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Last Edit: Apr 11, 2019 16:01:34 GMT by Stigian
My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Thanks George It hasn't taken long to tear into this project, the bodywork soon came off.. With the aid of a Nigel, a Rex and a scaffold board the V twin was soon on the bench to see how much work is ahead. Hhmmm, it looks quite a bit bigger than the original 230cc lump! So... Out come the small engine followed by a few slices to the frame. The quad now looks very "Mad Max" with the parts roughly piled in place Sorry for the blurred photo, with the wheel under the engine swapped for a small trolley I could prop the parts at more of the correct height. The bottom two tubes need to be level to line things up.. The engine will hang a bit lower than the original but not by much.. Now this is where Honda had thought ahead for me and decided it would be a good idea if their quad engine had the same splines on the gearbox as a CX500 bike engine! Thank you Honda for making life easy for me A quick silly photo with one of the first WN exhausts bolted on. Honda put the quad exhaust can about here, but as I have two cylinders and two of these cans it makes sense to put one each side And of course with every build comes videos.. So here's the first... Enjoy
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Jun 20, 2016 19:24:14 GMT
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As a fan of v-twin power, anything motorised (oddball if possible), and larking around in the mud - I wholeheartedly approve Bookmarked
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As a fan of v-twin power, anything motorised (oddball if possible), and larking around in the mud - I wholeheartedly approve Bookmarked Thanks Nomad, happy you approve Progress on this build has been a lot slower than it should of been, but now I have a direction to go in things should speed up.. But first... With the help of Nigel and his bloody heavy pipe bender new longer and stronger bit's of tube were shaped for the lower rails.. Not welded on in these photo's. Up until Monday I didn't really know which direction this build was going in.... Get the engine in, get it driving, I hadn't though any further ahead than that really.. Then out of interest I plonked on a Honda Silverwing fuel tank (yes it's from the very same bike that donated the engine to Why Not) just to have a look.. The quad started to look very mean with more than a hint of "Mad Max" about it.. So the tank was quickly hit with Mat black paint and the Honda MadTrax was born The big lamp may or may not be staying... I quite like the look of it but others say it's too big.. We shall see With the fuel tank braced in the right place I could make a start on rebuilding the frame.. This may sound a strange way of doing it, but I want the frame to be a feature and not hidden away under bodywork. Every cut and join in the frame has some nice thick steel bar inside to make sure it's all strong enough when welded up.. Everything is only tack welded at the mo as I've run out of Mig wire. I like the "double down pipe" look, the o/s was easy.. If your thinking the n/s looks a bit close to the carb then you would be right! It's so close that I had to notch the inside of the pipe to give enough space to get a fuel pipe on the carbs! Putting some strength back in the front, roll on Monday when my welding wire should arrive and I can zap all the tubes fully together..
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Well, early Monday morning my welding wire turned which was very nice of it.. Tacking tubes together with a Arc welder has not been fun.. As it happened Mig welding was not fun for long!! A word of warning chaps, always wear gloves when welding even more so if your welding something galvanized! Why?? Well a rather nasty evil big blob of molten weld decided to jump and land on my wedding ring where it most unkindly burnt a hole through it and at the same time super-heated the top half of the ring to a very "ouch" sort of temperature! Getting the ring off was interesting to say the least, it's always been a very tight fit but still turned, but once my finger started swelling!! With the help of Google, a good chap by the name of Matt, and a length of fine string we managed to get the ring off without having to cut it! This was quite bad timing as it was our 9th wedding anniversary the next day! For those of you who are saying I shouldn't wear the ring in the workshop, I've never taken it off as it doesn't/didn't really come off without a big fight! And now onto something tubular.. The quad frame.. A lot of new tube work has gone in to add strength and also give it a bit of style.. While my Mig welder did an "ok" job of welding the frame up, it did seam to be lacking oomph and not powerful enough to do a good job. So Nigel the good chap he is suggested we drag he's welder through and give it a whirl... Strong welds?? Ooooo yeah baby This was one of those corners with a lot of steel bar showing.. It now be filled with weld So thanks for the use of your welder mate, I now feel a lot happier about riding the quad A blurred view of the other side.. The rear or the frame is getting a re-shape to to keep the curved theme of the frame going, here's the first part of it.. 3 tubes all with slight bends to get them fitting under the seat lip. When the seat if clamped down only the bottom half of the tube will be showing. I just love this view from the back, the tank makes it look so meaty and MadMaxy
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Looks awesome! Great minds think alike, here's my take on the same idea: Haven't found an engine yet though.
