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Jul 24, 2017 19:45:11 GMT
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Hi all, I'm a return member from about a decade ago! Still into retro cars.
Anyway my question is to those brave souls who have brought a car from mainland Europe to the UK. I'm going to be doing this at some point and plan A was to check out the potential car and drive it back the scenic route to Calais etc and deal with the ensuing trials along the route. I had a search of the forum but wasn't really finding anything.
I am wondering about a plan B of trailering a car back. That is, good potential cars that are presently off the road an can come back as a strong project. I have found likely candidates that could fit the bill but I'm keen to learn the facts about what I can (should ) hire, from where - any recommended companies, and more practically, what people have found was the best way back over the channel for example is it ok to take a kind of beaver tail van on a ferry or Eurotunnel train. I don't have a tow car so I'd have to rent a van that'll take a car on the back.
If anyone has done this and reckons it's a waste of time due to the cost of hiring and all the miles through, Eg France then let me hear your views! Also I'm all the way up in Glasgow so there's that as well. Not ideal either now the Pound it weak against the Euro but hey, gotta get it at some point! I also understand that if you get stopped with a car on a trailer you must show the log bok and that the chassis number has to match.
Also! if anyone has driven a car back from France, was there a temporary European breakdown/ recovery service they'd reccommend?
I've found a car in Lille for example that would need trailered due to no French MOT but it's only in Lille so potentially less than 2 hours from the Ferry. Others have been further afield though..
Any advice greatly accepted
Graeme
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Graeme M
1993 Citroen Xantia TD VSX 'Auld Katy' 1968 Future arrival..
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Jul 24, 2017 21:25:25 GMT
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What're the odds of getting caught driving dodgy through France and then home to Scotland? Here in NZ I'd be likely to take a chance on it if the car looked the part and hope not to get pulled at a checkpoint.
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Jul 24, 2017 22:05:08 GMT
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What're the odds of getting caught driving dodgy through France and then home to Scotland? Here in NZ I'd be likely to take a chance on it if the car looked the part and hope not to get pulled at a checkpoint. About 99.9% chance of getting pinged by something automatic if you drive over and everything that goes through a British port will be auto checked.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Hi yea winging it crossed my mind of course but driving the fair old distance I'm thinking more about breakdown recovery. I'm thinking about the rented transporter option. Three dream is to drive back though
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Graeme M
1993 Citroen Xantia TD VSX 'Auld Katy' 1968 Future arrival..
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Jul 25, 2017 19:29:02 GMT
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I bought my Rover P5B in the UK and brought it to Holland. As i didn't had a decent towing vehicle for a heavy Rover, i rented a single car transporter. This drives much more comfortable then a trailer and used the Eurotunnel to get over. As i needed to pick up the Rover near London, i managed the picking up in 1 long day. I think i payed approx Euro 350,- without fuel. You could also consider using Shiply which is a kind of marketplace for transport. You can drop the transport there and shippers quote a price for you. The may combine it with another shipment which could give low prices. I used it once and payed Euro 70,- to get 4 wheels from the UK to Holland.
Peter
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Jul 25, 2017 21:38:48 GMT
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Put it in for a CT, when it fails you have 3 months to fix it, make sure insurance is in place on the chassis number and drive back.
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That sounds only slightly less dodgy than running rebel and hoping to not get caught.
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Glasgow to Lille, without owning any of the equipment, doesn't stack up financially.
If it's something specific, unavailable here you could train it to Lille ( quite cheap if booked in advance) with a hooky set of uk number plates & a big GB plate, cable tie on and drive back ( removing just before the tunnel) . Big risk but you'll probably get away with it. But the exchange rate is right against you now.
Hiring a truck to take is problematic -as most want it out of the U.K., and the boat cost renders it uneconomic. If you've access to a tow at, an A Frane gets the crossing cost down by using an A frame, but I still doubt it'll add up- and if you've little recent experience...
