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May 25, 2017 20:56:28 GMT
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I understand with a full car licence, gained before 2001, i can ride a 50cc moped with no L plates
If i take a CBT i can ride over 50cc and up to 125cc with L plates
My questions are:
Without the CBT does the moped have to be restricted to (ie to 30mph)?
With a CBT would a moped still have to be restricted?
With a CBT is there any restriction on an up to 125cc bike?
Does the CBT need renewing after two years even with a full driving licence?
Is it worth it, easy, and/or highly punishable to remove the restrictor? what sort of speed can a 50cc 'ped do?
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May 26, 2017 10:53:32 GMT
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ill give it a go to the best of my knowledge I understand with a full car licence thats if you have the entitlement q1 yes q2 yes q3 yes no more than 12.5 bhp ie no 33 bhp aprillas ! oops q4 yes this is without going into long winded whys n weres lol here can help also begin-motorcycling.co.uk/uk-motorcycle-laws/ |
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mylittletony
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May 26, 2017 11:05:39 GMT
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Corolla/rolla has it nailed.
A moped is a vehicle category, your licence doesn't affect that.
You can have unrestricted 50cc (for example most Honda C50s, without going into boring details) but they are classed as motorcycles, not mopeds, and come under the "up to 125" license category
p.s. certain aprilias were 33hp de-restricted.
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May 26, 2017 11:13:40 GMT
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Corolla/rolla has it nailed. You can have unrestricted 50cc and come under the "up to 125" license category So with a CBT the 50cc moped can be derestricted? Edit, i see those Honda C50s are quite old so were never restricted originally? |
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May 26, 2017 11:17:20 GMT
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Corolla/rolla has it nailed. You can have unrestricted 50cc and come under the "up to 125" license category So with a CBT the 50cc moped can be derestricted? Yes... but it's no longer a moped (legally, you'll have to update the V5) and you'd have to carry L-plates. Basically, you can't just de-restrict it and razz round (legally) you 'have' to register it as a 50cc motorbike. |
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May 26, 2017 11:19:27 GMT
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So with a CBT the 50cc moped can be derestricted? Yes... but it's no longer a moped (legally, you'll have to update the V5) and you'd have to carry L-plates. Basically, you can't just de-restrict it and razz round (legally) you 'have' to register it as a 50cc motorbike. Yes but can that be done with a driving licence and a CBT? |
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May 26, 2017 11:35:39 GMT
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i wouldnt bother do the cbt (it is easy ) get yourself a 125 ! (miles more safe than a 30mph moped !! )
with moped yes you can tune them (been there done that ) 70cc kits light rollers different variators expansion chambers etc etc but in my experience (with 4 boys all had "tuned mopeds") they last 5mins there no designed these days to be pushed to the limits cheap chinese curse word
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May 26, 2017 11:43:46 GMT
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What sort of speed might a limited 125 scooter-style bike do?
There is one stretch of national speed limit road near me which i'd like to use but someone going significantly slower would be dangerous
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May 26, 2017 11:49:11 GMT
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Look on the back of your licence
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Last Edit: May 26, 2017 11:52:29 GMT by usedabused
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May 26, 2017 11:49:33 GMT
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Yes... but it's no longer a moped (legally, you'll have to update the V5) and you'd have to carry L-plates. Basically, you can't just de-restrict it and razz round (legally) you 'have' to register it as a 50cc motorbike. Yes but can that be done with a driving licence and a CBT? yes, it becomes the same as any other sub-125cc bike. Learner legal 125 should do 65mph. I wouldn't want to do that for long though. Avoid cheap Chinese bikes, they're built to a price and just don't last. |
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May 26, 2017 11:53:02 GMT
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Look on the back of your lisence I'm not trying to find out what i am entitled to I am trying to find out more about those entitlements |
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May 26, 2017 11:55:52 GMT
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Yes but can that be done with a driving licence and a CBT? Learner legal 125 should do 65mph That's good At least it allows you to get out of your own way |
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May 26, 2017 12:06:08 GMT
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Look on the back of your licence Actually it's funny you mention that, it does have something which i'm not sure about  AM means 50cc up to 28mph A means 'You can drive: motorbikes with a power output more than 35kW or a power to weight ratio more than 0.2kW/kg motor tricycles with a power output more than 15kW You can also drive motorbikes in categories A1 and A2.' Erm, ok What about 79(3) in column 12? |
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May 26, 2017 12:07:34 GMT
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if you do go the 125 route "don't" buy a chinese bike !! hondu suzuka tingtongtiddleeyepo youll thank me when your not broken down at the side of the road lol suzuki yamaha honda kawasaki all the way 80s preferred
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May 26, 2017 12:10:11 GMT
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if you do go the 125 route "don't" buy a chinese bike !! hondu suzuka tingtongtiddleeyepo youll thank me when your not broken down at the side of the road lol suzuki yamaha honda kawasaki all the way 80s preferred Yeh, that seems to be the consensus |
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May 26, 2017 12:11:37 GMT
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May 26, 2017 12:14:40 GMT
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May 26, 2017 12:57:55 GMT
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i wouldnt bother do the cbt (it is easy ) +1 crashing a scooter whilst on holiday was my only experience of riding a bike until this year, then did the CBT (and really enjoyed it!). Trying to get the direct to ride course sorted out now i've done the bike theory... |
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May 26, 2017 19:19:20 GMT
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+2, definitely do the CBT, it's easy, useful and relatively cheap. Then you'll want to get a full license, which I wouldn't recommend. Big bikes are boring, dangerous and no fun at all  |
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1989 Peugeot 205 GTi - stolen!
1983 Mazda RX7
1968 Rover P6 - also stolen.
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May 26, 2017 19:25:25 GMT
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My first bike on L plates was a 250cc MZ, then a 175cc NVT Trials.
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