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Mercedes S124 200TE

urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jun 28, 2019 13:42:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I thought it may be a good idea to put this up. I have bought it as a daily knowing it was not perfect but it turned out to be a little bit worse than I expected. I wanted it to become a retro daily but it turned out to be a "garage queen" (I drove it to the garage and it stayed there ever since, not for polishing, sadly). When I bought it I knew it had a blown head gasket but this turned out to be the least of my worries. Rust on the other hand turned out to be the party killer. Below I will list some of the work done, not everything as it would take far too long. The aim is not to have it 100% perfect but to have it solid and usable. I want it to be strong and solid. Sills are just as bad and interior needs a little bit of love too. One of the pillars, one vent and driver's seat are all in a need of some serious attention. I need to say that the car is in fairly good condition for the age. The first/second owner really took a good care of it. Just shame about all the rust.
	Last Edit: May 26, 2020 12:56:18 GMT by urbanaw

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dikkehemaworst Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 1,637 Club RR Member Number: 16	Mercedes S124 200TE dikkehemaworst @dikkehemaworst Club Retro Rides Member 16
	Jun 28, 2019 15:51:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	brave man!! repairing one with so many available!! labour of love!! thanks for sharing


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jun 29, 2019 18:27:04 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jun 28, 2019 15:51:25 GMT dikkehemaworst said: brave man!! repairing one with so many available!! labour of love!! thanks for sharing Yes, it's a mix of a few factors. First of all most of them will have some rust. If I repair it I'll known what's been done. Plus I'll learn a lot. I think these old mercs deserve the time. They are magnificent cars. Greg


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jun 29, 2019 18:30:12 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Another day another hole.. I am not sure whether pictures will work. If not I will add some at home.


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carat 3.6 Posted a lot Posts: 1,295	Mercedes S124 200TE carat 3.6 @carat36amg
	Jun 29, 2019 19:47:54 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Looks about right for a s124, what's the rear subframe mounts like?
	1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car

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motardman Part of things Posts: 283	Mercedes S124 200TE motardman @motardman
	Jul 1, 2019 12:02:29 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Bookmarked. I just bought Chas' S124. No body issues so far, but time will tell. ChasR took good care of the car, and I want to make sure i keep it that way. You are right about the wonderment in these, swapping into my wifes modern Mercedes after the S124 is a reminder about how far Mercedes threw the ball, not dropped it!


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 1, 2019 15:01:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jun 29, 2019 19:47:54 GMT carat 3.6 said: Looks about right for a s124, what's the rear subframe mounts like? One side is fine (got there in time as the stone protection / under seal was pierced and it was only a matter of time before it would go) and the other side was done in the past so I am good on both sides. I have to say that the stone protection / under seal caused just as many problems as it saved the car from. There were many areas where it got pierced and rust spread under/above it. And then when it got bad/big enough to make a hole water traveled in the body work and caused havoc unseen. I will show some pics in the next posts. Greg
	Last Edit: Apr 29, 2020 15:46:40 GMT by urbanaw

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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 1, 2019 15:10:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	And here you can see the progress. Once these areas are done I will move forward to the front jacking points and up to rear windows. So far I checked all drains and they seem to work OK. For some reason this is one job I am dreading. Greg This corner will require a lot of work to fabricate two skins. The only part that I bought ready is the arch. And here, a little bit more of the same. This is where water travelled inside the body work (just as it did on the other side) after entering the body in the arch above.


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 1, 2019 15:18:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I am looking for plastic clip replacements for sill covers. Mainly for the bits of cladding that go on the rear arches. Would anyone here be able to help me with finding some? Greg
	Last Edit: Jul 1, 2019 16:27:46 GMT by urbanaw

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carat 3.6 Posted a lot Posts: 1,295	Mercedes S124 200TE carat 3.6 @carat36amg
	Jul 1, 2019 22:01:46 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 1, 2019 15:18:13 GMT urbanaw said: I am looking for plastic clip replacements for sill covers. Mainly for the bits of cladding that go on the rear arches. Would anyone here be able to help me with finding some? Greg You can get pattern versions on ebay, I've used alot of those on my rebuild without issue. Or take one into the dealer to match up.
	Last Edit: Jul 1, 2019 22:04:18 GMT by carat 3.6 1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car

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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 2, 2019 10:14:15 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 1, 2019 22:01:46 GMT carat 3.6 said: Jul 1, 2019 15:18:13 GMT urbanaw said: I am looking for plastic clip replacements for sill covers. Mainly for the bits of cladding that go on the rear arches. Would anyone here be able to help me with finding some? Greg You can get pattern versions on ebay, I've used alot of those on my rebuild without issue. Or take one into the dealer to match up. For some reason I was not able to find any on ebay. Now that you said this was where you got them from I tried again and "voilà". Thanks


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 2, 2019 10:17:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 1, 2019 12:02:29 GMT motardman said: Bookmarked. I just bought Chas' S124. No body issues so far, but time will tell. ChasR took good care of the car, and I want to make sure i keep it that way. You are right about the wonderment in these, swapping into my wifes modern Mercedes after the S124 is a reminder about how far Mercedes threw the ball, not dropped it! Nice machine. I looked up the "build" thread. She seems to be well looked after and definitely quite solid. I like her a lot, I do prefer the earlier models though, ideally the earliest ones without the cladding. I always fancied an early 3.0/2.5d auto in saloon form.


