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Oct 29, 2017 20:41:12 GMT
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(Wasn't sure if this should be in "Questions" or "technical bits"... I opted for here in 'technical' but even as I type this I'm utterly convinced it should be in questions. Although, it is, technically, a technical question. Oh curse word this, I'm putting it in questions. *Copy* === *Paste* So, I have the standard Wolfrace "slot mags" alloy wheels on my Scimitar. I've recently decided I'd like to paint them black. They are standard finish bare metal silver, though 40-something years old so not in great condition. I just think my satin black car would look good on satin black, or even gloss black slot mag alloys (I'm calling them 'slot mag alloys' so that the ubiquitous pedants don't all emerge from their coffins to say either (a) "they're not technically 'slot mags' because they're not magnesium they're alloy" or (b) "That style of wheel is called a 'slot mag' by the way, not an alloy'). But I've not ever painted 'slot mag alloy mag slot' wheels before, or any wheels ever for that matter, and I'm wondering if there's a really good paint that certified wheel-freaks swear by for this kind of thing? What I really don't want is to paint them, and then have a few months where I think "hey I'm really glad I painted them" followed by a few months of thinking "that paint has started peeling off and the wheels now look like hell" followed by a few months of "I really ought to take them all off again and paint them again, even though it's utterly futile because they'll just peel again". I want to paint them with something that isn't going to disappoint, basically. Any paint recommendations for a good, solid, not-going-anywhere black finish on slotted mag alloy mag slot mag alloys?  ^ The aforementioned slotted slot mag alloy "non-magnesium" slot mag alloys |
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brachunky
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Oct 29, 2017 20:48:56 GMT
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Would you not consider powder coating? Done by a good firm, its pretty tough & looks good although somewhat dearer!
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Oct 29, 2017 20:53:32 GMT
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Hmmm, dearer isn't really compatible with my car. It's a beater, and I don't believe in spending good money on cosmetic things for a beater. I'd rather keep my pocket money for those times when important things fall off and keep the non-essential budget well below 12p per annum.
I'm really looking to achieve something durable, but only via a wet&dry session, some etch primer, and a rattle can of nuclear winter resistant wheel paint.
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Oct 29, 2017 21:18:48 GMT
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Good 2K lacquer touch up paint, sounds like the tough durable paint you want - although quality - dupli-color, VHT will also help. The cheap $1-10 stuff - avoid it will fade within 2 years and flake within 4. Like with anything to do with paint its all in the prep.
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Last Edit: Oct 29, 2017 21:19:57 GMT by mazdaspeed
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ChrisT
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Oct 29, 2017 21:23:20 GMT
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I've had good results with Halfords black wheel paint.
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Oct 29, 2017 21:33:22 GMT
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Purchase a decent etching primer and a again decent quality satin black areosols - just don't purchase the no name / rubbish cheap brand because although it's cheap it will also give you cheap results - you need to spend three times longer than you had originally planned on preparation before you start painting and use a panel wipe at all stages of preparation - to achieve a long lasting result the best thing you can do is remove the wheels, deflate the tyres and get your local tyre centre to knock the tyre bead off the wheel rim on the outer face (tyre can stay on the rim) - that way you can apply the paint all the way over the rim edge - therefore when you re-inflate the tyre you obtain a sealed edge to the paint - sure you can just mask up around the tyre and paint up to the rim edge - and then wait until the water / salt eats in to the paint edge and then watch the paint fall off - it's like everything that involves paint - If you want good results, good preparation & bucket full of patience is the key Here is a pic of some VW type 2 wheels that I did earlier in the year using the process described above  |
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Last Edit: Oct 29, 2017 21:37:45 GMT by Deleted
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Oct 29, 2017 23:25:39 GMT
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Montana black graffiti paint. Or montana white if you want want a gloss finish (white / black / gold are just the types of paint, any colour availible) just lash it on, and it sticks like curse word to a blanket. Graff-city.com sells it cheap.