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Looks awesome! Great minds think alike, here's my take on the same idea: Haven't found an engine yet though. Yep, mad minds think alike Dude, I like your build I'm not that up on quads this one being my first, what's your build based on and what are the seat/gas tank from? You know the saying of "A bad workman always blames he's tools".. Well in this case I can rightly blame my small Mig welder.. With the aid of a new welding mask and Nigel's 30+ year old heavy duty Mig I produced the best welds I have ever done This is the start of the lower rear engine mounts.. I didn't take many photo's but the MadTrax can now hold it's own weight up including engine
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Jul 10, 2016 17:35:55 GMT
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Wow that does look mean! Just got a couple of quads for my kids But as I have 2 boys they weren't overjoyed with having a pink one so bit of rattle can action and some stickers I had lying round and we have The Zombie Hunter Not bad for £80 for the 2 of them. Got you bookmarked so will be watching! In a not so creepy sounding way lol
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Jul 12, 2016 16:51:31 GMT
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Thanks for the bookmarked jellygut231, that's a good price for a couple of quads.. The green and stickered looks way better than pink, I bet your boy's were glad Not much to report, but here's a couple of rear engine mounts..
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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The Honda MadTrax now has a backbone.. Sorry about the rubbish photo, my phone camera is starting to have problems now it's getting on a bit. I'm sure all you bike folk know what these bit's of small tube are for.. These are old mounting rubber from a Ford P100 pick-up. After a bit of trimming.. They were perfect for mounting the fuel tank in the normal bike kinda way. With some cutting, shaping, welding and adding a captive nut the rear tank mount was made. The top engine mount taking shape, I just need to find a couple more bolts. To finish off here's the latest MadTrax video.. Enjoy
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Part of things
thats what i do
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Jul 26, 2016 10:30:17 GMT
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Big fan of your work. The wedding ring looked "ouch"
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whip it, into shape ........ go forward
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Jul 31, 2016 17:11:44 GMT
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Big fan of your work. The wedding ring looked "ouch" Thanks Ash, yeah the wedding ring was a bit "ouch", but it's healing up nicely now. Progress has been a bit slow of late, partly the heat, partly life getting in the way and I've not been to the workshop that much, also battling with serious arthritis which is really slowing down the speed I can work at.. But such is life, just stick two fingers up to it and get on as best I can A couple of extra tubes have gone in the frame just in front of the fuel tank. They partly add some extra strength to the back bone, but also divert the eyes from the engine mount under the tank. I have been thinking about what to do about the exhaust and the lack of space to fit one in! There is no space to run any pipes on the N/S without legs getting burnt, there isn't that much more space on the O/S but there is space to make some.. er... space Anyway, to make the new system I needed to get some more pipe.. As the steel place is just over the road the GT came in handy Where's the best place to start an exhaust system? I trimmed down WN's 1st system till they were just stubbys sticking out the front of the engine (see the first photo) and then went straight to the back for a bit of exhaust box work.. To make them fit under the seat they needed a little trimming in length, so 2 1/2 inches came out. Both cans welded up and welded together. They will go a tad more forward so just the pipes are sticking out the back. Due to the engine being off-set to the left there's no space to run any pipes without legs getting burnt, so up the right side it has to go.. After all the curves in the frame I wanted a more industrial look to the exhaust, so I bought some rather big pipe Space on the right side is rather tight so to stop a leg getting fried or the right hand carb getting hot the pipe had to go through the frame! Thanks to Nigel's boy Karl who found me this rather big steel fitting which was welded into the frame.. It should be strong enough I wasn't quite sure how the down pipes will tie into the big tube yet, but I was working on it. Working out how to get the down pipes into the big pipe without having any pipes in front of the radiator and making sure the down pipes are the same length has been fun! It was still work in progress at this point but it's heading in the right direction. The down pipes almost look like part of the chassis/frame from the front, but it may just be a slightly blurred photo that's creating the illusion! If you were looking at the down pipe into big pipe photo's and were thinking the gas flow would be quite poor, you would be thinking right.. Which is why I made this. Not perfect but it should help the gasses flow in the right direction now Getting the down pipes from the engine to the 2 into 1 thingy was interesting, lot's of measuring, bending, welding and trimming a few mm's of here and there until it all fitted together.. Looking down at the 2 into 1. Tomorrows fun is to split this big pipe into 2 to feed it into the pair of silencer boxes which will be hung under the seat... Me thinks a heat shield my be needed to stop the seat and my bum from melting
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Exhaust is looking very Mad Trax! Just subscribed to your YouTube channel a lot of amazing looking stuff on there too. Can't wait to see you ripping up the clippings with this!
