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Apr 15, 2019 21:09:54 GMT
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That Jowett has definitely got some interesting engineering. You're not wrong. I spent quite a while last night trying to get my head around the anatomy. As far as I can see the engine sits low and right at the front, radiator over the bell housing? Gearbox more or less in the engine bay? Has it a relatively high flat floor with no tunnel and the prop under it? And the steering... Is that the steering linkage going over the gearbox? Fascinating design. |
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Apr 15, 2019 21:33:20 GMT
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I am at a stage where I could have done with pushing the Javelin outside so I could crack on with the Corsair - but I now have a load of bare metal on the Javelin so I just really ought to bite the bullet and get some paint on it - my usual it will only take a few hours to sort it - took all day Well as I have said before Chris it's your work shop it's not my place to question how or why you do things.
You have a deadline to have your Javelin done buy, I don't have a deadline for the Corsair to be done buy, it will be done when it's done.
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Last Edit: Apr 15, 2019 22:46:27 GMT by peteh1969
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Apr 15, 2019 21:49:20 GMT
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Did you also notice the slits into wheel arches? High pressure saturation point at the nose, low pressure into wheel arches.
Deliberate aero in 1950s?
Has independent front suspension and torsion bars too doesn't it?
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Apr 15, 2019 21:57:17 GMT
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Those chassis legs which hold the engine and gearbox are interestingly formed; they look twisted, but are clearly made that way. John
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Yes very interesting to see a partial repair - thanks for sharing. That Jowett has definitely got some interesting engineering - beginning to see the appeal of the brand. More about preservation than a restoration on the Javelin - it presents well but is far from perfect which is how I like it with a in period used patina but a solid car that's not ratty - the fact that its different is one of the reasons why I like them - they are also when compared with many other classics a very comfortable car to drive and out of all the classics that I have owned over the years (in excess of 20) I cant recall one that put a smile on my face has much has this one |
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Last Edit: Apr 16, 2019 6:29:05 GMT by Deleted
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That Jowett has definitely got some interesting engineering. You're not wrong. I spent quite a while last night trying to get my head around the anatomy. As far as I can see the engine sits low and right at the front, radiator over the bell housing? Gearbox more or less in the engine bay? Has it a relatively high flat floor with no tunnel and the prop under it? And the steering... Is that the steering linkage going over the gearbox? Fascinating design. Correct in your summery and yes that's the steering drag link that travels over the top of the bellhousing - its also a great to drive and quite nimble |
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Did you also notice the slits into wheel arches? High pressure saturation point at the nose, low pressure into wheel arches. Deliberate aero in 1950s? Has independent front suspension and torsion bars too doesn't it? Very much so - although not the initial design was not subject to wind tunnel testing - testing of the aerodynamics in later years produced a very low drag coefficient - the venting in the inner wings also allowed for the hot air drawn through the radiator which sits close to the bulkhead to dissipate and be drawn out of the area through the vents Suspension is independent and torsion bars all round - this can produce some body roll / lean on cornering but provided you have good tyres the car remains firm footed - very much a fun car to drive for a 1940 / 50's saloon car |
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Last Edit: Apr 16, 2019 6:45:24 GMT by Deleted
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Those chassis legs which hold the engine and gearbox are interestingly formed; they look twisted, but are clearly made that way. John The entire engine & gearbox relies on 2 mountings right at the very front on the chassis legs and a rear mount set up over the top of the gearbox tail shaft |
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Apr 16, 2019 19:46:39 GMT
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 Just some final prep this morning prior to paint  On it goes  Then demasked & once the paint was tack free - pushed outside  I am going to have sort the pushing motors about - I'm getting too old for this game - especially on gravel has the stuff just slides out from under my feet  None the less that's the main paintwork sorted for now - I placed the bonnet back on loosely just in case the weather turned - still lots to do - measured up for the trim materials that I need for the headlining - quite a few loose bits that I need to prep & paint up too and quite a few more bits due for delivery - I hope to get some work done on it over the Easter break all being well |
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Last Edit: Apr 16, 2019 19:48:06 GMT by Deleted
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Apr 16, 2019 20:14:59 GMT
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It looks fantastic.
