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Aug 14, 2018 11:12:05 GMT
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Still working hard. Still drinking fuel though It's what they do! The was a P38 advertised on our local buy and trade site last year, someone posted a question... How many Litres per 100km does it use? Answer... People who own Range Rovers don't care about such things. I have one too - biggest load I've hauled was a Massey Ferguson tractor on a dual-axle trailer; you barely noticed the difference! I get asked here, a lot, "What's it like on gasoline?" Answer? "Can't get enough, just loves the stuff!"* *35L/100km knocking around Manila, or 8mpg.  |
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Last Edit: Aug 14, 2018 11:12:55 GMT by georgeb
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Aug 14, 2018 13:20:01 GMT
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As you say it’s a lot on fuel but the maths on lpg vs mileage must say keep as is. A diesel wold probably be doing 30% better on fuel but what price the V8 noise !? Your trailer must be very stable with such a long space between axles but slightly scrubby to manoeuvre ? James James - Exactly on the trailer - it's old but well built and extraordinary stable at speed - like you say just scrubs a bit when reversing - previous owner did not maintain it at all so just slowly working my way through it - I have a few runs in the next few weeks to do then it can go for shot blasting prior to paint |
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Aug 14, 2018 14:27:57 GMT
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Ive always fancied a P38 but would be just plain scared to drive it far due to the horror stories of reliability! your a braver man than me!
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hopeso
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Aug 14, 2018 17:00:47 GMT
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Like most Land rover products, they give good service if treated right. You can't run any Land rover on a shoestring and expect it to go on for ever.
Unfortunately most if mine cost me an arm and a leg to get them up to standard before I got bored and moved them on. The next owners always benefited from my expense.
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Aug 14, 2018 22:11:26 GMT
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Like most Land rover products, they give good service if treated right. You can't run any Land rover on a shoestring and expect it to go on for ever. Unfortunately most if mine cost me an arm and a leg to get them up to standard before I got bored and moved them on. The next owners always benefited from my expense. Exactly right. As I always say they are basic and easy to work on, but they have way more basic things than most cars. Also allot of owners tend to translate rugged and reliable with needs little to no maintenance |
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Ive always fancied a P38 but would be just plain scared to drive it far due to the horror stories of reliability! your a braver man than me! And that is the exactly the reason that I hunted down a one owner, service history, 55k miles from new & well maintained / looked after example - probably will not exempt me from a few issues along the way but should delete most of issues that come to the surface on the unloved / poorly maintained examples |
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Aug 15, 2018 13:00:55 GMT
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Ive always fancied a P38 but would be just plain scared to drive it far due to the horror stories of reliability! your a braver man than me! Half the problem is the (large) gap between the stories and the facts. I know we've been here before, but the wherewithal in terms of kit and knowledge is now available to keep them operating by the home mechanic. I run mine 7.000 miles away from where it was built and in five years suffered two flat batteries (they last about 2-2.5 years in the heat) and a cam sensor fault, which turned out to be curse word in the plug. Yes, it's been a work in progress and cost in parts that needed replacing due to neglect, as unlike @grumpynorthener 's, it had zero history, but it certainly ain't unreliable. |
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jonk
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I think I have said this here before but my uncle had two p38s on lpg that he bought as low mileage one owner cars then did over 300,000 miles each towing heavy trailers for most of that time.
They had a few issues but nothing too major.
