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Good to see its not just me who cant stand the idea of buying something different to "Save the planet" and finding it doesnt work. Wherever i can stuff gets reused or recycled. Unfortunatly we live in a throw-away era now where people don't have any inclination to try and fix something when they can toss it into landfill and buy another.
You have made some great ranting points there that i only wish we could get across to the morons running the place.
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glenanderson
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I had one of the eco-warriors at work attempt to take me to task for running a “huge, unnecessary, thirsty, inefficient, pointless 4 x 4”.
I pointed out that it’s carbon footprint commenced in 1959, and that I, personally, had invested a not inconsiderable amount of time and effort in keeping it going for more than 1/4 century using recycled parts, home made ones and the services of countless small business around the world. His poxy Leaf, on the other hand...
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Hey James, weirdly I saw the Roy Wood image on your picture before I read your text, except i had 'Good Bye Blackberry Way' instantly in my head. I never knew seeing faces was a thing. I thought everyone could see them - especially in clouds.
How do you get on with the Magic Eye books that were very popular in the 90's?
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Bad luck with the picture rail, what did you use to stick it up? ive always found gripfill to be rubbish as it skins of too quickly, sticks like sh*t wouldn't stick anything to anything, pinkgrip seemed ok but silicon is often my default for stuff like that
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I've used No More Nails for skirting with quite good results although last time i actually used industrial super sticky expanding foam would you believe, which was really good on a very uneven wall.
I would of thought on a picture rail, you'd need it pretty strong if you were to actually hang pictures off it. I'd do belts and braces and glue and screw.
You can also get different grades of silicone sealant - again with industrial stuff being thicker and stickier.
I also noticed you'll be having a plug socket underneath your radiator. Is this to hide it and would it be safe should the radiator leak?
Top rant by the way, i fully agree with alot of those points. I think the intentions are always pretty good with new environmentally conscious ways of doing things but often implemented badly. I recently used some white no gloss water based paint and to be fair its been quite good. I actually bought it due to no smell so i could paint it in the evening whilst baby was asleep and couldn't touch it. Sometimes i think the best environmentally friendly products are actually ones that don't set out to be intentionally green in the first place. The bicycle being one of them. Tesla (although not without their problems) started by making sports cars. Cars for sporting use! My word that's very anti-environment! But it got people on board.
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James - Welcome to the 'Grumpy' fan club please follow the instructions detailed within the forum to change your user name to: 'Grumpy Sweetpea' (Call it intuition but I just knew that you would get there one day) I... I don't know what to say. It's an unexpected honour. I'd like to thank my wife, the postman, and all my friends here on Retro Rides. I couldn't have done it without you. I'm so happy! (Oh, that's not the idea is it. Oops.) Thank you... Thank you all soooo much. Screws... I'm trying to avoid screws! All the other picture rails are glued up, they all carry pictures (some are heavy), none have fallen down. plums to screws. Glue or death! @quickrack1 , I was looking at the FrankenStarter packs. The jump start pack I have - which has 2 gell batteries in it - is stupidly heavy but has the advantage of having an inverter in it so I'm tempted to fix it. But I don't use the inverter often... Oh I'll think about it. I'll write the story in the MR2 thread when I can be bothered to tackle it. The battery in the car is screwed though. Hey James, weirdly I saw the Roy Wood image on your picture before I read your text, except i had 'Good Bye Blackberry Way' instantly in my head. I never knew seeing faces was a thing. I thought everyone could see them - especially in clouds. How do you get on with the Magic Eye books that were very popular in the 90's? Magic Eye books? Had to look that up! Yeah, I remember having some success with those. But now I need to find out how they work... Back in a day or two... gtviva , I normally use Gripfill (with lots of nasty solvent) as it happens. You are right though, it does skin over too quickly. I've always got round that by 'sliding' the part into position which breaks the skin. I've never had it fail except when skirting got wet*** and the wood cupped. Still the Gripfill didn't fail. It just ripped the plaster off the wall. The stuff that failed yesterday was No Solvent Gripfill. It's bl00dy useless. Utterly bl00dy useless. Thing is, I hate throwing things away so I need to think of another use for it... If only it wasn't so utterly useless. ***The wet skirting problem. That was a bad day. So we'd just finished the living room including two cast iron radiators, new carpets and so on. About 2 or 3 weeks later I'd just got to work when the missus called to say that the heating was making really odd noises and there was the sound of running water by the radiator in the far corner of the living room. I told her to shut down the heating (which closed the motorised valves and stopped the running water noises) and I went home. I'd used chrome plated pipes off the radiator valves and plastic pipe under the floors. I'd used a push fit angle joint between the plastic and the chrome. Why I'd done this is a total mystery because I know it's a disastrous idea. But for some reason, despite knowing better, I did it. The problem is that the barbs on the push fit fittings can't grip the chrome plating. It's too hard. One if the fittings literally slid off the chrome pipe and dumped the entire heating system under the living room floor. Hmmm. James
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Wilk
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Tip for minimum fixings in picture rail...
