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Hi - I see that MK2 RS2000's have become very valuable. I am not sure how long such cars actually take to sell or how much they actually sell for? But i see them advertised anywhere from 20K to 30K (including LHD cars). Since moving to Australia, i have been looking for something a bit different to put in the garage, but use regularly (as a toy)..... A friend here has put me in the direction of an Australian Made 1980 RS2000. In Australia they made 2400 of these including 4-door models. The car in question is a 4-door car with the correct (Australian) decals, interior, trims etc.... but has been subject to a couple of modifications (wheels/engine detailing). I was discussing the car with another friend, who knows i am more into MK3/4 Escorts (of which were never sold here in Australia) And the conversation went something like - Ship it to the UK and get it MOT's make some moeny on it then buy a Series 1 or 2 RST and ship that back to Australia with the profit from the MK2 Does anyone think there would be a value in the UK for an imported 4 door, rust free (spent its entire life in very dry South Australia) RS2000? It's all pie in the sky stuff at the moment with my not having researched shipping costs, Import duties/procedures etc, for a car of this vintage - Although i do have a friend in the UK that i would be more than happy to deal with the registering/MOT/Selling of the vehicle, and then sourcing me an RS Turbo. Here are a couple of pics of the car.....
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Don't know about the financials ,and I am not a member of the Ford fan club. I do know South African and Australian models (little to no rust),sell for less here in the Uk than the Uk build(rotten) models. Go figure, hahaha
What you do need to be aware of that a car that has passed an Mot here, will not pass a roadworthy in Aus. They take a very dim view of overplating and welding. I know of a couple of fairly rare cars shipped to Australia, now pretty much un register able in Aus as its not financially viable to have them rebuilt by an Australian approved panel shop,something the authorities there insist on before they will give them their first Southern Hemisphere registration. No into the garage and weld in new panels like here. Same story in New Zealand. But your Grandmothers old Viva that has spent it's last 30 years in a chicken coup in the Outback? That you can patch.....go figure....
You need an import approval permit before you do anything. They have a nice book you can bore yourself to death reading. All 35 pages worth. Bottom line, a lot of red tape to get through,basically Aus not really wanting cars imported,but if you are prepared to jump through all the hoops,it's possible. Is it worth it? Up to you.....
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Last Edit: Jun 5, 2016 5:49:50 GMT by Deleted
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Yeah, it is definitely harder to import something here to AU and i wouldn't consider importing anything post 89' because its just ridiculous.... I think to make anything worth the hassle and logistics, i would need the MK2 to sell for £17,500
If the general consensus was 'No chance' then i am still inclined to buy the car and keep it.
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Buy it. Keep it. Enjoy it. Job done.....
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I'd keep it, it's such a fantastic car....
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bazzateer
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Another vote to buy it and keep it. I know it's all down to the individual but I would never chose a Mk3 over a Mk2. You just can't beat RWD.
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Just my humble opinion
Mk1 uber cool Mk2 super cool Mk3.... Sorry. '80's Chav Chariot.
Off to get my flame suit.... Hehehe
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I spoke to an entry certifier a couple of years ago regarding getting my rangerover and transit registered in New Zealand when it looked like we would be able to afford to live over there as I had heard the stories of 6 year old disco's need a new chassis before being reg'd etc and he said in his opinion if it would go a UK mot and there was no sign of bodging or rust holes in structural members then it wasn't a problem. The range rover was going to be more of a pain due to the diesel conversion though. That was for personal imports.
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tsoob
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It's definitely not that much of a problem, there were holes in the floor of my Bel Air big enough that you could see the road from inside the car and it still passed roadworthy. It was Australian delivered car though so had never left the country, maybe imported cars go through a more stringent test?
I'm sending a 504 Coupe back home next year so I guess i'll find out. Bringing my E21 to the UK has so far been very easy.
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Last Edit: Jun 5, 2016 17:06:17 GMT by tsoob
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Yep imports have to go through a stricter test even if you live in SA
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iain42
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I think they are less desirable in the UK because of some of the parts used, if I remember right, the back axle is different, fuel tank bigger and further back and something different about the shell (memory fail) possibly some of the strengthening plates aren't there.
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79cord
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If anything I think Ford Aust. might have added some of their own strengthening plates given the 2+mm plates under the drivers footwell of a friends RS2000, & all our early Cortina's & Escorts were already built to the 'heavy duty' ; (english GT spec.) Private imports where you have owned the car overseas for more than a year would definitely be easier. & pre '86 before new emissions requirements for unleaded fuel & CAT converters would also help.
Mazda 323 based Ford Laser took the place of our Escorts. Including their own limited edition & TX3 sports models with twin-carb's, some turbo's & later 16v turbo & 4wd models culminating with the Capri convertible that would all be fairly overlooked, cheap fun IF you could find good ones.
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If you want a mk3 escort have you tried looking in trademe NZ there were quite a few about 10 years ago, mainly XR cabriolets. At least the shipping would be cheaper.
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I've seen a couple of RS Turbo Escorts at All British Day in South Australia. Maybe ask those guys what they're worth here. There wouldn't be more than a handful in the country though! There are probably more Sierras, because they were raced as touring cars. I've even seen one or two normal mid-range Sierras which were private imports.
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A friend of mine had an aussie 4 door RS2000, he struggled to get 11k for it, and it was eat your dinner of the floors mint, Lost a chunk as he imported it himself. This was Early last year.
Aussie Cars are all heavy duty spec, and have the Long range Tank, As JBravo eluded to UK cars seem to hold value more then Aussie Cars, 2 Doors will always be more valuable then 4 doors too.
South African cars are on another level of bodge... there was one with a road sign and Pog doing a sterling impression of the roof floating about up north somewhere.
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I have a MK1 here in WA but am really a MK3/4 fan too. There are a few Mk3 and Mk4's that have come up for sale on gumtree here so they are around in Australia. Most seem to be UK or South African Imports from UK expats in the 80's and 90's. Although I prefer mk3's, in my case I feel there would be something wrong in selling a MK1 3 door to buy an imported car ( that most Aussies would liken to a ford laser or mazda 323 ).
I have been through the import process for a couple of vehicles and it is timely and costly but it is possible. There is no roadworthy here in WA but the same rules for registration do apply. As for the RS2000 in the UK, I think that anyone looking for a MK2 RS2000 would probably hold out for a 3 door and anyone else would simply think your car was a wannabe ?
I agree with others, buy the car and enjoy it. If you are lucky there might be a small financial gain but I don't think it would be worth the time and effort.
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I help run www.oldskoolford.co.uk here in the UK and we have members that own Aussie 4 door RS2000's. £17500 gbp is not realistic I'm afraid. The best one over here recently changed hands for circa 12k and that was deemed 'max' value although one sold last year for 14k
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Last Edit: Jun 7, 2016 7:37:19 GMT by SmokeEm
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tdk
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I appreciate it's counter to the RR 'good vibes only' ethos, but the mk3 is 'orrible. Stick with yours.
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Have you driven the RS2000? I suspect once you have got behind the wheel you will find that will do just fine ;-)
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I appreciate it's counter to the RR 'good vibes only' ethos, but the mk3 is 'orrible. Stick with yours. Ah, but wouldn't it be dull if we all liked the same things? I've had three Mk3s, I thought they were thoroughly splendid. I'd love another.
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