dubwarrior2
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For some time now I have been struggling with something that drives me mad.
For the life of me, I cant figure out why manufacturers do it.
When fitting alloy wheels with curved spokes, not making different wheels for the left and right hand side of the car!!!!
They fit one type of wheel. So if the spokes point forwards on the drivers side, they point backwards on the other side.
I really don't like it.
I accept that you only see one side of the car at a time but its like fitting totally different wheels.
It started bugging me when I was looking for a set of porsche alloys.
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The reason is cost - they'd need to have two moulds for cast alloys or machine different designs for each set of four.
I do know what you mean though, I remember a set of lorinser wheels that were popular in the mid 2000s that had the same problem and it really bugged me.
Some companies do make directional pairs though.
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Some wheels just look like they should be spinning in a blender, not on a car.
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One thing that (as an owner) always annoyed me more than it should was the horn grilles not lining up with the indicators on the S1 XJ6, see below. When really it should be like this:
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Davey
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I can see this thread being great!
More of an issue on moderns but oil filter locations!
Why do they insist on putting oil filters behind suspension components or completely behind exhaust manifolds.
They claim its a space issue but then certain vehicles using the same engines with a curse word ton more space keep the filter in the same location! Drives me insane, turns a 20 minute job into hours sometimes.
The same applies for changing bulbs, on most cars it is just about possible but some of the modern things now you have to take bumpers off and turn into a bloody contortionist to get the bulbs in and out.
Those god damn hateful metal CV join clips!!!! Whoever designed them deserves to go to hell and be condemned to fitting the bloody things to greasy horrible CV joints for eternity.
Volkswagen group auto gearboxes that you have to fill through the drain hole! How the hell is that a sensible idea! Lets just put fluid in until it pours out all over our heads, good way to check the levels....
Split pins in their ever eternal attempt to shear off inside castle nuts!
Jag head studs that run through the water jacket and snap for fun.
There are many more that i know will irritate me but they don't come to mid, i will be back!
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Last Edit: Jun 10, 2017 9:08:52 GMT by Davey
K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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Jun 10, 2017 10:03:24 GMT
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This is probably something that bothers only me but the front indicator/sidelight units on a chrome bumper MGB are clearly the wrong way round. Imagine if you flipped them 180 degrees the flat part would be in line with the grille and the sidelights would be pointing forwards rather than out to the corners. I just imagine that a worker on the MG production line just put them on the wrong way round and (this being BMC in the 60s/70s) the supervisor didn't dare tell him off for fear of starting yet another strike! Another more general one is indicator switches being on the wrong (ie right hand) side of the steering column. It just makes more sense to me to have it on the same side as the gear shift, that way your right hand (in a RHD car) cab stay on the wheel all the time.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:03:43 GMT
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What idiot designed the Ford OHC six and put the distributor so far up under the inlet manifold as to be unreachable by a normal human? The same one who put the alternator directly beneath the power steering pump so it could drown in leaking power steering oil.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:05:53 GMT
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Yes to MGB lights, no to indicator switch gear ratchart.
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fad
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Jun 10, 2017 10:11:36 GMT
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Made up car names.. Like the Ford Kuga. Or the blatantly "We spelled it wrong and didn't realise till it was too late" Coguar motorbike... Also doesn't annoy me but volume knobs seem to wind folk up. Like leaving it on an odd number, or even better my mates old TV that would go up to 63 and no higher (there's a technical reason for this). My amp at home has a digital readout, reads in dB's and is to two decimal places. That drives people REALLY mad! LOL!!!
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Davey
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Jun 10, 2017 10:18:00 GMT
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What idiot designed the Ford OHC six and put the distributor so far up under the inlet manifold as to be unreachable by a normal human? The same one who put the alternator directly beneath the power steering pump so it could drown in leaking power steering oil. Seems it would be the same guy that designed the same setup for the alternator on the rover 75.
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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Jun 10, 2017 10:19:49 GMT
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Vw are particularly bad at this but putting names on cars which are for a different body style, Passat cc, the cc means "comfort coupe" dunno if you've noticed but they aren't coupes. Too many doors. The other one, phaeton, by definition a phaeton is an open top car, usually a fast one, google phaeton bodystyle and you'll see loads of old cars that are convertible, something the phaeton is not. Of course maybe I'm just old fashioned and like to call things by what they are, if a car is a laundalette, then that's what it is, it starts to get confusing when you look into SUV and crossovers. Crossover by definition being a unibody car capable of off-roading, an SUV is body on frame. Though these days people would say an x5 is an SUV. I guess it's the same argument that people have recently when they aren't a he/she, him/her they're a zep, zott, zapp. Stupid.