Drill 10mm holes approx 40mm deep and hammer in tight wooden dowels. Cut flush with plaster and mark location above or below rail. Use 40mm ovals through rail into plugs. (Replace dimensions with imperial sizes... metric easier to type lol) You’ll need minimum filler by the time the heads are punched below the surface of the timber and only require minimum number of fixing points... plus if you measure things up right you can get the heads into the crease in the mould so it’s almost hidden without any filler
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If it can be fixed with a hammer, then it must be an electrical fault
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Tip for minimum fixings in picture rail... Drill 10mm holes approx 40mm deep and hammer in tight wooden dowels. Cut flush with plaster and mark location above or below rail. Use 40mm ovals through rail into plugs. (Replace dimensions with imperial sizes... metric easier to type lol) You’ll need minimum filler by the time the heads are punched below the surface of the timber and only require minimum number of fixing points... plus if you measure things up right you can get the heads into the crease in the mould so it’s almost hidden without any filler That, my dear chap, is an incredibly good idea. If it falls down again I'll do exactly that. Thanks!
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Today… I used my wooden radiator and plumbed up to the valves. That involved draining the upstairs circuit but, as I’d thought about that when I plumbed the thing, it was an easy job.  It also involved replacing a piece of floor board that had been cut to shreds years ago. But as I never throw anything away, I had a spare piece in the garage. It’s such a good match you can’t even tell which one it is. (It’s the one by the wall that the pipes go through.) Toast noticed that there is a mains socket directly under the rad. Yeah, there always was. According to the current regs they are supposed to be 300mm up the wall too. But it’s been in the skirting since 1931 and I ain’t moving it. If the rad squirts water all over the brand new carpet it won’t be the socked that I’m annoyed about! And then the other two bits of picture rail fell off the wall. Ok, they needed a prod but it didn’t take much. They weren’t safe to have pictures on them.  The glue got flaked off. Again, depressingly easy. And the whole lot stuck back up with silicone.  The stuff I did yesterday seems well stuck but I’m not counting my chickens just yet. Now I’m going to convert my Lego VW camper van to right hand drive. Out of the box it builds as left hand drive and it’s always bothered me…
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Last Edit: Jan 3, 2020 19:54:01 GMT by Sweetpea
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I find CT1 very good for sticking things up.
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Hmm, people will have to make sure they differentiate between the two. Previously a reference to 'Grumpy' could only mean one person. It'll need to be 'Grumpy N' and 'Grumpy S' now.
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To more easily avoid confusing "Grumpy's", perhaps SOURpea would be a more fitting moniker? lol
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Yeah it confused me too! I did a quick edit to a post and saw the "Last edited by..." thing at the bottom. "Eh?" I thought, "how did @grumpynorthener edit my post?" Then I realised it was me. Let me revel in the great honour that GN has bestowed upon me for a few more hours and I'll change it back again later.
