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Dec 13, 2017 11:19:53 GMT
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Haha yeah not sure how well it would fare in that event, but grass roots drag racing and 1/4 1/8 street racing in the US, both of which I love... I suspect it could be over if more and more people start turning up in Teslas.
I guess it just becomes a nostalgia event, protected by nostalgia rules like the Southern Gassers series.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:09:34 GMT
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Ahhhh hahahah, never seen that before. Cheers Phil. I await the day the Flux-Capacitor pistol whips that P100D Tesla for the hell of it.
Will be reading up on this project with interest.
I still think it's a shame the UK Lightning GT project stalled when it had been so close to being one of the first sexy EVs to market way way back in the early 2000s. It resides perpetually in development hell, and now looking at the proposed stats it stands no chance in it's current developmental form. 0-60 in about 4 seconds, top speed of 175, range of 300 miles.... nahhh. Not even close to good enough anymore.
Shame though. Lovely looking car.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:22:48 GMT
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Drag Racing is my passion. I can't see the noise, smell & drama going anytime soon - they will just change the rules and make electric vehicles run in their own class. It is a shame though that the big buck corporation Tesla has/will take our Jonny's world record back.
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-(
10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily
03 Import Forester STi - Sold
98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-(
99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold
02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX
88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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Dec 13, 2017 13:37:46 GMT
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Interesting isn't it. I look at things now, by definition, as to how something like this could happen here. And I wonder. Electric cars are, possibly, wonderful things but... I've worked on railways all over the world and, like any business, staff costs are almost always the highest operational expenditure. Not here. The cost of power far outweighs anything else, by a huge factor. On a more local level, electricity is by far my biggest monthly bill. We have only coal/gas power stations with no natural resources, so everything is shipped and, unlike the UK, there are no undersea cables with neighbours to share power. As a consequence, not only is it expensive, it's also bloody unreliable. Blackouts, or 'brownouts' as they are called here (sounds better?) are regular. And that's just in Manila. Half of the rest of the country has none anyway. So the rich west  will no doubt move towards the moral high ground of "pollution free" vehicles and then point wagging fingers at the rest for not doing the same. I've seen it since I've been living here with the US, and Europe saying, "You have to do something to stop people buying cars" having spent decades doing the same. How do you tell a guy who's Dad had a bullock cart, has now managed to buy a motorbike and has his eye on buying a car ('cos everyone on TV has got one and, more to the point, his social status takes a huge leap) that he can't have one because it might damage the planet? Unless he buys electric of course, If only there was somewhere to plug it in!  |
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Dec 13, 2017 13:40:49 GMT
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I see a business opportunity... Bullock dynamo treadmills.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:43:03 GMT
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Drag Racing is my passion It's mine too although I don't get to indulge it very often. I think it would be good to create a new class for EVs as otherwise they're really just ruining the competitive drama of real drag racing. I think with it's own class it will be put in its place and stripped of its bombast. A few EVs humming silently up the track might be a lot faster, but it could only ever be a prelude to the real action. =) |
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Dec 13, 2017 13:46:57 GMT
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Exactly that Tim. Technology has it's place and the hallowed strip isn't it.
I have many good friends that are current UK racers. One of my pals has a rear engined MK1 Fiesta that run's 9's! I am also good friends with Chris, the owner of a new Dodge Viper being reborn this year as a pro-mod so I get to go quite often.
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-(
10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily
03 Import Forester STi - Sold
98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-(
99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold
02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX
88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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Dec 13, 2017 13:53:23 GMT
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Maybe 24 Minutes du Mans? |
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Dec 13, 2017 15:22:08 GMT
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I'm hoping to get up to Santa Pod more next year. I returned for the first time in years this summer to see Willys Wars and to cheer on local lad Phil Moules in his 41 Coupe. Aside from that I watch the Gasser events in the US and in particular the South East Gassers event started by Quain Stott. I'm hoping to take a trip to see that myself in the next couple of years. My heart is really with the old school runners. www.southeastgassers.com/ |
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Dec 14, 2017 10:17:54 GMT
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If you run or attend MSA events then don't expect to see electric competition vehicles out on many clubman events.
In order to run an electric vehicle as a competition vehicle you need specially trained marshals and 40,000 litres of water available to deal with any electric cars on fire, an area set aside for the fire damaged vehicle to be kept in for a period of 24hrs to cool off.
As a fire engine typically holds 1800 litres of water we would need all of the available greater Belfast area fire engines just to run one of our two hillclimbs.
That just isn't feasible.
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Dec 14, 2017 11:46:27 GMT
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Well, hurray for that! ^
It should keep them from ruining everybody's fun for a while longer.
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Dec 14, 2017 12:01:10 GMT
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Here's an odd one....
I tend to be hypersensitive to any aspect of my car's running... I'm an un-repentent auto worrier and I prefer to anticipate problems as soon as they start to hint at their presence.
I doubt there is any correlation here but.... Lately I've noticed my car felt like it has a bit of spluttering hesitation. Not a great deal... just not quite on the ticket somehow. It has fresh plugs, and I recently changed the coil. I felt confident it was one of the old, battered HT leads breaking up. I purchased a new set of HT leads when I first got the car and it came with a misfire, but I hadn't fitted them because new sparkplugs - that weren't broken in two like the ones it came with - had instantly sorted it out.
So I dropped the new leads on this morning, and I've just been out for a good two hour hoon around the highways and byways of East & West Sussex. It made such a difference. So smooth and responsive... it was clearly a failing HT lead. It feels like a different car altogether.