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Davey
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Jun 10, 2017 10:19:59 GMT
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Has anyone else noticed that all aftermarket headunits seem to be designed with Europe in mind with the volume control on the left away from the driver, that's a little frustration for me.
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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Davey
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Jun 10, 2017 10:22:01 GMT
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Vw are particularly bad at this but putting names on cars which are for a different body style, Passat cc, the cc means "comfort coupe" dunno if you've noticed but they aren't coupes. Too many doors. The other one, phaeton, by definition a phaeton is an open top car, usually a fast one, google phaeton bodystyle and you'll see loads of old cars that are convertible, something the phaeton is not. The fact they use CC for coupe cabriolet as well is very irritating, when these were first about i thought to my self how the hell does the roof open on that.
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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Jun 10, 2017 10:43:11 GMT
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Hi, I still don't get the term SUV. It's either a sports or a utility I don't see how it can be both. It's like having a convertible estate.
Colin
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Jun 10, 2017 11:16:03 GMT
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More modern issue too. Mk4 Golf era.
VW covering everything in the engine bay with layers of plastic that serve little to no purpose and makes even changing the battery a bit of a sod needlessly. Doing this in -15 in the snow which is when batteries tend to fail, the plastic is rock hard and doesn't like to have its flexible clips flex at all and some bright spark has decided that the battery is also a good place to house a load of fuses on top of.
Having the drain tubes from the sunroof nipped flat. Fail to give them a pinch every so often to release the water results in a courtesy light looking like a gold fish bowl.
Having so much plastic around the scuttle that its hard to actually see if its clogged let alone being able to clear it. Resulting in pond smelling air that wafts into the cabin.
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luckyseven
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Jun 10, 2017 11:35:25 GMT
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Phaeton is derived from Greek mythology. Phaethon (with an extra "h") was the illegitimate son of Helios the sun God; Greek gods loved to spread their seed far and wide and frequently fathered an entire squadron of bastards with human laydees (Oh, no husband, I wasn't unfaithful to you, it must have been a God... he appeared to me as a swan/shower of gold/satyr/delete as applicable and ravished me before I could say 'I'm spoken for, fella'). Anyway, in an effort to prove his divinity, Phaethon took his father's chariot, which pulled the sun across the sky, to show what a puissant demigod he really was. Unable to control Helios' mighty horses, he went out of control and the sun was getting too close to the Earth. Realising the planet was about to get burned up, Zeus luzzed a thunderbolt at it, stopped global calamity but unfortunately also blowing Phaethon into his constituent atoms. well, it could have happened Phaetons are thus named because they are open to the sun. The VW Phaeton is therefore an utter aberration on every level. Arguably even blashpemous... And becos thread need picktchers and in keeping with the OP, have a 512/Testarossa thing with an outright crime against wheels Front Back Really?
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Jun 10, 2017 11:57:32 GMT
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Moderns that wink their fog lights at you when turning a corner! Does it really help or just the gimmick i think it is?
With the OP about the alloys, but don't know if i prefer my Mondeo Turbines digging in or swooshing by!
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mgmrw
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Jun 10, 2017 13:54:25 GMT
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A few over the years...
Alfa 146 breadvan. That seating position? How was it so bad, so high, and yet the car drove so well.
Saab 9-3 (06) - the PAS. So close to being a brilliant handling saloon car, but the PAS is devoid of feel, and twitchy at speed. So corners at 60+ you clip the kerb/grass.
04 Honda CRV - squeaky clutch pedal. They all do it. FML.
The 1600tdci for engine. It's French. When in French cars it's epic. High mpg and strong. WTF did ford do to it? 37mpg and gutless.
Jaguar XK8 - cockpit space. Dad had his 5 years. I loved the look of it. But anyone over 6ft had to lube up to get behind the wheel.
Ford again. The 1800tdci engine. Why use it when the 2.0 PSA sourced unit is so much better in every way?
Gen7 Celica - gear change. Why? Such a good car. Then you give it the gear change from a HGV.
There'll be others....
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Ryannn
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Jun 10, 2017 14:24:26 GMT
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Moderns that wink their fog lights at you when turning a corner! Does it really help or just the gimmick i think it is? Haha, my current daily is the first I've had that does this. Makes no difference, the only reason I know it does it is because I saw the reflection in the car in front!
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dikkehemaworst
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Jun 10, 2017 14:26:40 GMT
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What really bothered ( and still does btw ) and even prevented me from buying one is the styling on the front bumper of a fiat cinquecento sporting. Below the headlights in the front bumper are two long oval shaped airducktings , but only one of them has trim around it. For the love of god , WHY !!! still annoyed 25 years on...
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