batman
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Someone I work with just casually mentioned that they have a Moggy Traveller in their garage that they want rid of. She's a lovely lady but I'm not sure her and her husband are really 'car people'. It's one of my dream cars, I've wanted one since I was young. It's a rolling resto and they are pretty firm on their price.
What I want to know is what it's actually worth, before I start getting carried away and letting heart rule head. I'm going to see it over the next few days but the details I have are;
It's an 1960 model. Very solid, mostly original and needs no welding. A few minor bits of bodywork to sort out, they say it needs a respray but from the photos I've seen it looks to have some nice patina. The wood isn't perfect but only one bit actually needs replacing. Currently a non-runner with what I assume is a later 1275 engine. It has done 36k from new and they are the 3rd owners - it has sat in their garage for the last 6 years.
What are your thoughts? Give me some clues and I'll tell you what they are asking for it. Thanks
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No idea on value these days, always loads on ebay though, check the completed listings.
What I can say is the wood is a pain. I'm not bad with woodwork, I helped my step day replace all the wood. Its not TOO bad but isnt easy, needs more than one person to do it all and id say youd probably want to be comfortable with carpentry to replace a piece or two. Check it thoroughly.
Replacement pieces need 'fitting' not just fixing on.
you are probably well aware if all this if you have been looking for one.
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batman
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There do always seem to be several for sale in various conditions, it seems like a difficult thing to put a price on. There does seem to be fewer early ones out there though. I've never really been looking to buy one, they've always been slightly out of my price range to be honest, this just seems like it might be a good opportunity though as it has pretty much fallen on my lap. My knowledge on them is very limited so any information is good. I have heard that the wood is a pain to sort out and can get very pricey if you're not capable of doing it yourself, which I'm not! I wouldn't be looking at a full resto, just getting it running and on the road.
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if you can get it at a good price go for it. nothing what you cant sort out over time.
terry
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Just remember that one persons 'solid' might not be the same as another person's solid. Have a good look around it for rust and pervious bodges. It was common practice to just plate straight over rust (some people still seem to think this is how to deal with it unfortunately), so bare in mind that if it has patches welded on it there's probably rust lurking behind it. Be prepared to have a good poke about underneath it, ie, don't go to view it in your best clothes.
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batman
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Unfortunately Terry I'm not entirely sure what sort of price would represent a good deal! They seem pretty firm on £2500, however I don't pay asking price for anything so I'd be expecting to chip them down a bit. I know them pretty well so I doubt they'd want to pull the wool over my eyes so to speak.
Thanks for all of the advice. I'm no mechanic and although I generally know my stuff I don't tend to get stuck into heavy mechanical work or bodywork, but I've a lot of friends that could help out (including a good carpenter!). I'm a motor trader so I'm pretty well versed in clambering around under things and poking at the crusty bits.
I'm hopefully going for a look at the weekend so I'll let you know how I get on.
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Like caravans the timber is structural and rot will be an MOT failure so check carefully as VERY expensive to replace making many a Traveller an unviable project if wood work is in poor condition. Also remember these cars will have had patches and plates over the years to limp through an MOT when they were bangers so whilst seller might say it doesn't need any welding it does depend if that means 100% solid and original, properly restored metalwork (ie rot cut out and whole sill, chassis leg, etc panel replaced) or quick MOT type patching that need redoing to get it out of banger category. For £2500 a project would have to be pretty much "ready to roll" and just needing maybe paintwork and bit of fettling IMO. I paid £150 for a genuine convertible that needed full restoration. £470 for an almost mint saloon with 12 months MOT that I snapped somebodies hand off when they offered me £500 18 months later after I found the rear spring hanger needed replacing (couldn't be bothered to sort out as had other "toys" so it just got parked up).
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Darkspeed
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I don't really know the market for Moggies, but 2.5k for a project feels a bit top end. Could be well worth it, but I would normally think anything over 2k without an MOT has to be a bit more exotic.... You need to see it, and trust your gut feel, you will know.
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gazz81
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Apr 10, 2016 19:08:18 GMT
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batman
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Apr 10, 2016 21:05:19 GMT
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Went to see it today and was pleasantly surprised. Although not perfect the wood seems solid. There have been a couple of small filler repairs but nothing too worrying. Underneath seemed solid too, albeit with plenty if underseal! It has a rebuilt 1275 Ital engine which isn't currently running but was only fitted 4 years ago, it hasn't moved since. Apart from getting the engine running and general recommissioning I don't think it would take a lot to get it on the road. It had a lovely set of apparently unique 'cyclone' wheels, similar to minilites with great tyres, a new exhaust, new carpets (well new 4 or 5 years ago anyway). The headlining is torn and needs replacement. It has got bags of character and a lovely patina. I wouldn't be looking at a restoration just to get it on the road. It's a 1960 model with 36k on the clock. I haven't made any decisions yet but it looks good to be honest. The owner is a really nice chap who is an engineer by trade and has run Moggies for years. He's just never got round to finishing this and his wife, my colleague, has told him it's time to get rid.
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gazz81
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Apr 10, 2016 22:15:45 GMT
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Its working now, if it takes too long to buffer just download it first.
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