hour with the 1mm slitting discs and I had a pile of usable bends and straights for the grand sum of free. My favourite price my mate also eyed it up to make an exhaust for his car so I priced one up from a freindly local factors. As expected cheaper than buying a few bends £19 + vat brand new! Anyways il stop waffling and show you were I'm up to.. pics should explain what I've done just got a couple of welds on the left hand bank to do. Pretty happy with how it's turned out.    I'm still undecided on wether to bother with a Flexi in the long pipe. And I need to remake the bracket in something nicer to help take some of the weight of the turbo (I don't doubt it could support it but I'm always a bit belt and braces).. Think I'm nearly up to date with were I'm at project wise. Luckily the majority of the difficult stuff is nearly there now.. |
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Sept 13, 2019 12:51:55 GMT
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Mad as a box of frogs! I'm in
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-(
10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily
03 Import Forester STi - Sold
98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-(
99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold
02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX
88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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Sept 13, 2019 17:36:02 GMT
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Love everything about this, only thing better then a V8 is a turbo'd V8
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Sept 13, 2019 20:17:01 GMT
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Is that it so far? 😀
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 20:45:22 GMT
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No not quite.. had another hour tonight.. completely finished all the welding on the link pipe and all the manifolds.. all flanges are on permenantly so just need to tidy the bracket up.. My welding is definitely getting better although most of it will be hidden under heatwrap once it's done  That's about it for now. Maybe a small update tomorrow if I can get an hour in garage |
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Sept 13, 2019 21:03:00 GMT
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Engine wise similar to mine. Have you uprated the internals, as you will pushing around 2 bar boost when the turbo finally spools up.
I did look into the HX50 as they were good value compared to the HX35 but ended up with a Garrett. Spooled up by 3500 rpm and was getting over 17 psi of boost.
Enjoy the build.
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“It Doesn’t Feel Pity, Or Remorse, Or Fear, And It Absolutely Will Not Stop, Ever, Until You Are Dead!”
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mat88
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Sept 13, 2019 21:07:42 GMT
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Stock internals and only planning on running relatively low boost until everything I've done is proven.. MLS head gaskets and ARP studs are on my list tho. Couldn't not have the hx50 for what it cost so will soldier on.. if I explode the engine I've a ready supply for another one to build.
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Sept 13, 2019 21:27:25 GMT
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ARP bolts you need are from the Toyota 4AGE engine, 2 set. The non VVti engine will handle a fair amount of boost aslong as the mixture/timing is spot on.
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“It Doesn’t Feel Pity, Or Remorse, Or Fear, And It Absolutely Will Not Stop, Ever, Until You Are Dead!”
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v8
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Sept 14, 2019 7:28:15 GMT
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Car scrubbed up great  Really interesting build, can't wait for the updates! |
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stealthstylz
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Sept 14, 2019 9:40:53 GMT
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Looks like a great build. Make the exhaust as big as you can fit even if it means making oval tubing. I recently made a system for a 2JZ Supra with a HX50 and got a 5" downpipe and 4" CSA exhaust in. Spooled 850rpm sooner than with the custom 4" DP/3.5" system that was on it before a huge difference to driveability. It's enough to feel a big difference in the car which on a 800hp engine means it's a fair power increase.
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Sept 14, 2019 12:55:22 GMT
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This is freakin' great. The car looks amazing but what I am fascinated by is the use of the 1UZFE engines. I will be checking in on this thread to watch it progress because I have used a 1UZfe in the past, but left the wiring and auto box stock with mixed results.
I have plans to use this engine again- so watching this build I am learning a few things! Great write up, great pics. Crack on then- Wizard!
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2019 15:37:10 GMT by grenade
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sonus
Europe
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Sept 14, 2019 14:17:27 GMT
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This thread had me checking the local used car webside for IS200s 😁👍
Looking forward to the updates!
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cdwood2010
Part of things
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Sept 14, 2019 15:14:34 GMT
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Nice thread.
Bookmarked.
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perfect. Haha. I planned on running and electric power steering pump so that's no bother, the alternator I have a small denso one in my spares box I can use so maybe I can sort that. But the oil filter is kinda critical so plan b, modify them...