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glenanderson
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I have run a 1959 Land-Rover as a daily since 1994. As others have said already, it tolerates lots of neglect but has, every five years or so, needed a significant input of time and money to bring it back up to spec. I’ve spent the last year avoiding third gear, two years riding the clutch due to excessive judder from a back axle needing a rebuild, and twenty odd with no door seals. 😂
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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glenanderson
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Aug 16, 2018 11:20:11 GMT
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I’m currently trying to get all my ducks in a row to do an engine swap, gearbox rebuild and back axle overhaul in one marathon “off the road” session.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 12, 2018 19:43:05 GMT
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Very busy 36 hours for the P38  First stop in the West Midlands to drop off parts & collect other parts whilst en-route to Cheshire to deliver the Jupiter  With the Jupiter delivered I then went a further 5 miles North to collect a unfinished project  Jowett Javelin - the owner has run out of steam with  Manged to fill all of the rear of the P38 with parts and this is with the rear seats out  And some of the car on the transporter  The benefits of clearing someone's collection of parts out is that every so often a gem appears - this is a new old stock offside rear door skin - it doesn't come any rarer than this - a very long day - 400 mile round trip - 16 hours !!  Took the Javelin over to the barn this morning to unload from the trailer  Now safely stored with the rest of my Jowett stash |
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The car has only being doing local runs but I noticed on a trip to the bank during the week that the water temp was heading into the red on the gauge so it was obviously loosing coolant somewhere - drove it gingerly back home but only just over a mile - bonnet up and good look around found nothing obvious leak wise & no cross contamination with the oil etc  Until I found this - this runs from the header tank to the throttle body - the slightest of nicks in the pipe but it was the hose clip that was going rusty that alerted me to the area then the obvious tell tale of the red coolant stains on the underside of the throttle body - obviously only happening under pressure when the system is hot  Quick online search at Rimmers and the OE part was with me 24 hours later - it's a long plastic pipe of small bore with hose fittings to each end - sure I could have bodged something together or cut the end with the split down a little and still made it reach - however - running a business I always factor my time into these things and by the time I had faffed around - possibly factoring in a run to the motor factors etc - is it worth it ? secondly if this bit of the hose is on it's way out - how serviceable is the rest of it - when I take these factors into consideration against the fact that no engine rebuild is cheap let alone a rebuild on a V8 - so I consider the £30 spent on a new OE pipe cheap  Has I stated - the slightest of nicks  Fitted - drained the system fully and refilled with fresh anti freeze whilst I was at it - bleed the system and ran it up to temperature  Good check all round and we are back in business (checked the rest of the motors outside whilst I had the antifreeze tester to hand)  Also replaced the two centre caps on the alloys that went missing when the thieving scum attempted to have my wheels away but failed earlier in the year - just need to find time to give the old bus a wash over the next few days |
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Last Edit: Nov 3, 2018 14:29:08 GMT by Deleted
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Hoses were one of my early jobs, with an ambient of 30 degrees, the cooling system works hard on the V8. Did the whole lot, including getting a radiator locally made, so no more plastic header tanks and I can get it repaired anywhere. New 'stat as well, but as the water pump was sound, I've got the new one as spare.
Hoses were definitely past their prime!
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Nov 28, 2018 21:28:53 GMT
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So it turns out that I had eluded myself into thinking that I had sorted the coolant problem out - on checking a few days ago turns out I was wrong - the underside of the throttle body was covered in antifreeze  Inspection mirror shows the underside  Read up on it a little - apparently this is a de-icer unit for the said throttle body and the gaskets failing are a common problem Ordered the new gasket - but it only comes with a new inlet / outlet base plate - so instead of the £2.50 that is should be for a gasket - it's ten times that !  Disconnected the throttle body in order to make life easy  Fitted, checked & commissioned  The old one en-route to the bin - no obvious fault on the gasket that I could see but the problem is resolved  |
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Last Edit: Nov 28, 2018 21:30:55 GMT by Deleted
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  Still doing exactly the job that I bought it for 'Parts Hauling' - this was a trip to Brackley yesterday to collect a load of Bradford body panels for one of my ongoing projects along with other new parts for the Javelin Taxi & my Jupiter project |
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Last Edit: Jan 19, 2019 8:03:57 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 29, 2019 20:29:39 GMT
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So the old girl has spent all of Monday here  With my good friends at EA Autos - classic friendly but mainly moderns - they do my servicing & MOT's - so one MOT (No advisories) tester said it was very clean on the underside, service & a regas on the air con (I could have done the servicing but's it's not the best use of own time really - I'm better back in the workshop getting things into profile - very fair invoice of just over £236 including vat  Hard to believe I have virtually owned it for a year - done 5,800miles in it and its just gone over the 61,000 miles mark - just needs a good wash now |
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Last Edit: Jan 29, 2019 20:31:30 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 31, 2019 13:15:13 GMT
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Now if that was here, they may have changed the easiest spark plug to get at, with a different one they had hanging around, then dropped the oil, sieved it through the gusset of a bar girls panties and refilled it. BUT, it would only have cost you a pound of rice and they'd have washed it. I'll do my own thanks! |
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Jan 31, 2019 15:00:33 GMT
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Now if that was here, they may have changed the easiest spark plug to get at, with a different one they had hanging around, then dropped the oil, sieved it through the gusset of a bar girls panties and refilled it. BUT, it would only have cost you a pound of rice and they'd have washed it. I'll do my own thanks! George - I sincerely hope that they not using the panties for the rice has well  |
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Mar 10, 2019 18:30:05 GMT
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P38 now in NEC Restoration Show mode  With a round trip to Yorkshire with the trailer to collect a stand exhibit then deliver it to Coventry so that it's within an easy distance of the show It will have the car trailer loaded behind it with a further car for the trip from home to the show  But I also need every cubic inch of space in the back of it has well  Hence out came the rear seats today in preparation  Range Rover Commerical - now there's a novel idea |
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Mar 10, 2019 18:34:34 GMT
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Booked tickets for the Saturday for me and Tom, so will pluck up the courage to come and find you |
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