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Jul 14, 2016 13:27:39 GMT
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EDIT: I wanted to focus the flow of the thread, hence the new title.
Would I be able to do the majority of classic car tasks while being confined to a flat driveway, as opposed to garage?
Assuming the car had a decent cover, would this provide any large hindrances or issues that would get in the way of the car?
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 14, 2016 15:06:56 GMT
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Yes you'll be fine, I've done everything on my driveway including an engine swap in the middle of winter
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bortaf
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Jul 14, 2016 15:21:51 GMT
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Been working outside on cars for the last 30 years, even at my workshop we usually work outside when ever possable (better light/less fumes ect ect) it just meens you either wait or get wet when it rains, waterproofs really make you sweat and TBH you get wetter and smellyer wearing them than if you wore normal clothes in the rian mind you i'm a fat fook so sweat a lot anyway
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Jul 14, 2016 16:55:27 GMT
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I have a gravel driveway,great for raking over oil spills,pain in the rear for laying onand using jacks on,but i've taken off axles,gearboxes,engines etc etc so yes a driveway is fine.
Only thing to watch out for is the water run off when it rains,ie does it run to one side or end,does it pool anywhere.Obviously you don't want to have to lie in the bit that 'floods' ....
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Jul 14, 2016 18:17:28 GMT
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I have garage, carport & lock-up yet always work outside in drive ! Forget a cover. They simply aren't necessary. Far better to give the car a thick layer of polish if you are bothered. The only time I cover up a vehicle is if a convertible and hood leaking or working on a car so it doesn't looks a mess to neighbours if wings, doors etc missing Currently breaking my Disco - again in the drive although most of it is ended up on the floor as so rotten so gets swept up and into the wheelie bin. Only negative about working outside is the need to tidy tools away when you have finished whereas if in a garage you can just put them down and shut the door.
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Jul 14, 2016 21:01:16 GMT
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It's hard to show you without taking a picture, but here is the google earth picture of my Grandma's drive. Here is my Dad's drive as you can is even more sloped. Is there any way to jack up the car on a not-flat surface? And if I had to move the car onto the road, how annoying would it be to have to keep driving on and off, bearing in mind some big jobs make take longer than a day.
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 14, 2016 21:29:13 GMT
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My drive slopes on one side and I never have a problem jacking. Just ensure you have some decent wheel chocks. However don't even consider driving on & off the drive into the "public highway". You are under age, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, no VED so if a neighbour reports you to Police then you could find yourself banned from driving when you reach 17 !
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Jul 14, 2016 22:21:24 GMT
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My drive slopes on one side and I never have a problem jacking. Just ensure you have some decent wheel chocks. However don't even consider driving on & off the drive into the "public highway". You are under age, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, no VED so if a neighbour reports you to Police then you could find yourself banned from driving when you reach 17 ! Not to sound stupid (sorry!) but how would it be done safely, other than chocks? I take it Axle stands would work fine, too? Does my drive look too steep? Someone briefly mentioned to me an idea about using ramps to level the car, but that wouldn't work would it because the jack and car wouldn't be parallel?
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 14, 2016 22:59:34 GMT
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They look plenty flat enough to work on.
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They look plenty flat enough to work on. I wish I knew if you were right or not because those pictures look deceptive. I suppose the only way would be to measure the incline ...
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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taurus
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I have a sloped drive and often work on it. Usually it's no problem so long as you use a bit of common sense. But make sure the car is running up and down the slope not across it if you're doing any jacking. They have a habit of moving sideways when jacked across a slope.
I prefer to raise the car from the lower end of the slope - just been working on an exhaust that way. As said, use chocks every time.
Re axle stands, so long as the slop isn't too steep they work fine, but if you need to raise the whole car then don't use axle stands alone. I usually put two wheels on steel ramps and then jack the other end and put it on axle stands. That way two wheels are solid on ramps and it's not going to fall off the stands. (I still have a secondary pair of stands though - I saw a car fall on a guy once and it's not a nice sight.)
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MiataMark
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I work on a sloped drive, no real issues except when changing the air bags on the Discovery it confused the level sensors. You do need to be mindful of what the car is doing when using jacks/stands etc.
Used to have gravel only issue is if you drop a nut, bolt, expensive brake adjuster part, easy to lose things. Some flattened cardboard boxes make a good working surface. As for tools I have them in the front of the garage so can be left out.
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Jul 15, 2016 12:22:06 GMT
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I've called the housing association where I live, so perhaps they might allow me to carry out car repairs? Let's not rely on that. So from what I hear: chocked wheels at the higher point of the slope, and axel + jack + wheel (standard safety stuff) and pray to the heavens that nothing goes wrong?
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 15, 2016 15:50:30 GMT
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Also take into account which end of the car you lift,lift the rear,and you have no handbrake holding the car on the slope,(thats assuming the handbrake is working properly to hold it on a slope in the first place).
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Jul 15, 2016 20:18:21 GMT
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This is all I can think of to keep the car / me safe.
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 15, 2016 20:52:53 GMT
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If its that bad i would not bother , it just smacks of danger if its that steep and your a novice . Just get the thing somewhere , whack some oil in and flog it .
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Jul 15, 2016 21:25:58 GMT
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Slope on that diagram is an exaggeration but it demonstrates the point.
There is still the flat road ....
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I have a Jaguar XJS - RARRGHH! She is called Lily, and she is my best friend! goo.gl/bT3ASP <-- video of her
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Jul 15, 2016 22:07:19 GMT
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that diagram is a damn good representation of the drive at our old house, steep enough that when the car was put on ramps that were more or less a foot high, the car ended up level. A long-ass way of checking the oil level.
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Last Edit: Jul 15, 2016 22:08:30 GMT by bmcnut
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