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Aug 23, 2018 14:22:48 GMT
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Hi folk, I am thinking of buying a used V70 Volvo 2.4 petrol, manual, ( High Pressure Turbo I believe, as it's 167 hp...) 2002, 160k.
I really need a big estate, now, for short local runs to the council tip etc, as mum has passed on and I need to clear the house.
Apart from the fact that it will obviously drink like a fish, are there any particular weak points I should look out for?
I will do all the fluids and filters etc of course, turbos like nice clean oil.
Thanks if anyone on here has had one and can give any tips I would be grateful.
Not exactly a retro ride but needs must, and it's cheap and local.
Mucho appreciado Jerry.
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Last Edit: Aug 23, 2018 14:29:07 GMT by jerrytug
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Aug 23, 2018 14:42:36 GMT
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Automatic boxes can be clunky - look for signs of a refresh of oil at that mileage. Should go from P to R to D without and clunks or bangs - changing freely.
I had an on T5 v70 ex police car for a while - it flew along.
Shouldnt drink like a fish - compared to a yaris maybe, but nothing major.
you can diy the gearbox change. bit of a faff but easy enough. Make sure you buy a new o ring if doing it - they all fail on the boxes when you remove the oil, which I think is from the top if I recall only.
Often have airbag lights on due to seat changes. other than that - bomb proof. Well mine was.
J
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Aug 23, 2018 16:33:54 GMT
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Don't buy an auto one and they are golden. P. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Aug 23, 2018 19:38:53 GMT
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All later Volvo auto gearboxes are made of chocolate so if it's auto it will break Apart from that all good (The earlier mk1 V70 T5 is better) come to think about it 167bhp don't sound like its a turbo but I could be wrong
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Thanks for the advice, guys, it's a manual gearbox, so will make an offer, cheers Jerry.
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All later Volvo auto gearboxes are made of chocolate so if it's auto it will break Apart from that all good (The earlier mk1 V70 T5 is better) come to think about it 167bhp don't sound like its a turbo but I could be wrong Nods, the auto's were 'sealed for life', life alegedly being 100k miles. But it's a Volvo.....
iirc, the 2.4 20valve job was 170bhp, so it won't be a turbo with that power level......
edit, 20v was 167-170 depending on year. Turbo ones start at 200.....
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Last Edit: Aug 24, 2018 8:37:00 GMT by paul99
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Aug 25, 2018 16:31:00 GMT
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Quite right, it's not a turbo, but it's still quick!
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Aug 27, 2018 15:13:11 GMT
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Did you buy it yet? I had a 2002 V70 T5 auto and now have a 1995 850 T5 manual, both really good all rounders. The later cars are more comfortable and refined, earlier ones more fun I'd say. That won't be a turbo as noted, but with a manual 'box they are very reliable. Have a look at the front lower wishbone bushes, joints and drop links are they are heavy on those and front tyres but aside from that not too much to worry about and run to very high mileages.
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Yes bought it, manual n/a. Very nice for a £700 old car, plenty of power, leather and lots of gadgets, but stodgy handling compared to my old Audi Avant. Thanks for the advice Jerry
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I was about to say while there may be an impression of manuals being bulletproof they do have their issues, or at least the later 5 pots have.
Our Mondeo 2.5T (read Focus ST/C30 T5 engine) had the concentric slave cylinder go. I'd be lying if I said I didn't know that the dual mass flywheel wasn't in its first flush of youth. It didn't chatter but it did lurch in town, almost like an engine mount was gone. It could be driven smoothly but only with patience and not much traffic behind you.
The bill for the above? £1.2k. £800 of that was for just the parts. IIRC for decent parts
Flywheel= £500 Clutch= £250-It's more than the one in the M3! Slave Cylinder=£60
It's not a job any indie can do either. It was super fiddly and TBH it came back to us with issues, all of which became apparent when I started removing things (Google Focus ST Airbox removal and you will see what I mean). They're deceptively cramped in the engine bay. A specialist would have known what can go wrong (in our case, the bleed hose to the rad had been snapped off before we bought the car it turned out and even a couple of mm difference in where the main coolant hose sat was the difference between it rubbing through on the gearbox linkage or clearly it completely. A specialist who has done a few would, well should know of these little things.
A V50 is just as bad under the bonnet.
Prior to that the 944's been the priciest clutch to change. They're £600 for just the clutch in parts and it takes just over a day to change a clutch in one. Ouch.
Bear in mind you'll only hear of the 'bad' autos too. It's one reason people join the forums. There are plenty out there with big numbers on. But maintenance on the 'box goes a long way as said.
Another thing is cambelts. It's about £300ish from a garage to get it done, but ensure it's done when it should be. IIRC 60k/6 years rings a bell on older Volvo engines.
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IIRC the 2.4 is the Low Pressure Turbo; 2.3 is the High Pressure unit (aka T5) - recently got a C70 T5 so been researching heavily. Ours is Auto and about 180k on the clock BUT having had the same owner for 15 years, he did get the auto fluid changed regularly. Cam belt is 90k/10 years - this one had just over 90k on this belt (changed now) and was just starting to show signs of age. One tensioner was grumbling though, and I changed the water pump at the same time as it also runs off the same belt.
It's got a stalling issue which I'm hoping is just the ETM needs a good cleaning (he wishes) and leaks boost like a sieve but still manages to pull 33psi boost at mid range (yes, it's been remapped) according to my OBDII App.
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Aug 30, 2018 11:12:21 GMT
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Thanks guys, food for thought..now give me the good news 😀
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Aug 30, 2018 12:49:23 GMT
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I've been looking at V70 P3 recently, possibly buying one from Sweden... and I'd hesitate between the 2.0F (Duratec 4-cylinder on ethanol, 145hp) and 2.5FT (Volvo 5-cylinder turbo on ethanol, 200 or 231hp). I'd get a somewhat low-mileage manual example, I like the simplicity of the 4-banger but I'm not sure it's wise not to take the nicer engine. Is the block mod really that necessary?? Anyhoo they're a tad too new for RR so here's a sexy pic for penance ![](https://www.heicosportiv.de/sites/default/files/media/Teaser%20-%20475x244/Modelle/Produktgruppe/HEICO_SPORTIV_model_exhaus_V70_T6_1.jpg)
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Aug 31, 2018 20:24:46 GMT
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On the V70 auto vs manual question - while some auto boxes have issues, others seem to go on and on regardless and those with issues are often sorted by flushing the fluid. I've just passed 200k on my XC70 auto and the box is sweet as a nut and that's nothing mileage compared with some autos on the Volvo forum. Everything else still works as well bar one headlight wiper. (You should join up - very knowledgeable bunch: www.volvoforums.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=7 ) Manuals seem to need a new clutch around the 130k mark and as Chas has mentioned, that can get very expensive. Pay your money, take your choice but I love the auto and it suits the car. Great motors, the V70.
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Thanks, I will join that forum.
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