moglite
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Feb 14, 2020 16:42:18 GMT
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Love the diagram 👍 How hard is Visio to learn? I need to make a bespoke wiring harness for my TVR that includes a lot of new items like ECu, engine wiring harness, Craig Davies water pump ECU and other things. It is a little awkward in some places, but not too bad really. I'm just scratching the surface of its capabilities with that diagram. Getting two colour wires should be simple, but isn't. You have to define each one as a pattern using the developer mode. Which is frustrating and time consuming. Things like my switches with funky pinouts. I drew them, added connection points and text, then grouped them into a single object, so they are easy to move. If that made any sense - you'll be fine  |
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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sonus
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Feb 14, 2020 16:46:25 GMT
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Love the diagram 👍 How hard is Visio to learn? I need to make a bespoke wiring harness for my TVR that includes a lot of new items like ECu, engine wiring harness, Craig Davies water pump ECU and other things. It is a little awkward in some places, but not too bad really. I'm just scratching the surface of its capabilities with that diagram. Getting two colour wires should be simple, but isn't. You have to define each one as a pattern using the developer mode. Which is frustrating and time consuming. Things like my switches with funky pinouts. I drew them, added connection points and text, then grouped them into a single object, so they are easy to move. If that made any sense - you'll be fine That made no sense so I’ll have go 🤣 |
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1968 TVR VIXEN S1 V8 Prototype
2004 TVR T350C
2017 BMW 340i
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BMW 325d E91LCI - sold
Alfa Romeo GTV - sold
Citroen AX GT - at the breakers
Ford Puma 1.7 - sold
Volvo V50 2.0d - sold
MGB GT - wrecked by fire
MG ZT 1.8T - sold
VW E-golf Electric - sold
Mini Countryman 1.6D -sold
Land Rover Discovery TD5 - sold
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Feb 14, 2020 17:25:15 GMT
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Like this thread and some nice work on the wiring. I also spend a fair amount of time on the wiring of my MGB V8 conversion and added some fuses and relays and it seems to help as the car with a lot of Lucas components is on the road for 10 years without a single electrical problem.
I also added relays on the main and dip beams (halogene ones) but you are not going to fit those?
Peter
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moglite
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Feb 14, 2020 21:45:29 GMT
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I also added relays on the main and dip beams (halogene ones) but you are not going to fit those? Peter Thanks Peter - I did wonder about relays for the headlights. But I don't think I'll be doing much night-time driving, so it might not be worth the complication. Do you find your headlights are appreciably better ? |
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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Feb 14, 2020 21:51:18 GMT
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Fantastic work , much respect on the quality of the work you are doing
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2003 W211 Mercedes E class
1989 Sierra sapphire
1998 ex bt fiesta van
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Feb 14, 2020 22:28:12 GMT
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I also added relays on the main and dip beams (halogene ones) but you are not going to fit those? Peter Thanks Peter - I did wonder about relays for the headlights. But I don't think I'll be doing much night-time driving, so it might not be worth the complication. Do you find your headlights are appreciably better ? well actually, i have not done much night riding either and the resto has taken a few years so i could not compare it very well. I do drive during daylight with the light on so i believed the relays are of help. What i also noticed that the earth wire thichness on the standard loom was rather thin in some places, especially near the headlight, horns and fans. There were a lot of items taking a fair bit of amps and they all ended on 1 or 2 earthwires of the same thickness so i ended fitting double earth wires and made more connections to the body. It seems the loss is less so. It is a bit like connecting a few hoses on 1 return hose of the same thickness. The return hose is the limiting item and in electrical term, you will loose voltage there.
Keep up the good work as it is a joy to read! Peter
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moglite
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Feb 15, 2020 21:50:34 GMT
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Back in the garage this afternoon. Job in hand was to cut out the remnants of the front cross-member and see how how much of the inner chassis rails needs chopping out. I had two dustpans full of Morris after this piece of surgery. The drivers side  The passenger side is pretty much the same, but on the other side   Plating the rails shouldn't be that difficult, but I need to make sure I don't "paint myself into a corner" as access isn't great. I wan't to get the rails plated, and the cross-member bent up, and welded in before lifting the car up and doing the underside. It'll keep me out of mischief for a bit. Thanks for looking. |
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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scimjim
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Only had a quick look but I can’t see how the horn relay is working?
