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Jun 27, 2019 21:17:51 GMT
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pics not working grizz... It battled to load the last separatepic. So it will hopefully correct itself I think it's good open to debate actually. Looks like it's been parked with a side to the rain with the carpet still in; it's gone on all the low spots which means the chassis should be sound- there's nothing under there for it to drip on, the chassis is further inboard. There really isn't anything complicated about the structure of the floor pan, pretty standard Fisher stuff. What's left looks to be pretty thin but where it's not been wet still has a fair bit of the original paint on. Expect it to leak worse than a series Landy. Just because it runs doesn't mean it's knocking it's bottom end off harder than a five dollar hooker, though. That's often overlooked. I forget if the '54 6 was full pressure lubrication? If it were closer I would go have a poke at it for you.. Phil Thanks Phil, It would have been great to have someone local take a look. Still, It will hopefully expose itself bit by bit. |
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Jun 27, 2019 23:17:25 GMT
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Well, just to get to Oklahoma from here is a 7 hour drive, and that's just to the state line...
"Local" bears a different definition here.
Phil
Edit: 1955 saw the six become fully pressure lubricated, by the way. (I think this is why Pontiac made a big thing of their engines being all pressure lubricated).
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2019 2:11:00 GMT by PhilA
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would a 6 suffice??
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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As a cruiser, a 6 is great. An 8 adds cost, and more complications that I am not sure I am interested in getting involved in. |
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Well, just to get to Oklahoma from here is a 7 hour drive, and that's just to the state line... "Local" bears a different definition here. Phil Edit: 1955 saw the six become fully pressure lubricated, by the way. (I think this is why Pontiac made a big thing of their engines being all pressure lubricated). Hi! Not fully lubricatet till 55?...I had a 1936 Chevy at work with that engine last year.knocking big ends....no engine rebuilder want(or can)it repair overhere....! This can be a problem .... Ford's sidevalve 226 has full pressure long befor....!  |
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65 'Ford Taunus 17m
66' Ford Taunus 17m Turnier
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63' Ford Taunus Transit 1250
72'Ford Escort 2000cc
71'Ford Escort 1700 4 door
89'Ford Escort Express
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Jun 28, 2019 18:52:44 GMT
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Bottom end is pressure fed but the gudgeons are spray-fed on the early fifties Chev sixes from the oil gallery pressure line.
Does have the advantage of coating the underside of the pistons and keeping them cool though.
It wasn't a design intended for long distance, high RPM cruising, which is why by the late fifties every manufacturer had addressed their designs because Eisenhower's interstate system was becoming well established.
Phil
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2019 18:53:07 GMT by PhilA
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Jun 28, 2019 19:02:52 GMT
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Tihe Okie car looks very salvageable.
Yeah, bit of rust in the floors, but easily fixable.
Still running 6volt, but you're probably going to rewire it anyway, so easy to convert to 12volt.
Go for it!
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Jun 28, 2019 19:30:48 GMT
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Bottom end is pressure fed but the gudgeons are spray-fed on the early fifties Chev sixes from the oil gallery pressure line. Does have the advantage of coating the underside of the pistons and keeping them cool though. It wasn't a design intended for long distance, high RPM cruising, which is why by the late fifties every manufacturer had addressed their designs because Eisenhower's interstate system was becoming well established. Phil Me, Being the non engineer, non mechanic type Phil. Does this engine and transmission system promise to give me hell, or self destruct ASAP? If you look at the spec sheet, it promises in 1954 to push along at 87 mph. Should one replace its guts, or will it cruise and carry on nicely?? |
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2019 19:31:11 GMT by grizz
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Jun 28, 2019 19:31:07 GMT
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That first car is a heap . Thats 1 year away from bloomming into rusty scabs and a mammoth amount if not worth it welding .
As said , better available , even if it was £750 its still a bad call .
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Jun 28, 2019 19:42:40 GMT
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The six is an unstressed, big chunk of iron.
Push 'em along at 65 all day with no maintenance and you're asking for trouble. Pootle at 45-55 and it'll last forever. Much like forties and fifties UK designs, they were not designed nor built for constant, high-RPM use.
Don't forget, you are working with the same era of car as mine- design requirements were something that would start easily, be simple to build and maintain, run smoothly (hence why America loved sixes at the time) and run on any old curse word you could stick in the tank. Large suspension travel for unpaved roads, comfy seats with lots of springing (same reason) and enough power to get you there so long as you weren't that much of a hurry.
If you're willing to accept those parameters you'll be good. They're reliable engines, but they can also tolerate an insane amount of neglect and abuse. They don't really go bang, they just start to rattle and clunk. If it's fairly tight with moderate oil pressure you should be good. Does it have an oil pressure gauge? I think they run in the 20-30psi range cold. It's wartime engineering still.
Keep the oil changed, keep an eye on the water and they go on for a long time.
--Phil
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2019 19:43:38 GMT by PhilA
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Jun 28, 2019 21:18:39 GMT
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Was looking more closely at the photos Andy sent. Engine bay, air cleaner not there, the size and filling caps of the 6 volt system (is a 6volt system a problem) Funny how you can miss stuff the first time around, and the second and third time. Realised in this pic........  Something important is missing. Could it be important, costly? . . |
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Last Edit: Jun 29, 2019 3:39:26 GMT by grizz
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Ohhhh, and a spec sheet for the car compared to the real estate to Blazer takes up. Basically the biggest concern to me now, is how much space it takes up, going down the side of the house in reverse.  Compared to the Blazer  Not a lot in it, longer, but narrower by 4” or 100mm The length I can manage, only just. . |
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Last Edit: Jun 29, 2019 3:53:57 GMT by grizz
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Kerb feelers.
Also, yes. Didn't see that missing first time round either. Tanks are probably available.
What else is missing?
Phil
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Kerb feelers. Also, yes. Didn't see that missing first time round either. Tanks are probably available. What else is missing? Phil Morning Phil Missing the Kerb Feelers reference. Part of the conversation with Andy below quoted. “Door posts look good. They bought it from a guy who bought it and drove it home. He said the fuel pump quit. Local guy and she trusts him. We could pour gas in and hear it start. For just a little more you could have my 48 long hood survivor car. ” So who knows. I know the seats are all just springs. |
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It should be easier going down the side of the house, it's 4 inches narrower than the Blazer, which has me thinking, will it fit on my drive.
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Not a lot in it, longer, but narrower by 4” or 100mm The length I can manage, only just. . aaaaaahhh.... now i get the avatar! |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Kerb feelers. Also, yes. Didn't see that missing first time round either. Tanks are probably available. What else is missing? Phil $160.00 -$200.00 for tanks. It may be in the car, but of course sometimes recommission means replace, rather than risk. These would be other stuff like brakes to rebuild etc. But part of my calculations behind the scene |
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Not a lot in it, longer, but narrower by 4” or 100mm The length I can manage, only just. . aaaaaahhh.... now i get the avatar! Indeed, that Avatar truely does illustrate the pleasure and pain in it all. |
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It should be easier going down the side of the house, it's 4 inches narrower than the Blazer, which has me thinking, will it fit on my drive. Will the Blazer fit your drive?? You know you want it to sit next to your Bel Air. As long as Mrs Timbo hands you back your 🎱🎱 ‘s in that little cardboard box. Go check it out. If not........ 1948 Chevrolet Stylemaster in my inventory may fit.   |
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