lofty1
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Jun 20, 2016 21:45:55 GMT
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Does anyone know if you have to have a working speedometer to pass an mot? Is it something they test?
I have a 67 Hillman minx with standard speedo but not a standard engine!
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ChasR
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Jun 20, 2016 22:15:21 GMT
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You are meant to but IME alot of people will not check for this. If the speedo is working and looks vaguely right I doubt they will kick up a fuss.
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Yeah it is testable and supposed to be working.They could probably check it as they drive into the MOT bay but wouldn't be able or look to test accuracy.I might be wrong but i don't think brake rollers would be quick enough for the needle to even start moving.
If it's got no needle or no dial or something then that will fail for sure.
It's also got to be capable of being illuminated.
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lofty1
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Jun 21, 2016 16:35:33 GMT
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Ok thanks, it has a needle and lights up its just not connected to the gear box. I'm not to sure what would happen (or if it's possible) to connect a mx5 box to a Hillman speedo!?
Might also install a gps speedo but again not sure if this will work for an mot...
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Jun 21, 2016 16:59:02 GMT
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You need one to use the car on the road but they are NOT tested on the MOT.
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Last Edit: Jun 21, 2016 17:06:14 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 21, 2016 18:51:24 GMT
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You need one to use the car on the road but they are NOT tested on the MOT. Depends what you call not tested? Everything I can find says from 2012 the speedo is testable and not having one,it not illuminating or being obviously broken is a fail.Actually testing operation is a grey area I think.I know of someone who got a fail for non operation but that was on a car that needed a road test for brakes as it couldn't go on the rollers. |
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Rich
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Jun 21, 2016 20:49:32 GMT
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Jun 21, 2016 21:22:44 GMT
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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BT
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Jun 21, 2016 21:33:45 GMT
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Recently they have brought in a requirement that they must work, although previously this was not part of the test criteria.
I know this because my Vito speedo did not work and hadn't done for about 4 years, when the tester entered the mileage the computer automatically failed the ticket due to the mileage being the same as the previous years. He said usually they would never know, but where it was broken for a long time the system picked it up.
When submitted it for a retest I stuck a bicycle speedo to the clocks and he passed it. Reason for this was the broken sensor was £400. A bike speedo was £20.
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Jun 22, 2016 19:38:32 GMT
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You need one to use the car on the road but they are NOT tested on the MOT. Depends what you call not tested? Everything I can find says from 2012 the speedo is testable and not having one,it not illuminating or being obviously broken is a fail.Actually testing operation is a grey area I think.I know of someone who got a fail for non operation but that was on a car that needed a road test for brakes as it couldn't go on the rollers. There is no grey area, operation of the speedo is not part of the test for a car not even if its road driven for brake test. yes the car has to be fitted with one, it has to illuminate and the face and needle need to be visible there is nothing in the testers manual that can be a reason for failure if its not working. |
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Jun 22, 2016 19:49:23 GMT
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Had an advisory of "no speedo cable fitted" years ago to one of my bikes, apparently it works by magic is not acceptable  |
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Jun 22, 2016 21:59:38 GMT
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Depends what you call not tested? Everything I can find says from 2012 the speedo is testable and not having one,it not illuminating or being obviously broken is a fail.Actually testing operation is a grey area I think.I know of someone who got a fail for non operation but that was on a car that needed a road test for brakes as it couldn't go on the rollers. There is no grey area, operation of the speedo is not part of the test for a car not even if its road driven for brake test. yes the car has to be fitted with one, it has to illuminate and the face and needle need to be visible there is nothing in the testers manual that can be a reason for failure if its not working. Well I'm sure that will be some solace to the guy I know who failed on it not working.It looked fine but didn't work on a road test. Surely the "clearly inoperative" covers it not working on a road test? From Richs posted MOT manual Method of inspection 1. Check that a speedometer is fitted. 2. Check the condition of the speedometer. 3. Check that the speedometer can be illuminated. Check the condition could mean a multitude of things.I accept that checking operation is not specified,however it doesn't need a very pedantic tester to see a speedo isn't working and fail it under clearly inoperative. Reason for rejection 1. Speedometer not fitted. 2. Speedometer incomplete, clearly inoperative or the dial glass broken or missing. 3. The speedometer cannot be illuminated. In Loftys case there is no connection between gearbox and speedo so he could fail under clearly inoperative or perhaps incomplete or he could get lucky and pass.. |
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