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My son Thomas was 10 on Friday, in anticipation I'd got hold of a 1300 beetle engine The plan is to strip and rebuild the engine, hopefully with a few enhancements.... Then source a transaxle, beam, and then look for something to put it in (a fugitive seems ideal as we won't need to find a shortened floor plan as well, but that'll be a while yet) So for his birthday he got a Halfords Advanced 28 piece socket set and the engine..... We then went on cub camp for the weekend, got about 1/2 hour to play today, so stripped off the coil the leads and distributor and had a chat about that (it's not going to be a quick project!)  |
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Ooh, a twin hot spot! Not common at all, so if you're changing the exhaust you'll also need to change the inlet manifold too.
I had a group of year 10 and 11 lads strip a couple of Beetle engines - they loved it! If only they hadn't been knackered inside they would have rebuilt them too!
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim
1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started.
1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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Awesome present! I'm sure he will love it, can't wait to do stuff like this with my lad, although will have to wait a few years as he's only 1  Make sure you get him in the habit of wearing gloves, kids skin is much thinner than adults and old engine oil is nasty stuff. |
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i think we all need a pivotal moment like this, to sow the seed.
mine was a suffolk punch 75cc 4 stroke!
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mattiwagon
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Excellent idea fella! I'm thinking of introducing my boy to engines with a 2 stroke rebuild then we can brave a 4 stroke together!. Hope your son enjoys and learns alot with the journey.
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If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo
97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion
97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold
04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket
04 battered T5 pickup in blue!
Chainsaws lotsa Chainsaws
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Last Edit: May 4, 2016 20:40:36 GMT by guz
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I must say this is very cool. I'm only discovering the joy of cars at the tender age of 27. Really wish I was taught this sort of thing when I was younger, however my parents didn't know anything about cars either. Looking forward to some updates - I might learn a thing or two also! Bookmarked |
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1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic
1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i
2005 Mazda 3 TS
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Sept 11, 2016 20:12:21 GMT
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So, been a while.... I always knew it was going to be a slow burner. Made a start, but soon decided an engine stand would be sensible. Won one on eBay, but beetle engine doesn't fit, so then bought a yoke. We then made a start, got the tin wear off with only one sheared machine screw! We stripped one head off, barrels and Pistons off, then turned it over so he could see valves moving on one side and rods on the other.  Then stripped it fully until we split the cases, the crank and cam seem fine, there is a bit of wear on the bearings. But they'll be changed anyway.    So next task is to start cleaning parts and sort the bearings so we can rebuild the bottom end, with a side project of stripping heads and lapping valves etc when we run out of things to do. |
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Sept 11, 2016 20:45:20 GMT
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to thicken the plot....
Tom has been helping to sort my scrap, the deal being that we can invest that money into this project.
He's worked really hard and helped strip some of the big stuff to bright, and sorted the rest into various bags... we've had a couple of weigh ins,
I have been put in touch with a mate of a mate who recently bought a fugitive from ebay, he has been reminded by his wife that since they are supposed to be moving house this was a bit silly..... so negotiations are afoot. And as we have the scrap money, this has been deemed acceptable
(fingers crossed)
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Sept 11, 2016 20:49:43 GMT
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I don't know where you're based but I've got all the running gear from a Jeans beetle including disk beam, 1300 gearbox & axle tubes etc. Basically all the ruuning gear. I also have floorpan & logbook. Based in Bristol.
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Sept 12, 2016 7:58:06 GMT
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1997 Lotus Eprtit GT3
1996 Jaguar XJ6 Sovereign manual gearbox from factory
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zeberdee
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Sept 12, 2016 15:19:00 GMT
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Where did you get the yoke from ?
I've got to rebuild my bug engine over the winter & that'd make it a bit easier .
Also wish i was introduced to engines at an earlier age !!
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Sept 12, 2016 20:13:32 GMT
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zeberdee
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Sept 12, 2016 20:23:27 GMT
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Thats the stage i'm at , got a cheap stand , but cant find a cheap yoke . |
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Sept 12, 2016 22:15:04 GMT
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You can use the bellhousing from a camper gearbox - it'll take the starter motor for test running too!
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim
1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started.
1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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Sept 22, 2016 16:00:08 GMT
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Didn't get much time last weekend to start cleaning up bits, but this weekend we've set aside some time...... But this happened; It has been dropped off at the secret bunker/ farm, but farmers dad has passed away, and funeral is tomorrow.... This is the only shot until the dust clears |
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Sept 22, 2016 18:17:36 GMT
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Great work so far chaps!,nice to see another son and dad collaboration,and looking forward to more pics of the fugitive
It's a great feeling learning off your dad,I did it back in the 70s and 80s,now my lad is learning....and teaching me more!
Good luck watching with interest ,Dan and George
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2003 W211 Mercedes E class
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Sept 25, 2016 18:19:12 GMT
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So today we have been cleaning! The crankcases were minging, so we've gunked them off and given everything a good cleaning (going to put them in a mates parts cleaner through the week hopefully)  So next up is to order some bearings......   so it's still on standard bearings! A shot of the Fug coming home  |
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Sept 25, 2016 18:34:31 GMT
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The start of this project began fairy similarly to Mercdans,
Tom was having problems at school. The school were saying there was nothing wrong, he was getting really upset and had lost his confidence and kept saying he was stupid. In the end we had him dyslexia tested, as a result we found out that he is really clever but processes at the lowest school level (so they don't seem to care much, he's scrapping by) but he is really inquisitive.
So alongside the work on the engine, we are also keeping a logbook of our work (and playing with speech to text software etc) and trying to answer any questions we can along the way.
So we've also looked into the part numbers on the block, found out what AS41 means, and looked at how you can cast alloy.
We've researched the engine number and worked out it was built in the first week of June 1973.
(That probably makes me sound like a really pushy dad!! Hopefully I'm actually just helping him find some coping mechanisms for his dyslexia and trying to give him some mojo..... But tell me if you think I'm wrong!)
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