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Sept 2, 2018 17:40:37 GMT
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Superb, and just look at the smile on Toms face That’s worth a million in my book Nice one chaps...as always much respect on the build Great motor
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Last Edit: Sept 2, 2018 17:40:53 GMT by Mercdan68
Fraud owners club member 2003 W211 Mercedes E class 1989 Sierra sapphire 1998 ex bt fiesta van
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Sept 2, 2018 18:54:49 GMT
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Those rocker covers are rather cool - I had some very early Bugpack ones until recently. Couple of things to watch out for - they will take a standard seal but are designed to have a different profile seal (which I could never find!) so prepare in advance by sticking some new gaskets in with sealant and bolting to a spare head, nipping them up bit by bit. Once the sealant has set they're ready to swap over. The other place they like to leak is from the bolt holes - these should have a conical rubber washer under the bolt head but again they're hard to get so a selection of O-rings works well...
Glad you all enjoyed Action - I've not done it for years for personal (personality?) reasons, but it is supposed to be good.
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim 1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started. 1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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CaptainSlog
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Sure dowty washers would work for the bolt holes.
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Sept 3, 2018 14:01:35 GMT
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Ooo, nice rocker covers - got a set stashed away in a box somewhere myself (with the correct rubber gaskets and everything!) When it comes to welding up the heater outlets on the fanshroud, don't just weld them flat. There are baffles inside which if you leave them in creates some weird airflow and high pressure / dead zones affecting the flow out over the engine... Unless of course its an aftermarket copy which are normally empty www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25871 - bit of a discussion on the heater outlet thing...
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Last Edit: Sept 3, 2018 14:04:03 GMT by SamJ
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Sept 3, 2018 15:02:21 GMT
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Ooo, nice rocker covers - got a set stashed away in a box somewhere myself (with the correct rubber gaskets and everything!) When it comes to welding up the heater outlets on the fanshroud, don't just weld them flat. There are baffles inside which if you leave them in creates some weird airflow and high pressure / dead zones affecting the flow out over the engine... Unless of course its an aftermarket copy which are normally empty www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25871 - bit of a discussion on the heater outlet thing... Interesting, that thread (and the Samba one linked in) seemed to be a proper old fashioned thread punch up but didn’t really answer the question, or if it did the evidence was discredited because he makes money from selling the alternative at the minute we are running with the outlets blocked with spraycan lids, the engine that came with the Fug yielded the scruffy lids even, so removing and welding up will be no worse than that. Alternative seems to be that we should drill a hole in the plates, which isn’t necessarily a problem, we were just trying to smooth and tidy up the bay a bit, or maybe we could move the holes a little so they are less obvious... maybe run a tube inside the shroud to force the air out lower down?’ But there is also a theory that the reason for some air passing to the heat exchangers is to stop condensation in the air chambers :/ It’s a genuine shroud with flaps and stuff, because that seemed better than the empty bits of metal, and has the doghouse on the back, so I guess we can cut it about and have a look.... I’ve got a spot thermometer thing, so we could even do some comparisons Maybe we’ll take it for a couple of runs at the weekend and measure temps on #1 and #3 with and without the tubes blocked, then we can have a look at the other shroud and measure with holes blocked (but hopefully the duct bits inside removed) and if it’s no good drill a couple of holes and do again If only I’d known.... Was parked next to a trekker all weekend!!! Could have slipped a roofy in Steve’s beer and swapped the shrouds whilst he was asleep
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Sept 3, 2018 15:20:09 GMT
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I have the ones in my buggy blocked off, and never really worried about it. I always felt that the extra air flow over the engine from not being enclosed probably helped - I just thought I would point it out that there seems to be no consensus over it, and you make your choices.
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Sept 3, 2018 15:23:01 GMT
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I have the ones in my buggy blocked off, and never really worried about it. I always felt that the extra air flow over the engine from not being enclosed probably helped - I just thought I would point it out that there seems to be no consensus over it, and you make your choices. I’m sat at a customers house, they ‘popped’ out 4 hours ago, about half an hour before I finished..... I’m now sat on the step because I haven’t got a key to lock up... so it’s a welcome distraction even if I’m not any wiser at the end of it
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Sept 3, 2018 17:13:59 GMT
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Its great to see your all getting so much enjoyment out of this motor, you do realise the lad's going to want something pretty mega when he passes his test!!
I don't miss those sort of customers at all, add it to the bill!
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luckyseven
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Sept 5, 2018 20:02:14 GMT
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IIRC there's a mod you can do to extend the doghouse to fit a seven-row oil cooler from Type 4 engines. Direct fit to all the Beetle studs and five-row gubbins and all, just need to cut the doghouse off and weld a fillet of steel in to space the doghouse bulge out towards the firewall an inch or so. Might be a good project to have a go at whilst it's off the car and you're playing about? Especially since you don't have a firewall to worry about clearance. And oil cooling can never be too effective on a VW lump!