So, have you considered Scandinavia? Cheaper there, with a broader range and transport to UK via ro ro isn't too expensive.
2 days ago I bought a very early Isuzu in northern Finland, currently being transported to the south coast ( Port Turku) to ship across to Harwich, via Mann Lines. I expect you could find a more northern option, closer to Scotland
It's a left field option, you might want to look at.
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Jul 26, 2017 10:46:31 GMT
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That's an interesting proposition Mr bickle.
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Graeme M
1993 Citroen Xantia TD VSX 'Auld Katy' 1968 Future arrival..
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Jul 26, 2017 10:59:59 GMT
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I think the transport option is probably out of the question but was worth considering. I only need to get the car to London where it goes into my friend's garage for any work. I want to drive it back anyway. There's no rush so I'm happy to wait till there's a car with CT and in frequent enough use to be 'reliable ' 😊 You're right that I've no experience bringing a beast back from the continent but I've brought very many from the extremes of the UK. drove my old 1982 BX from cambourne in Cornwall to Glasgow, CXs from Cambridgeshire and from Stansted, GSA from Bristol, 1993 Xantia from south Wales... XM turbo from Nottingham. sometimes with RAC, sometimes without.... 100% success so far! I get a thrill from hopping on an easy jet to drive home in a project. Just raising the stakes now.
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Graeme M
1993 Citroen Xantia TD VSX 'Auld Katy' 1968 Future arrival..
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Jul 26, 2017 15:54:22 GMT
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Ok, I bring the occasional early Twingo across. I've 3 in the UK right now, 2 Uk registered, I waiting.
First I track a vehicle I want close to Lille, usually on Leboncoin. It'll take a few before a vendor takes you seriously. I prefer MOT type failures, because the French test is rubbish anyway/ they all need welding whatever/ and because they are therefore cheap & the vendor desperate!
I ( or Google translate) explain that I will prepay a 50% deposit in advance, if we can agree terms! and that with a one way ticket! I'm having it! Once pics, questions are satisfiied & ID confirmed I PayPal, bank transfer or whatever the 50%. I ask him to ensure there is at least 15 litres of fuel in the car- I want to pick/ chose my stop- 15 litres will get me to the Uk, if pressed. So, if it has a weak battery, or suchlike, no stops needed. Dial it into the agreed price.
I then book the Eurotunnel train from Ashford Internationsl to Lille, one way. There is one train daily, around 9am that's dirt cheap if book iit a couple of weeks in advance. Takes about an hour, less if you get off at Calais Frethun, an option if the cars on the coast
I give the vendor the date & eta.
On the day I pack an overnight bag inc a pair of Uk plates, a big GB sticker, Union Jack rubbish etc, (& a few tools!) to make myself look like a tourist. Vendor picks up from Int Station( there's a huge, dirt cheap car park there, dead easy) and we adjourn to collect.
Check the car over , always been ok so far, Outstanding funds paid, paperwork completed and it's mine. I add U.K. stuff for a straighter run back, taking the risk & it's about 2-3 hours to the tunnel.
If it's really shonky, and/ or you want to retain the French plates, it's just over five miles ( in the wrong direction!) to the Belgium border, and the long way round. You are less likely to get tugged as a foreigner, too much hassle, so that may be the safer route if it's illegal. If that's a problem, ask him to CT it( Mot). Even a fail gives 2 months legal use- whilst you sort it out!
2 miles from tunnel I revert to French plates, clean it up, whistle through and drive to Ashford, where the tow car from this morning is waiting. Hitch up the A frame stashed in the boot, and hit the M20.
There and back in a day, easily, minimal cost or disruption.
Thats the mechanics. It would have to be very special or a total bargain right now, frankly. But that'll change. Bide your time.
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Jul 30, 2017 22:05:32 GMT
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Did I read that right, you put UK plates that belong on a UK car onto a foreign car and drive an unroadworthy car that is uninsured?
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Last Edit: Jul 30, 2017 22:07:01 GMT by Deleted
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