I decided to give it a really good blast round and get the revs up on sustained distances, just to cough out anything that had built up through faltering burn. I've been driving non-stop for two hours. All very very good.
Got back and decided to have another check on the smokey breathing from my oil breather cap. Barely anything. A feint wisp maybe if you were being really pedantic, but that was it.
Not entirely sure how, exactly, a misfiring HT lead would create visible evidence of a what smelled like exhaust gas from the breather cap previously, but it does seem to have had an effect. Maybe it just really needed that good blast round to kick out the jams... I don't know, but my impressions at this point is that the smokey breathing worry could possibly be resolved. Will have to see if that remains the case or not.
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Dec 14, 2017 12:41:04 GMT
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I liked that last post purely because you have spent two hours honing around in the Scimitar. |
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Dec 14, 2017 12:44:24 GMT
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Hahaha, yes... I do like to waffle on but the main and most important part was definitely the hooning aspect of it all.
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Dec 14, 2017 13:00:55 GMT
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I think that the lead swap is responsible for the improvement in running, and the hoon about is responsible for sorting out the breathing issue. You maybe had some carbon buildup gumming up the rings a bit and your “Italian tune-up” has allowed things to get properly hot and burn everything off.
I used to do the annual service on my mum’s cars, and the “driving them like I’d stolen them” bit for two days made more of a difference after 363 days of pootling about or sitting doing nothing than all the oil/filters etc.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Dec 14, 2017 13:18:26 GMT
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I guess the other thing I should have mentioned is that I gave the filler/breather cap a ruddy good clean a couple of nights ago. It seemed to be breathing okay (I put the fat bit in my mouth and blew a ring of turdery back onto my face) but it was a filthy mess, so that had a really good soak, shake and smack to clear it. That may also be a factor therefore.
I like to start with the easy stuff first. = )
Still need to change the rocker covers gaskets though, so I'll read up up on what to look for / test / adjust / clean when I've got them off, and then see what I find.
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CaptainSlog
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Welcome back, the Scim club's loss is our gain. Love your long rambling posts, please don't stop. A place for the unrepentant halfwit to ask stupid questions and blather on about any old tosh. That about sums it up for me!  A large part of the attraction of drag racing is the noise, smell and smoke. An electric car has no place on a drag strip - I do not see them taking over from infernal combustion engines any time soon. We petrolheads are here 'till we all die out, I cannot see anyone getting passionate about a few batteries and electric windings unless they are from California (the people, not the batteries and windings.) |
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I'd agree that a mixture of 6 working cylinders and a good old fashioned hoon have helped with the breathing issue - a misfire being incomplete combustion, so the rings aren't actually forced in to sealing correctly. The Italian tune-up will have allowed the rings to re-seal again and do their job properly now.
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Phil: Ah yes, I guess from the perspective of a valve not being closed fully, it makes more sense. Personally I would have thought that with all valves being forced by a single solid-state cam shaft, the other five cylinders would have taken care of that chamber's valves, but if not then that would definitely be the culprit! I wouldn't say my car had a distinct misfire though... it was likely more of a weakening, faltering feeling. The HT leads have made a profound difference, but previously the car wasn't running like a misfiring engine.... just a very vague bit of falter. It had only started to feel that way on the last few trips I took... one of which resulted in my fuel pump blowing itself up and the car having to be dragged home again... so not exactly a clear-cut case for diagnosis. I had already decided the fuel delivery needed an overhaul, so I had assumed that was the cause of the faltering feeling. I'm not a great believer in additives and chemical tools personally, but I have been wondering lately whether I might have a go with Seafoam. Americans are so good at disguising guerrilla marketing as genuine independent user reviews, so I watch and read reports about Seafoam with a degree of skepticism, but there are a hell of a lot of people out there swearing by a Seafoam de-coke. The only thing that I'm still cautious about is that they all report great results after they've just completed the treatment, and not 3000 miles later. I'd really like to know that people have done it and their engine didn't fall apart from the inside out a year later. Also thinking of trying that insanely gelatinous Lucas oil additive as a conditioner for aging engines. Again... lots of glowing reports about for that.   === CaptainSlog: Cheers. I do like a good long ridiculous ramble. I think it exercises an unmet need in my life. I use to work in 'the creative industries' whatever they are, and now, I no longer do. But something up there keeps spinning and it needs an escape. I view my rambling as a kind of PCV for a redundant component of my psyche that needs a release so it doesn't crack the casing, but I'm always very aware that some might enjoy it and others might find it irritating, off-topic, puerile or whatever. I think in places where the content is more general I can get away with prattling on about nothing. The Scim club were/are a great bunch of people and frankly my car wouldn't have been transformed, mechanically-speaking from the faltering, sputtering, leaking mess it was when I got it to the daily driver it is today without many people's guidance and advice over there. But... it is a club for discussing Scims, and I am at a total disadvantage in that I know almost curse word all about Scims, so my prattling over there probably felt more like a form of trolling than anything constructive. When I started to feel that, I cut back to just updating about my car, and at that point I started to feel like my crank case might crack from withholding so much accumulated balderdash. So apologies to those who do find it irritating, but until my next work project starts up in January, I'm probably going to be doing a fair amount of it. Try to think of your suffering as a benevolent 'care in the community' act of tolerance towards somebody with an illness. There's a condition called hypergraphia... an addiction to writing. I think I have it. |
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will no doubt move towards the moral high ground of "pollution free" vehicles and then point wagging fingers at the rest for not doing the same.