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Sept 5, 2018 21:02:56 GMT
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Picked up the 34ict Webers And got a fuel filter We got a Malpassi filter king, as you can adjust the pressure on the top of the housing (from what I’ve read, they don’t like high fuel pressures) Also ordered up some gaskets, viton o-rings and rocker cover gaskets... Think the o-rings will fill the groove And then a gasket to give the mating surface With some liquid gasket stuff, as advised, think it’ll work Few other bits on the way, fuel pressure gauge and some hose and joints... Will see what jets are fitted... And have a look at the type 4 oil cooler mod too
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luckyseven
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Sept 5, 2018 22:21:42 GMT
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I have one of those Malpassi Filter Kings for the 48IDA on my RX-7. You can adjust them... they range from enough pressure to a gnat's above enough pressure. It's not really a life-changing range of adjustment Good filters though. I threaded on a fuel pressure gauge to one of the unions... they advise just using it to tune the regulator then not leaving it permanently attached because of leak risks but it's been on there absolutely years now and hasn't leaked
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Sept 5, 2018 23:55:26 GMT
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I like everything about this built!! It's all awesomeness!!
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jamesd1972
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How has the brake balance worked out with the discs on the back? Locking at the front is more controllable but less fun ! Has come on really well, will it be put away for winter or have you bought heated plug in body suits ? James
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Sept 6, 2018 12:01:21 GMT
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How has the brake balance worked out with the discs on the back? Locking at the front is more controllable but less fun ! Has come on really well, will it be put away for winter or have you bought heated plug in body suits ? James Brake balance I think is about right, brakes weren’t great at the start because everything was new, but now are quite good. Only managed to lock the wheels once on the road, on gravel or grass it’s always the front that locks first Not sure what we’ll do with it over the winter, don’t suppose it’ll get much use, but think we’ll keep it mostly ready to go and see what happens (Tom hasn’t got much insulation unlike me )
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Sept 6, 2018 12:05:59 GMT
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Got to take it out in the snow... should there be any.
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Sept 6, 2018 12:22:54 GMT
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I got the old 45 webber downdrafts from our old 2.1 somewhere - they're stripped in a box though so need reassembling...might be a bit overkill fro the 1600 atm though
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Sept 6, 2018 12:35:15 GMT
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I got the old 45 webber downdrafts from our old 2.1 somewhere - they're stripped in a box though so need reassembling...might be a bit overkill fro the 1600 atm though It’s a 1300!!! So 34s are a bit overkill really I think, 45s would drown it
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bstardchild
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Sept 6, 2018 20:58:10 GMT
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I got the old 45 webber downdrafts from our old 2.1 somewhere - they're stripped in a box though so need reassembling...might be a bit overkill fro the 1600 atm though It’s a 1300!!! So 34s are a bit overkill really I think, 45s would drown it You thinking wrong You get the 45's and then upgrade the engine capacity to suit
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It’s a 1300!!! So 34s are a bit overkill really I think, 45s would drown it You thinking wrong You get the 45's and then upgrade the engine capacity to suit I can't like this sentiment enough! it's probably why the first thing I bought after an exhaust and a pair of 36DRLAs was an 82mm Bugpack stroker crank... Although to be honest, luckyseven has one of the ultimate carbs - the Weber 48IDA. Just need to get another one now!
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim 1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started. 1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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Sept 13, 2018 21:43:46 GMT
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Not done a lot, and got a Scout camp this weekend But we’ve had a look at the jets in the carbs It’s got; 52 idle jets 130 main jets 160 air jets F78 emulsion tubes, So think the jetting will probably be ok, but have read that they work better with F6 emulsion tubes, so have got a couple of those Got a fuel pressure gauge too And also after talking to a few people, have got a wideband AFR kit, got a bit of a deal on it... so seemed like a good idea it’s an Innovate kit and we got a mounting for the sensor that bolts onto the exhaust, so we should be able to see how we’ll set up we’ve got them. Think the plan for now is to mount the gauge in an adaptable box, then we can remove it when we’ve set the carbs up (but we can then reuse it when we go fuel injection at a later stage) We can swap to both sides as the buggy pipes aren’t linked Tom likes the techy stuff, and we should be able to monitor changes rather than seeing how it drives (which is tricky when you can’t drive it on the road anyway if you are 12!) so hopefully will be quite interesting Saw a beetle at VW action using the same O2 bracket... that was a bit more hardcore than ours though But we’ve got plenty of time to get to that point Also got a type4 oil cooler, so we’ll modify our fan shroud for that too, reading up on this mod there is some discussion about whether there is any real benefit, but since it’s a nearly standard 1300 it shouldn’t generate that much heat (compared to high output engines) so shouldn’t really matter anyway So hopefully sort the wideband at the end of the weekend and go for a drive and see what readings we get on the standard soles, then go from there
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