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Top rantin' James, top rantin'! Seconded!! I may not be grumpy by name but those forced to live with me assure me I am by nature........ and the quasi-environmental bs is one guaranteed trigger! Nick PS apparently “peak grump” for the British male occurs between the ages of 45 and 60. After that they begin to mellow. Pretty sure I was a cynical, grumpy so and so before that and I can’t see any mellowing on the horizon...
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend) 1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing) 1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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eternaloptimist
Posted a lot
Too many projects, not enough time or space...
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...apparently “peak grump” for the British male occurs between the ages of 45 and 60. After that they begin to mellow. Pretty sure I was a cynical, grumpy so and so before that and I can’t see any mellowing on the horizon... Same here, but the thing is, it’s all relative. With (according to the above) a mere two years to go before I begin to mellow, I look forward to returning to more normal (for me at least) levels of cynicism and sarcasm. Back to the picture rails - really admire the determination to do the job to a good standard and not just bosh them in with a Fischer hammer in screw fixing.
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XC70, VW split screen crew cab, Standard Ten
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PS apparently “peak grump” for the British male occurs between the ages of 45 and 60. After that they begin to mellow. Pretty sure I was a cynical, grumpy so and so before that and I can’t see any mellowing on the horizon... Well I suppose I now have an excuse for a while. The truth is that despite GN saying I've finally achieved grumpiness I've always been a bit cynical and had moments of annoyance. I rarely express it though. In fact I'm always a bit shocked when people in London are pleasant and friendly 'cos my inner feelings are that I wish they'd stop playing with their bl00dy phones and get out of the way. Maybe I was 45 years old when I was born.
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Right, last day in the office before the carpet goes down. The picture rail is still on the wall by the way. Fitted the new sockets…  Quite like the black nickel stuff. Bit of a problem here…  The missing one is the CAT 5 network sockets. I can’t find black nickel network sockets. Probably didn’t look hard enough… Anyway, the original white plastic ones are definitely not going back on so, like I said, a problem.  On the right, the bit that’s not going back. On the left, the insides. What I need is a blank front plate with two carefully filed holes in it. Oh look, I seem to have one kicking around in a drawer.  Astonishing what you have lying around when you never throw anything away. Also need a couple of bits of something to act a spacers for the back. So, sockets, spacers, and front plate. Assembled with silicone sealant as an adhesive and screwed to the wall.  That’ll do. Anyway, two years ago this thread started with me fixing Christmas lights. Two years later…  Oh joy.
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I had one of the eco-warriors at work attempt to take me to task for running a “huge, unnecessary, thirsty, inefficient, pointless 4 x 4”. I pointed out that it’s carbon footprint commenced in 1959, and that I, personally, had invested a not inconsiderable amount of time and effort in keeping it going for more than 1/4 century using recycled parts, home made ones and the services of countless small business around the world. His poxy Leaf, on the other hand... Tell him his green, eco friendly Leaf is powered by about 45% natural gas and coal. And another 20 odd % Chernobyl / Fukushima. Admittedly better than the 100% fossil fuels that my hybrid manages but still not green. This is another thing that annoys me. Zero emissions cars aren't zero emissions. They just move the pollution somewhere else. Absolutely nothing should have "Zero Emissions" written on it. Sorry, I've gone all grumpy again.
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I forget where i saw it, (not very helpful) but i noticed an electric car referred to as “zero tailpipe emissions” the other day.
Maybe the tide of goodwill is turning for them and a more honest description has been deemed necessary by the marketing bods? 🤪
ETA Love the work in this thread 😎
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Last Edit: Jan 5, 2020 20:05:29 GMT by andyg16v
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Not to mention the pollution caused mining the metal for the batteries, pollution caused making the batteries, and pollution caused recycling the batteries, and the pollution from the oil in the dampers, and the pollution from the brake dust (more because battery cars are heavier), pollution from the tyres wearing and needing recycling the same as normal cars etc etc etc etc
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