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Aug 19, 2016 16:58:34 GMT
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Popped in to see you on my way home today. Me being the master of bad timing literally missed you by seconds! You and Nigel had just left for tractor fest. Met Nigel's son, very helpful guy. "Borrowed" a clutch on the understanding that if it works I am in for a round,which is more than fair. Going to check the coil on it tomorrow and pop in next week one afternoon. Cheers. Johnny
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Sept 6, 2016 16:02:31 GMT
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Exhaust is looking very Mad Trax! Just subscribed to your YouTube channel a lot of amazing looking stuff on there too. Can't wait to see you ripping up the clippings with this! Thanks Jellygut, yeah the exhaust is a bit wild, I can't make up my mind what it's going to sound like.. I bet it will snarl and bark a bit though Thanks for subscribing, my workshop (thanks to Matt in the garden center)now has BT fiber broadband so I may well do some live streaming video's now the internet is up to the job.. Popped in to see you on my way home today. Me being the master of bad timing literally missed you by seconds! You and Nigel had just left for tractor fest. Met Nigel's son, very helpful guy. "Borrowed" a clutch on the understanding that if it works I am in for a round,which is more than fair. Going to check the coil on it tomorrow and pop in next week one afternoon. Cheers. Johnny Hi Johnny you really must try dropping in again one afternoon it would be cool to meet you, though you may want to wait a couple of weeks as I'm off on my hols Saturday.. Sorry for the lack for updates on this, very busy mixed with very tired doesn't help... The fuel tank gained a couple of these strange looking brackets. If your wondering what they are for, they hold the front of the seat down. The rear of the seat has a couple of plastic spikes/pointy bits which fit into the rubbers.. I found a couple of washers which were the right size inside but too small on the outside. So I cut a hole in some plate.. Dropped the washer in.. Then zapped it up.. Tack welded in place.. They will get fully zapped up when I pull the quad apart to finish all the welding.. And... FartatoBucket has just gone down, so your have to wait a little while until it's back up and I can continue.. Sorry Guy's n Girls.
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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Morning all, well PotatoBucket has finally got it's life sorted (for now!) so let's get this update sorted.. Next on the hit list was to tweak the frame so the engine could be removed.. So out came the hacksaw Now you see it.. Now you don't.. It's back again, but this time with a notched joint.. To stop the bolt crushing the tube some half moon steel bar was welded in place.. When I cap the ends it will also fill the gaps you can see in the photo above.. Sorted.. The frame now has a removable member to aid getting the engine out when needs be. A close up of the joints that only need a little tidying up.
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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The plan was to get MadTrax off the bench so I could have a seat to feel how she felt at ground level, the pull the engine out so the frame could be fully welded in the places the engine wouldn't let me reach... Well that was the plan.. Off the bench she came.. As you can see from the above photo's there is something missing from the front end to balance it out looks wise. Nigel and I had been wondering what could be done to even it out until I dug out the big army type spot lamp, gave it a very quick coat of black and hung it off the front with a bit of welding wire... Yep, just the ticket and about the right size compared to the fuel tank This bracket used to hold the front bodywork/bull bar but not only was it not needed it also looked ugly! So it was cut out and replaced by some more steel tube.. That looks better The front two tubes were left open from the factory which didn't look right, so I extended them down into a point.. Much better.. The welds will be ground down when MadTrax goes back up on the bench. The big lamp was mounted using a bracket at the top which bolts onto the head stock. I just had to keep the handle on the back of the lamp as that's what gives it the "search light" look. And a smaller one at the bottom which will look better with a little trimming to shape.
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My YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/user/UkWheelHorseBlokeQuote - D'you know, it's people like you, doing totally brilliant and pointless stuff like this that gives me a little hope for humanity
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