BT
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Jun 11, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
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Hello retro rides
Once again I am in a bind and need some solid advice so please excuse the somewhat slapped together quick post here.
I am in the position of needing a cheap, spacious hack to do a few thousand miles in. The Honda CR-V has taken my fancy and for the first time ever I am looking at the lazy option of an automatic and ive found myself with questions I don't know the answers to.
The seller has told me that occasionally, very occasionally the revs increase slightly more than usual on an up shift. I have no idea if this is to be expected from an automatic, if it's natural or if it's a tell tale that the thing is going to die imminently?
What could this problem be? Is it a possibility that this problem is a sign of a catastrophic failure in the not too distant future? Does it mean something far less significant like it's due a service?
Can anyone give me any advice as to if its Roth running the risk on or steering very clear of. Just for the record this is a sub £500 minges bag that I only need 1500 miles out of. If it does more then that would be fantastic!
Thanks for any help.
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squonk
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Jun 11, 2017 22:43:37 GMT
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Most likely a clutch band is slipping in the gearbox. It could just be a case of adjusting it or it may need a new gearbox. Tread very carefully with this one. The cost of a replacement gearbox will probably write the car off.
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vanpeebles
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Jun 12, 2017 11:09:37 GMT
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Agreed, sounds like a worn out box.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:35:10 GMT
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I only ever buy Auto's - that sounds like a band slipping and would cost more than double £500 to fix - You should still be able to but a decent Auto Honda for that money.
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BT
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Jun 12, 2017 12:03:45 GMT
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Thanks very much indeed for the help guys. You may have saved me a few hundred quid. I'll give this one a swerve.
Thanks again very much!
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vanpeebles
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Jun 12, 2017 12:18:44 GMT
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It's kind of thing where it's just all downhill from that point. Fresh oil etc won't help it, and the slip will get worse and worse until it looses drive altogether.
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at200
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Jun 12, 2017 20:28:06 GMT
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I've only had a couple of autos but neither have ever done that. As said, it's a sign that all is not well. I wouldn't risk it personally as the cost of an auto box repair will exceed £500.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:47:33 GMT
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To expand a bit on above it is known as "flaring" If it is intermittent it could be the valve block starting to crud up.
With autos pull the dipstick when cold & look at the fluid, should be cherryade colour & translucent. Sniff it & it shouldn't smell burnt. Wipe some off onto your finger & thumb & check that there are no bits in it. If the oil is dark red then it needs an oil & filter (if it has one, some have two) change. If it has bits in it or smells burnt then assume it is toast. I assume this is highish miles. Once the box ages then the seals harden & line pressure drops. This lowers the pressure to the clutches & hence the slip condition.
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BT
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Jun 12, 2017 21:34:42 GMT
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Thanks very much for the replies chaps. I have an auto Audi, but it's some fancy DSG flappy paddle thing which I have been very happy with. I've never had a basic auto so all of this is unknown to me. I have had a very quick read of auto boxes and their principles but a lot is still a mystery to me porsche944 Thanks very much indeed for such a comprehensive reply and some incredibly useful information there. Can a low level also cause for delay in power delivery or a slipping sensation? The car is on 108k. Thanks everyone once again. |
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Jun 16, 2017 19:56:10 GMT
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BT yes it can. Most of the autos are easy to check & fill, some of the newer ones are a pain. My Porsche Cayenne really needs a ramp & has no dipstick. At 108K I'd do the checks above, a Honda CR-V will be a JATCO box I think. A filter & fluid shouldn't be too expensive. Its a bit of a lottery to be honest. If the rest of it checks out OK & subject to the tests above it would be worth a punt on. At 108K it is due a fluid change irrespective if they say sealed for life or not. The problem is that if it is starting to break up internally it is maybe too late. Sometimes it is the gunge (fluid & bits) that keep it working...
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fad
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Jun 16, 2017 20:10:09 GMT
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I killed a Scooby Forester in Iceland that had exactly those symptoms. The honest truth* is I drove very carefully everywhere and not once took it off the main roads for some winter rally fun.
*for a given value of "truth"
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