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Feb 16, 2020 11:45:50 GMT
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I've been suffering from a very small bout of man-flu this week. So instead of being in the garage making it work, I've been doing some planning on the wiring. snip Thanks for not looking too closely ================= When I was working I found visio a real trial to learn and use so I produced a new diagram for my series iv in Powerpoint which is if anything even more frustrating, but much easier to learn. I also swapped every light for an LED... except the dynamo light as an LED won't trigger the alternator..... When finished, I had an electrical engineer give it the once over. |
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moglite
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Feb 16, 2020 22:07:51 GMT
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scimjim - I'll take a look at that horn relay - cheers  59traveller - I've done a few wiring diagrams in powerpoint too. Whilst LEDs have some safety benefits - I'm not convinced they look right on old cars. I'll see how I get on with regular bulbs first. Today I did a bit of fab Plated the chassis legs. Not completely finished, but enough to get a front cross-member back it.  Then start bending up the front cross-member, which originally was this kinda shape, so I tried to remain faithful to the original shape. But I think it'll be a bit stronger than the original.  Here it is roughly in place.  A simple right-angle piece will box it into a "box section" I'm not staying particularly faithful to the original dimensions, but adding a bit more strength. But before I can weld it into place, I need to take this opportunity to clean/paint the inside of the front valance, whilst I've got some decent access. I also need to plate over the starting handle hole - that isn't getting used again.
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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Feb 26, 2020 19:19:33 GMT
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moglite
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Feb 26, 2020 20:25:15 GMT
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Yep - they did diesels Their target market was ex F1 drivers and Evil Knievel's offspring ..... not. |
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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Feb 26, 2020 21:16:11 GMT
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Yep - they did diesels Their target market was ex F1 drivers and Evil Knievel's offspring ..... not. The petrol ones were slow enough hate to think how slow a geriatric B series oil burner would be |
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Feb 26, 2020 21:49:20 GMT
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Yep - they did diesels Their target market was ex F1 drivers and Evil Knievel's offspring ..... not. The petrol ones were slow enough hate to think how slow a geriatric B series oil burner would be does not have an accelerator pedal, it only adjusts the output noise |
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Feb 27, 2020 10:29:31 GMT
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That looks like the little 1500cc diesel, its a good little engine but not in a car! It was used in loads of tractors and boats, still very popular in fact my tractor has one!
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Feb 27, 2020 11:55:24 GMT
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Nice work on the loom design, when I smoked mine I made several photo copies of the diagram and broke it down to systems. I then coloured them in which made life easier.
Keep up the good work!
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1966 Ford Cortina GT
2018 Ford Fiesta ST
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moglite
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Mar 18, 2020 12:32:55 GMT
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As I had secured a full day in the garage on Saturday, it was back to finishing off the front cross-member.... Bottom section welded in, with some drain holes, which will initially be used to fill full of wax. Then primered. Top section folded up and primered ready to be welded into place  With that seamed into place, I could continue The little panel that completes the radiator panel was next on the fabrication list.  That went in without too many drama. I also made a couple of infill panels for the valance top plate  I didn't want to go to the time and expense of replacing that Valance top plate. It is quite an extensive panel, and unpicking the whole front end didn't really appeal. Especially as it can't be seen, and I plan to fit an oil cooler there, and possibly mount a remote servo too.  That all cleaned up reasonably well.  But even the centre mount for the grille has rusted out and been removed at some point. Another little thing I'll have to sort. This car has obviously had a really hard life. |
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Last Edit: Mar 18, 2020 12:34:25 GMT by moglite
1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Mar 18, 2020 12:47:22 GMT
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One of the things I originally really liked about my Morris, was the full length folding sunroof. But when I replaced the headlining awhile ago, the shocking state of the front and back panels meant I couldn't refit it. To keep the car usable I made a plywood panel, and upholstered it on the outside, and put in a headliner on the inside. It was a pretty fair job although I say so myself  I'm always on the hunt for spares. Once it dawned on my the sunroof was made by Weathershields, and not Webasto or similar. I found one on the the right size that had been stored for 20 years.  The inner frame isn't perfect, but I hope when I strip it down it is better than my original (on the right) If it hasn't been bodged with ali plates and Sikaflex, then it has to be better !! This is my original headliner, I don't think it is going to be too difficult to make a pattern from that, and get it to match the headliner in the car.  The original vinyl cover is almost perfect. But I'm tempted to use some Furniture Clinic vinyl paint, to change the colour to light grey to match the paint on the roof, now the vinyl roof is long gone. What do you all think ? |
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Last Edit: Mar 18, 2020 12:50:14 GMT by moglite
1967 Morris Oxford Traveller
1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40
1993 Daimler Double Six
2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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Mar 18, 2020 12:59:19 GMT
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I don't think I've ever really noticed it has a sunroof, haha.
Do you have any full car pics that show it well?
Looking back to page 1 you can see the obvious hole in your collection pics, and then the new panel goes on and the perspective mostly hides the panel, haha.
I think if you can get it the same colour grey it will be ok, but if it's not the same, I think it'd be better with the maroon.
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Last Edit: Mar 18, 2020 13:02:07 GMT by varelse
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v8ian
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Mar 18, 2020 14:39:23 GMT
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Just has a strange thought, I wonder how hard it would be to fit a MGB crossmember, or use mgb rack mounts on the Oxford crossmember
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Last Edit: Mar 18, 2020 14:40:05 GMT by v8ian
Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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