Is that the brake reservoir you’ve left in situ and painted?
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Apr 16, 2019 20:20:33 GMT
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It looks fantastic. Is that the brake reservoir you’ve left in situ and painted? Thanks - Yes that's brake reservoir on the inner wing you have to keep an eye them has they rot out with all crud thrown at them off the road wheel - I have a new cap on order for the reservoir has what's on there currently is non original |
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Apr 16, 2019 20:22:54 GMT
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yes yes and yes....looking lovely.
could a caravan mover be modified to save the old bones when shifting carcasses chris??
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Apr 16, 2019 20:33:35 GMT
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yes yes and yes....looking lovely. could a caravan mover be modified to save the old bones when shifting carcasses chris?? Pete - There is a slight gradient both up to the workshop & into the parking area from the Lane - I was thinking something along the lines of a small motorised winch - bolt a floor anchor into the workshop and have a ground anchor at the top of the parking bay to attach the winch to - could be something quite simple but I would hate to be riddled with the sciatica again that I caught me out a few years ago when I was having to push the P6 onto the parking area from the Lane |
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Apr 16, 2019 21:31:44 GMT
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Chris
Could you make a land anchor that fitted on the old battery winch so you could put it in front of a car and pull it in to position?
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Apr 16, 2019 22:16:49 GMT
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Chris, Best to institute whatever solution you choose for jockying the cars sooner, rather than later... A bit pricey, but with an adapter designed to attach to and move cars replacing the ball mount, this could be a fun solution: Stay healthy, Lance |
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that is going to look very nice with the motor back in place...well done.
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Chris Could you make a land anchor that fitted on the old battery winch so you could put it in front of a car and pull it in to position? Pete - That's exactly what I have in mind |
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Pete - There is a slight gradient both up to the workshop & into the parking area from the Lane - I was thinking something along the lines of a small motorised winch - bolt a floor anchor into the workshop and have a ground anchor at the top of the parking bay to attach the winch to - could be something quite simple but I would hate to be riddled with the sciatica again that I caught me out a few years ago when I was having to push the P6 onto the parking area from the Lane I have this exact system to drag the odd immobile car into my shed, a removable anchor in the floor and an old small electric cable winch to drag the car up the incline from the driveway to the garage. Not used very often but saves a LOT of cursewords trying to push anything into the garage.. mine is also a graveled drive. Its not that often that I have a dead motor to move but my days of humping stuff about like this on gravel gradients are done and I realise I need to sort a system - its also nice to know that someone else has a similar system that works and that my initial idea is not that 'Madcap' |
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Last Edit: Apr 17, 2019 8:02:01 GMT by Deleted
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i can fully sympathise with the sciatica...literally a pain in the rse! agreed , a cheap winch with a decent length of cable and a remote switch and you are sorted. ride in and out like a lord!! nothing madcap about the idea at all.... you just need to get a little creative as a one man band. i was over thinking the problem with a caravan mover. i don't think I'm dreaming it but i think you can even get wireless remote switches to make it even easier. |
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Last Edit: Apr 17, 2019 8:26:41 GMT by strikey
'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Iainr
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The paintwork look great. I am not getting any younger and for health reasons, I use a small garden tractor for moving my trailers and dead cars around. I have a homemade fixed drawbar for cars. As these little tractors are small they can be loaded onto a trailer along with a dead car and used for moving at remote locations. In some conditions you need to load the back axle to maintain traction and for that reason I would recommend an old Bolens or Wheelhorse. Bolens supplied attachments that fitted to the rear weighing up to 250kg, so the nose weight of a trailer is not an issue. I would not recommend using a newer machine like a Westwood as the axles are not designed for load. Quick picture of my current trailer mover, which will easily pull any of my trailers or dead Land Rover's. I seem to recall my Ifor is about 800kg empty.  Just another suggestion for consideration Iain |
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