|
|
Dec 18, 2016 14:25:57 GMT
|
If you've bothered to read any of my witterings so far, you'll have worked out I build competition cars and compete in rallies and hillclimbs/sprints. I've fitted plenty of cages to my own and customer cars, and have seen plenty of cages fitted in other cars (some very well done, some I'd be less keen to rely on in the event of an 'off')
But WTF is the point of a "show cage"? They look rubbish, and have as much structural value as a cheese straw. It's usually obvious they aren't the real thing. So why would you bother?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 15:20:05 GMT
|
Becauseracecar.... apparently.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 15:40:27 GMT
|
Hi, What's the price difference between one of your constructed and fitted competition cages and one made from bent up exhaust pipe? Therein lies your answer.
Colin
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 15:40:40 GMT
|
eh?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 15:44:11 GMT
|
But they don't look any more like a real cage, than one made up from plumbing components!
Presumably the spotty pubescent louts who fit these things to their Saxos fink dey look well bad, innit... - but they all know they are fake, so what's the point???
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 16:06:02 GMT
|
As shocking as it is to you, some people like that sort of thing. Some people also don't know the difference. But I guess I should bow down to your superior experience in the car world. Clearly doing anything different is sacrilege.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 16:13:01 GMT
|
To answer your question; objectively, there is clearly no benefit. For some though, they get some kicks from it. It makes them feel better about their car. I certainly wouldn't bother but I do other things that have no objective benefit, in fact, many many modifications we make to our cars are a waste of effort and money, but these sorts of things make life a little better and separate us from primates.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 16:20:50 GMT
|
Alolympic - I can appreciate (obviously) genuine performance enhancements and good quality paint etc., it's just the complete falsehood of show cages that I find baffling. All the ones I've seen have been very obviously false - some of them don't even reach the floor or rear arches, the feet simply hover in mid-air.
Nice Toledo, by the way. Small picture, but that exhaust looks like the old Triumphtune sports system that fitted the Sprint... I'm guessing the car's "not entirely standard" under the bonnet?
elmo - calm down, dear.
|
|
|
|
Porsche
West Midlands
Kev from B'ham.
Posts: 4,725
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 17:04:36 GMT
|
All the ones I've seen have been very obviously false - some of them don't even reach the floor or rear arches, the feet simply hover in mid-air. A magic hovering roll cage... Now I'd like to see one of them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 17:16:33 GMT
|
There's a lot of things I don't get. These cages being one of them. But, at the end of the day whatever blows your hair back. Coupled with redonculous amounts of camber on over stretched tyres, and you do really start to wonder how much longer can we carry on scraping the bottom of the gene pool ....😉
|
|
|
|
|
Rich
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 6,248
Club RR Member Number: 160
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 17:53:31 GMT
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 18:37:44 GMT
|
Nice cages :-) I just take the view that if you want to look as if you go racing, the easiest and most convincing way to do it is to GO racing. It costs less than you think and you get the massive buzz of really doing it. My car, fully built to a genuinely competitive spec and ready to run up a hill, has cost almost exactly £4500 all-in, and my budget for a season is under £1k. The car's fully road-legal and driven to every championship round - albeit it's less than practical for more than two people due to the back seat being permanently down and the front seats don't tip :-) THIS is what a cage is for ;-)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 18:49:22 GMT
|
PS THIS is what I really, really want... I'd have to sell my children, my dog and probably a kidney in order to just dream of being able to afford a real Stratos, but a replica would still have a lot of the dynamic qualities and would look pretty spectacular. And if you take all its clothes off, it looks like this.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 18:51:36 GMT
|
Is this not just a long winded way of advertising that you make roll cages?
Its just form over function, part of modification which has been done for years. Leave people to it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 18:58:03 GMT
|
jaykay: Nope, not trying to advertise anything - other than maybe advertising function over non-functional form.
|
|
|
|
melle
South West
It'll come out in the wash.
Posts: 1,983
|
|
Dec 18, 2016 22:39:34 GMT
|
Bit like wheel trims that look like alloys?
|
|
www.saabv4.com'70 Saab 96 V4 "The Devil's Own V4" '77 Saab 95 V4 van conversion project '88 Saab 900i 8V
|
|
|
|
Dec 19, 2016 10:17:15 GMT
|
My wife's car and one of mine had those disgusting plastic trims that purport to look like alloys. Now we just roll with the steel rims. I actually like black steel rims.
|
|
|
|
mylittletony
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,342
Club RR Member Number: 84
|
|
Dec 19, 2016 13:06:50 GMT
|
Because not everything about car modifying is about function. Have an extended browse of the forum and you'll see that The world is a weird and wonderful place, enjoy the diversity.
|
|
|
|
bortaf
Posted a lot
Posts: 4,549
|
|
Dec 19, 2016 14:44:17 GMT
|
I know of at least 3 show cars, well road cars that are rally reps, used on the road only but have fake cages in them IE show cages not for real strengthening but to compleat the look of a rally car, 1 is a replica of a particular rally car the other 2 are just rally reps, we used handrails (from a disabled converted house pathway) in one of them to make the cage, looks great if you don't actually get in the car and look but it's what the owner wanted. So in short they have a reason just no function, a bit like a wild paint job or those hubcaps that look like alloy wheels.
|
|
R.I.P photobucket
|
|
steveg
Posted a lot
Posts: 1,565
|
|
Dec 19, 2016 14:47:26 GMT
|
If I wanted to build a car for road use and wanted a roll cage for whatever reason the insurance companies usually sting you a lot for having a proper one fitted. Not sure if show cages came about because of this or if it's just that you can have a car with a cage look without having to weld in mounting plates or cutting holes in bits of trim, you can also put the car back to standard then as well.
|
|
|
|
|