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motardman Part of things Posts: 283	Mercedes S124 200TE motardman @motardman
	Jul 2, 2019 14:26:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I've a confession to make. I've had the old, pre cladding ones. I actually prefer the earlier looks, the bull nose bonnet especially. What I love about this particular car, is the M104 and 5 speed. Not a fan of the saloons though, the Wagon is so much more versatile with very few drawbacks over the saloon. In a perfect World, I'd probably have this wagon, and a 500E.


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 3, 2019 13:35:10 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 2, 2019 14:26:43 GMT motardman said: I've a confession to make. I've had the old, pre cladding ones. I actually prefer the earlier looks, the bull nose bonnet especially. What I love about this particular car, is the M104 and 5 speed. Not a fan of the saloons though, the Wagon is so much more versatile with very few drawbacks over the saloon. In a perfect World, I'd probably have this wagon, and a 500E. I do love how versatile the wagon is but I just prefer looks of saloon models. Early 2.5 or 3.0d auto would hit the spot. Some of them with oxblood interiors look really appealing. 500E or the E60 AMG would also hit the spot, I must admit. You cannot beat a good V8.


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carat 3.6 Posted a lot Posts: 1,295	Mercedes S124 200TE carat 3.6 @carat36amg
	Jul 3, 2019 15:21:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 3, 2019 13:35:10 GMT urbanaw said: You cannot beat a good V8. OM606
	1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car

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motardman Part of things Posts: 283	Mercedes S124 200TE motardman @motardman
	Jul 3, 2019 15:26:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 3, 2019 15:21:41 GMT carat 3.6 said: Jul 3, 2019 13:35:10 GMT urbanaw said: You cannot beat a good V8. OM606 Like the man said, you cannot beat a good V8.


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 4, 2019 14:45:37 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 3, 2019 15:21:41 GMT carat 3.6 said: Jul 3, 2019 13:35:10 GMT urbanaw said: You cannot beat a good V8. OM606 I6s are good and I do love them. They surely beat all the V6s in the modern day junk as far as character goes. Still grant and sound of a V8 just makes me smile. It really does. I am not a big fan of Yank stuff I prefer the European V8s. They seem to be lighter, more revvy and more lively. But then again. I5s also are cool. You can almost feel/touch the torque in those. The only engines I truly dislike are I4s for some reason. Especially diesels, they all sound like old transits. No finesse, they rev ok and work ok in J bikes but that's about it. Even 3 pots are better in my opinion. Greg


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carat 3.6 Posted a lot Posts: 1,295	Mercedes S124 200TE carat 3.6 @carat36amg
	Jul 4, 2019 23:48:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jul 4, 2019 14:45:37 GMT urbanaw said: Jul 3, 2019 15:21:41 GMT carat 3.6 said: OM606 I6s are good and I do love them. They surely beat all the V6s in the modern day junk as far as character goes. Still grant and sound of a V8 just makes me smile. It really does. I am not a big fan of Yank stuff I prefer the European V8s. They seem to be lighter, more revvy and more lively. But then again. I5s also are cool. You can almost feel/touch the torque in those. The only engines I truly dislike are I4s for some reason. Especially diesels, they all sound like old transits. No finesse, they rev ok and work ok in J bikes but that's about it. Even 3 pots are better in my opinion. Greg You're dead right about euro v8's feeling lively, with the exception of the LS engine they don't call them "American iron" for no reason. I5 engines do make a gorgeous sound, I'm just finishing up a volvo t5 conversion for a customer and the howl from the open pipe is pure sex.
	1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car

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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Jul 16, 2019 23:32:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I haven't had much time lately. The seat has been recovered and two patches welded up. Some photos will follow shortly. Greg


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urbanaw Part of things Posts: 249 Club RR Member Number: 17	Mercedes S124 200TE urbanaw @urbanaw Club Retro Rides Member 17
	Aug 3, 2019 22:14:45 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Work is progressing slowly. A lot slower than I expected, anticipated (hoped) for. I have found more rust (unexpectedly?). New exhaust has been fitted together with one of the arches. Driver's side is almost done. Passenger side is 50% there too. Window edges and front jacking points will be next.


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