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Oct 29, 2017 23:29:21 GMT
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Cheers for this info fellas. I was planning to get the tyres out of the way to get it round the lip.
Actually though, reading all of this has left me feeling like it's very highly likely that it's just not going to be very durable with a spray paint.
I might do some experiments in an old Bedford alloy I have knocking around and see if I can invent some kind of homebrewed dip process using some sort of liquid plastic coating.
I'm sure the wife won't mind me using the bath for a few experiments of that nature.
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Oct 29, 2017 23:31:20 GMT
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Montana black graffiti paint. Or montana white if you want want a gloss finish (white / black / gold are just the types of paint, any colour availible) just lash it on, and it sticks like curse word to a blanket. Graff-city.com sells it cheap. Oh, didn't see this before I posted. Seen the paint around. Always assumed it more of an arty paint and probably not so durable therefore. Cheers. Might get a can and put it through it's paces then. See how resistant to scuffing and scraping it is. |
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Oct 29, 2017 23:44:05 GMT
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Bodywork is painted in montana black, both sets of wheels done with montana white. Minimal prep, covers everything. Sounds like the kind of effort / finish you want for a daily / runaround?   |
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vulgalour
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 I just used Halfords paints on mine and they're standing up quite well to daily use. Regular red primer, metallic aerosol and the heavy duty lacquer. It's a nice finish and very easy to keep clean. Cost about £40 to do all five (matching spare) 14" wheels. I had considered powdercoat but couldn't get the colour I wanted easily and the extra expense didn't seem worthwhile for the end result. |
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2017 0:53:51 GMT by vulgalour
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vulgalour
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 Detail shot, because for some reason it didn't go in the last post there. |
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g40jon
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2017 8:23:13 GMT by g40jon
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ChasR
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Oct 31, 2017 10:34:58 GMT
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TBH Powdercoating isn't that much more expensive and may be money spent smartly too  . I shall explain. If your wheels are leaking no amount of paint will stop the corrosion from coming back at the bead short of shotblasting them. Powdercoating IME does stop this ; I've not had the wheels. I've seen a number of refurbished "painted wheels leak, including ones painted around bead. hoopsontoast 's Dolly Sprint is a great example here. On my cars where the rims leaked around the bead (generally alloy wheels) they have been fine touchwood after powdercoating. Why do I say it's smarter? It's cheaper than wearing out your tyres or dare I say damage to the tyre from underinflation. Yes I've had that happen to me before as they did leak that bad despite me resealing them every few months ; the latter is only ever a short term fix IME and money down the drain. As for expensive City Powdercoaters in Brum charge £20-25 a wheel and do a range of finishes. They'll charge more for removing/refitting tyres but that's up to you. Apologies if I am trying to teach you how to suck eggs but I have been there and bought painted rims that wouldn't stop leaking. |
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Oct 31, 2017 11:27:42 GMT
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My wheels aren't leaking. I just fancy painting them black.
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ChasR
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Oct 31, 2017 14:52:54 GMT
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In which case no worries  . I was merely referring to my experience of older wheels. |
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Nov 22, 2017 19:14:37 GMT
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another vote for Hammerite as used on my Omega alloys  |
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'97 omega tourer 2.5i
'95 omega elite saloon 3.0i
'65 a40 farina mk2
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Nov 22, 2017 21:44:15 GMT
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Bloody hell they look good!
I've just ordered new tyres for my car, so I now have a small window of time in which to decide whether to paint them black or just polish them, or just leave them as they are.
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Last Edit: Nov 23, 2017 17:34:18 GMT by Deleted
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ChasR
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Nov 23, 2017 12:34:35 GMT
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Polish I reckon . Are Wolfies lacquered from the factory? |
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Nov 23, 2017 14:45:45 GMT
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If you're brush painting you can't go far wrong with Dulux Metalshield, it's got an 8 year claim if you use their primer too. I've got it in orange on my bike frame and it's almost indestructible.
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. I shall explain.
. I was merely referring to my experience of older wheels.
