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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 26, 2018 14:13:14 GMT
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Today I have been mostly making a PAS oil cooler for my Fiesta ST, when I got the car the PAS fluid was Black and after some research, I found that it's a common problem on the Mk6 ST.
So is there a solution and there is Ford and Mountune produce a PAS Oil Cooler that can bee fitted the ford cooler cost £150 - £180 if you can get one and the Mountune one is £99 including Vat. So being a resourceful Bu**er as my late farther would call me on occasion I set about making my own. I found a local Plumbers merchant that would supply me with 3m of 10mm copper tubing so for £8.53 that was purchased I also ordered some rubber sleeved P clips for mounting to the car. Then using a pipe bender tool I got for shaping brake pipes I shaped a 1500mm length as shown below. This brings us the the stage I'm at now, I want to fit compression joints with 8-9mm barbed tube ends on the opposite side to I can plumb it into the car's low pressure side of the PAS system and use jubilee clips to fix them.
Any one know of any plumbers that can help with that I asked at the suppliers where I had the tube from but they don't know of anything.
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Last Edit: Jun 26, 2018 14:17:35 GMT by peteh1969
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tristanh
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Jun 26, 2018 14:52:33 GMT
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Whether you believe you can, or you cannot, you're probably right.
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tristanh
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Jun 26, 2018 14:53:45 GMT
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Oh and try a Gas fitter or motorhome repair place. That's how I got them.
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Whether you believe you can, or you cannot, you're probably right.
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 26, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
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Thank you but the 10mm needs to be the compression fitting not 8mm.
I will still see what I can find.
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Jun 26, 2018 16:18:43 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 26, 2018 16:23:08 GMT by xbl
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 26, 2018 16:38:08 GMT
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that's an option I will have to look into it.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:36:29 GMT
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Could you not just put something like a big brake pipe flare on the copper to help keep a rubber pipe on? Also seem to remember making a radiator for a tractor and getting thousands of things like very thin washers that soldered to the pipe. Would make it cool a lot more.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:36:44 GMT
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Could you not just put something like a big brake pipe flare on the copper to help keep a rubber pipe on? Also seem to remember making a radiator for a tractor and getting thousands of things like very thin washers that soldered to the pipe. Would make it cool a lot more.
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 26, 2018 18:33:22 GMT
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I have thought about shaping a ring out of .45mm dia brass rod and silver soldering it to the copper pipe so I can push the rubber sose over it and then to use a jubilee clamp to hold it if I cannot get a barbed connector.
I had thought of a brake pipe flange but it's finding some where that has one that size.
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mk2cossie
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Help Needed?mk2cossie
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Jun 26, 2018 20:26:48 GMT
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Hmm, I have a 10mm pipe swaging tool Where abouts and how desperate are you for the pipe to be sorted?
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 26, 2018 21:26:42 GMT
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Thanks for the offer but I'm in the midlands and I still have to put a couple of bends in it but not sure where until I have it mounted on the car.
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Jun 26, 2018 22:17:35 GMT
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Hi, Just use a 10mm olive pushed on and soldered, or get a 10mm inline compression fitting. Slide the compression fitting on and tighten the nut which crimps the olive, undo it, remove the fitting, cut the nut in half to remove it and the same with the other end. Then you can push a hose on and the olive acts as a swage.
Colin
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Last Edit: Jun 26, 2018 22:19:10 GMT by colnerov
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Hi, Just use a 10mm olive pushed on and soldered, or get a 10mm inline compression fitting. Slide the compression fitting on and tighten the nut which crimps the olive, undo it, remove the fitting, cut the nut in half to remove it and the same with the other end. Then you can push a hose on and the olive acts as a swage. Colin And use 8mm copper pipe instead of 10mm.
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ChasR
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Help Needed?ChasR
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Have a chat with dickdasterdley at the Power Steering store. He rarely comes on this forum now, so I'd email/contact him directly through his website. He forgotten more about PAS hoses than we'll ever know and makes them for some big players too. Without sounding like a killjoy, given that PAS fluid is flammable I'd personally get the Mountune kit, if it is as easy to fit as the Ford item.
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Last Edit: Jun 27, 2018 7:24:34 GMT by ChasR
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 27, 2018 10:52:40 GMT
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Have a chat with dickdasterdley at the Power Steering store. He rarely comes on this forum now, so I'd email/contact him directly through his website. He forgotten more about PAS hoses than we'll ever know and makes them for some big players too. Without sounding like a killjoy, given that PAS fluid is flammable I'd personally get the Mountune kit, if it is as easy to fit as the Ford item. I will do that Chas thank you when I closer to needing it at the moment the front end is off the car waiting to have an engine swap so no rush.
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Help Needed?peteh1969
@peteh1969
Club Retro Rides Member 107
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Jun 27, 2018 10:53:56 GMT
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Hi, Just use a 10mm olive pushed on and soldered, or get a 10mm inline compression fitting. Slide the compression fitting on and tighten the nut which crimps the olive, undo it, remove the fitting, cut the nut in half to remove it and the same with the other end. Then you can push a hose on and the olive acts as a swage. Colin And use 8mm copper pipe instead of 10mm. Very good idea thank you.
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