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This resto continues to just make me shake my head and smile. Your attention to detail and pace both impress and humble me. I will continue to watch from the side, smiling. Rian - Many thanks - I hope that my restorations help / entertain other forum readers - I obtain a great deal of satisfaction from what I do and would like to think that this in turn inspires others to tackle the larger / more awkward jobs on their motors regardless of make / model etc - Cheers Chris
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Jun 18, 2017 10:42:41 GMT
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Thank you for that info.
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Jun 18, 2017 12:36:54 GMT
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your work inspires!...no doubt about that......I check the forum, get all over confident and inspired and then go out and have a go on my own vehicles....heck, even the garden tractor is not safe and is now back together after a full repaint!
thanks retro rides!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Jun 18, 2017 12:44:18 GMT
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never really played with aluminium much , until today. it was only the inset Peugeot logo from the boot handle on my 106 but it was a bit scuffed up and needed a repaint (too tight to buy new). managed to bend it "persuading" it off the car , so in a insignificantly tiny way I can grasp the skills required in working on a full size piece!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jun 20, 2017 21:03:32 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 20, 2017 21:14:32 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 21, 2017 19:42:25 GMT
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More profiling today and now starting to take shape this is the fourth skim - it normally takes between 5 to 8 skims to get panels of this degree returned to the correct profiles
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Jun 22, 2017 19:41:41 GMT
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Still plugging away - a lot more comfortable with the temperature drop though - lower 20's c today in the workshop Image probably doesn't look much different from yesterday - but front wing and door on the nearside now requires very minor works to complete the profiles Checked the front side lamp for aperture / profile fit - originally the side lamp now converted to front indicator and the side lamp relocated to the headlamp Profiling works also migrating to offside of the bonnet Also hosted a visit from Sid my quality control inspector
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vulgalour
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Jun 22, 2017 19:48:22 GMT
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The bodywork didn't look that bad until you started the filler work, this is going to end up smoother and shinier than Ross Kemp's head.
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The bodywork didn't look that bad until you started the filler work, this is going to end up smoother and shinier than Ross Kemp's head. Probably not in the pics but cast your eye down it in the flesh or run your hand over it and it had more peaks & troughs than the Grand Canyon - has for Ross Kemp's head - Maybe - but he won't have a opalescent metallic finish like this one when it's painted
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Last Edit: Jun 23, 2017 7:45:31 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 23, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
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Did Sid sign it off?
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glenanderson
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Jun 23, 2017 12:54:23 GMT
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Great work. I take my hat off to you.
My only input would be to recommend you don't use brass nuts and bolts to hold the aluminium wings on as you said you were planning to do a few pages back. Brass and aluminium are way too far away from each other on the electrolytic scale; you'll end up with big holes in the panels and green blobs where the nuts and bolts used to be. Zinc plated mild steel ones, assembled with plenty of anti-seize or Duralac, would be much more durable.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jun 23, 2017 15:51:45 GMT
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Myself and Sid have a perfect understanding of each other - he is well aware my high standards and will not let me get away with anything else - on the other hand he also has high standards when it comes to food - try to give anything else other than the right stuff and get ready for the grumpiest cat that you have ever met - other than that he has done very well since joining the household from a abandoned refugee status late last year - the only complaint that I have with him is his instance at waking me up at 6 every morning in the hope that he can have his breakfast early.
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Last Edit: Jun 23, 2017 16:00:57 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 23, 2017 15:59:56 GMT
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Great work. I take my hat off to you. My only input would be to recommend you don't use brass nuts and bolts to hold the aluminium wings on as you said you were planning to do a few pages back. Brass and aluminium are way too far away from each other on the electrolytic scale; you'll end up with big holes in the panels and green blobs where the nuts and bolts used to be. Zinc plated mild steel ones, assembled with plenty of anti-seize or Duralac, would be much more durable. Well aware of this but amazingly it's original from the factory - there is a piping bead that goes between the panels and a gasket washer on each side of the nut & bolt though so there was nothing excessive from a corrosion point of view around the bolt apertures when it came apart - a couple of bolt apertures had split on the panels but this was more down to knocks that the panels had received over the cars 67 year lifespan than corrosion through dissimilar metals
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glenanderson
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Jun 23, 2017 17:56:23 GMT
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Cool. As long as you know. The washers and the beading probably did enough to keep them apart.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jun 23, 2017 20:47:20 GMT
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So on the profiling completion list for today Nearside door Nearside A post & bulkhead to centre of car Nearside front wing Meanwhile the nearside & centre sections of the bonnet are on their fourth skim And profiling works commenced on the offside front wing
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Last Edit: Jun 23, 2017 20:48:56 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 26, 2017 22:10:56 GMT
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More done - bonnet centre section & nearside flute 90% completed just requires the glaze sanding back in the morning Offside bonnet flute well on it's way and offside front wing on it's second skim I appreciate that on viewing the images that the bonnet / front of the vehicle in fact all the vehicle looks like it's covered in filler - well it is but remember this is merely a thin skimming in order to correct the profiles nothing in excess of 3mm - 5mm deep has been applied - the panels are 95% original and in being so are 67 years old - had numerous repairs and covered well over 500,000 miles - replacements are not available unless you were willing to pay something in the region of £20k to have all new panels made - so it is the only option - I work no different than any other competent vehicle restorer other than the fact that I don't mind demonstrating how it's done
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eurogranada
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I don't think you have anything to explain... Filler used apropriately is perfectly acceptable. It just goes to show the kind of finish you are going for!
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Jun 27, 2017 10:42:03 GMT
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being aluminium and in some cases made from multi segments, would the panels have been perfect from the factory ?
i'm rationalising not very
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Jun 27, 2017 20:53:47 GMT
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I don't think you have anything to explain... Filler used apropriately is perfectly acceptable. It just goes to show the kind of finish you are going for! Some people are misinformed about filler - they tend to listen to myths rather than seek the truth and from here they form an opinion that anything with filler on it is a bodge - So firstly to dispel the myth - well it's actually not a myth - Filler is a bodge when it is used in place of a structural repair - i.e. put where it shouldn't be - used to plaster over rusty holes, used to fill deep areas of panel distortion, used in place of solid metal repairs that are correctly formed within tolerance of the original panels profile. However modern fillers when used correctly can reform panel profiles making previous repair sections / dings / dents & accident damage invisible - I have seen / witnessed literately thousands of classics restored over the last 40 years and can count on one hand the number that have been restored without the use of filler and in each case the cost of that filler less restoration has been in the hundreds of thousands of pounds - it can be done but at a huge cost. So both feet on the ground then - I would not do anything on a clients classic that I would not do on my own classics hence me bringing to the point the use of filler on restorations - has always there is a right way and there's the bodgers way
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Jun 27, 2017 21:01:36 GMT
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being aluminium and in some cases made from multi segments, would the panels have been perfect from the factory ? i'm rationalising not very Darren - very true - certainly the panel profiles, aperture gaps & quality of the paint finish will be significantly better than what they were when the car was new
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