pavel
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Looking for some RR advice...
I've got a council garage that I rent as current house hasn't got any off-street parking. Unfortunately it's not got any power or light in it.
Occasionally, I think I'd need to use an angle grinder or maybe even a welder? So was thinking rather than investing in a 18v li-ion grinder or sander given I've got perfectly good 240V ones, how realistic is it to just use a generator?
My main concern is noise... the lock-ups are in a residential area, and I don't really want to run it if it's particularly loud... For reference, an air cooled fiat 500 idling is definitely too loud in a closed space.
Has anyone had any experience with a genny (maybe one of the "quiet" ones) in such a situation?
Thanks Pavel
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The generator would be quieter than the grinder, but the noise they make is louder and more annoying than even a fairly loud idling car engine.
What about using an inverter off your car battery?
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foldy
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This is something I've given thought to.
I think I'd be more tempted to go for the li-ion choice, you can use them anywhere and much more easy to transport than a jenny.
These lockups are quite tight for space, and although not huge, the jenny could end up in the way.
And you'd have to leave the jenny in the lockup, but you can take your tools with you.
And theres the issue of fumes, not hard to get around, but something to bear in mind.
Surely a set of hitachi 18V tools is about the same cost of a jenny too??
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I did just that, 20 years ago. Was OK at first, but eventually the neighbours got curse word off. Also, the noise would attract all the local scrotes, so you wouldn't have a genny for very long.
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I've used generators a lot, my project car in the rides section was built using generators for almost all of the work including the welding.
A big one will be too noisy indoors, I put mine outdoors and built a kind of generator shed for it with louvred sides. My garage was a reasonable distance from houses.
My friend is restoring a MK1 Astra using generator power too, but he has a large generator in the garage next door to muffle the noise, it is right beside houses and the residents are happy.
The tiny generators that are 850 watts etc will run a small grinder, drill etc no problem and can be very quiet without spending a lot of money. That the way I would be tempted to go, if you buy battery tools then every time you want to use a different tool type you need to buy one, and you have the frustration of flat batteries.
Maybe try a second hand very small generator and if you find it too loud just sell it again.
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My two cents: if you do manage to get work done at mid day during the weekdays then frankly I see no issue. And for welding, good luck with some 12v portable welder! I take it the car isn't road legal? Because if it was, you could bite the bullet and weld it at a friend's house, potentially?
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brachunky
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Generator noise in lock up?brachunky
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I am in the same situation as you and put together my own "system" which has worked well for nearly three years: I have 2 12v 10w led spotlamps powered off a 110amp leasure battery which I take home for a charge every few months. I also have 4 230v 10w spotlamps which run off a 500w inverter if needed. Small tools such as a baby grinder,dremels small drill press run off the same inverter and on the rare occassion I need a bit more power, a used £50 genny gets used. Obviously a welder, air compressor & the like are no go's!
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An angle grinder is actually going to be far louder, and annoying / noticeable, to neighbours than a generator. My council lock-up strictly prohibits working on car - just to be used for storage only. All tenants received a letter a while ago reminding about this rule and informing any infringement means eviction. Might be worth checking term of your tenancy.
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. And for welding, good luck with some 12v portable welder! For welding then, I speak from experience not ideas or theory. I did my project with a 150 amp SIP MIG welder in a rented allotment garage entirely using a generator for the welding, it also ran a small compressor for the paintwork which also worked well. The first generator I tried, knowing the likely consequence, was a cheapo 2.3 KVa one, it ran the welder for a time, then cooked. I then went out and bought a 3.8KVa generator second hand for £100 and completed the project, which was a huge amount of welding, here is the thread - retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181044/scrapyard-dodger-24v-carlton-g624xmeI'm now helping a friend in similar circumstances who has a generator roughly the same size as mine and a 110A Clarke welder, it works well. Something to note, the biggest problem item I found to run with a generator is flourescent tubes. I would recommend not fitting any in your garage, generators just cant regulate the voltage when running tubes, I cant remember why but after having lots of problems with several generators that couldnt hold voltage and were constantly hunting I read up on the problem and realised that with simple generators flourescent tubes are a bad idea. For lighting its easy to sort out 12v stuff or rechargeable that you take home with you after each session.
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I have a 1000w inverter which works well
Generators make a lot of noise. At least with grinders and drills they turn off when you're not actively using them. A generator just drones on until you turn it off
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Sept 1, 2016 20:21:31 GMT
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I'm a playground engineer and we carry all 110v power tools and a Honda generator around with us, until i started no one else had a cordless grinder until I bought one. It's ok for quick cut off, trim up, clean up for a weld jobs but grinding paint off swings and slides and longer jobs etc it's no good at all. If we're near houses we just start and stop the genny as required, and its quieter than the grinder. I've been in the same position as you and cut up mini shells with a hammer and chisel. That caused problems when k could have done the same job in a fifth of the time with a genny.
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