Battenberg
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Jan 28, 2016 14:19:44 GMT
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Howdy
I'm looking at a buying a CAT D P38 Hang Over, it was purely cosmetic in that the vehicle had been keyed down onesie and Johnny Insurance decided to class it accordingly.
So, couple of questions, Will my insurance be more expensive as it is a CAT D, and what could be the downside if the vehicle is damaged again, is it unlikely Johnny Insurance will pay out?
Anyone else running a CAT D?
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Current Fleet: 1968 Wolseley 1000 2022 BMW 430xd MHT Coupe 2007 L200 Animal - Dog walking transport 1998 318is Coupe 2007 Mini Cooper Supercharged 1989 BMW 530 - in storage
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Jan 28, 2016 15:03:11 GMT
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Howdy I'm looking at a buying a CAT D P38 Hang Over, it was purely cosmetic in that the vehicle had been keyed down onesie and Johnny Insurance decided to class it accordingly. So, couple of questions, Will my insurance be more expensive as it is a CAT D, and what could be the downside if the vehicle is damaged again, is it unlikely Johnny Insurance will pay out? Anyone else running a CAT D? Bought and sold 100's of Cat C and Cat D cars. Mainly just cosmetic bumps and scrapes. Some of the more expensive and worthwhile cars have had bumpers, wings, lights etc. Insurance is the same scenario as any other car, just shop around for the best deal. I've never had any kind of issue with insurance or increased premiums with the companies I've used, but other people have said that their insurance company wouldn't cover them or wanted a higher premium. There are hundreds of insurance companies out there though who do want your business and won't care if the car is recorded as damaged as long as it's road legal when you're driving it. There's no reason why any insurance company would not pay out if the vehicle is damaged again and again and again as long as you're fully legal and so is the car etc etc (as we all know, they'll look for any reason not to pay out on any car if they can). Just bear in mind that a Cat D car will be worth a percentage less than a car not on the register, so make sure you have an agreed value with them.
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Battenberg
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Jan 28, 2016 15:19:32 GMT
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Howdy I'm looking at a buying a CAT D P38 Hang Over, it was purely cosmetic in that the vehicle had been keyed down onesie and Johnny Insurance decided to class it accordingly. So, couple of questions, Will my insurance be more expensive as it is a CAT D, and what could be the downside if the vehicle is damaged again, is it unlikely Johnny Insurance will pay out? Anyone else running a CAT D? Bought and sold 100's of Cat C and Cat D cars. Mainly just cosmetic bumps and scrapes. Some of the more expensive and worthwhile cars have had bumpers, wings, lights etc. Insurance is the same scenario as any other car, just shop around for the best deal. I've never had any kind of issue with insurance or increased premiums with the companies I've used, but other people have said that their insurance company wouldn't cover them or wanted a higher premium. There are hundreds of insurance companies out there though who do want your business and won't care if the car is recorded as damaged as long as it's road legal when you're driving it. There's no reason why any insurance company would not pay out if the vehicle is damaged again and again and again as long as you're fully legal and so is the car etc etc (as we all know, they'll look for any reason not to pay out on any car if they can). Just bear in mind that a Cat D car will be worth a percentage less than a car not on the register, so make sure you have an agreed value with them. Great Help, Many Thanks
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Current Fleet: 1968 Wolseley 1000 2022 BMW 430xd MHT Coupe 2007 L200 Animal - Dog walking transport 1998 318is Coupe 2007 Mini Cooper Supercharged 1989 BMW 530 - in storage
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Jan 28, 2016 15:21:43 GMT
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A mate had his nova stolen and smashed up many moons ago, he wasn't aware that it had been damaged previously and when he went to claim the insurance did try to not pay him out to start with. All he had to do tho was prove to them that the car had been repaired from the previous damage (he sent them some pics of it and they were happy with that). His problem probably came from him not declaring the cat when he insured it in the first place, I imagine that as long as you do it all by the book you should be absolutely fine.
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Jan 28, 2016 16:37:08 GMT
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the main issue with cat c and d stuff is a lower payout if you need to claim, about 30% lower for cat d and upto 50% for cat c but the price of the car your buying should reflect this lower value too otherwise its not worth buying a cat c or d car. not sure how it would affect a retro or classic car though as values may of risen significantly sine the write off so agreed values and full honesty when insuring should see you right.
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Jan 28, 2016 23:49:22 GMT
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Usually in my experience they will insure as normal but take into consideration the previous damage If you make claim.
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hario
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Yeah it will probably affect the 'book price' they use to calculate the pay out if you wrap it round a heard of wild chavs.
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Last Edit: Feb 4, 2016 13:01:21 GMT by hario: added 'wild'
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ChasR
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CAT 'D' Vehicles and InsuranceChasR
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Claims may be an issue but insurance is not. I crashed a car once and reinsured it with the same insurer for not much more ; the accident was my fault. After a while I bought another one or two CAT C or Ds and they were fine to insure. Without straying off topic just make sure that the cars are repaired correctly. My 306 GTi-6 was, my Focus could have been repaired better (it basically wanted a new pair of bonnet hinges to make the front end perfect), but one of my cars that was a Cat C had slight damage to the winscreen pillar when I took parts of the interior out in addition to the lower arm bush being a little deformed (as in crashed, not wear). It did handle OK, but it did not drive right when I bought it to be honest. OTOH my 106 was HPI clear and had clearly been victim of an repair job out of the insurance company. The front end of that was bent, with bodges from POs trying to make it look straight with poor results (read bent inner wings and using pattern front panels; it never lined up right, but it was better when I sold it in comparison to when I bought it. In a nutshell, check any car carefully, but at least a HPI market will give you the initiative to go for it .
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Only thing to be wary of is the small print a couple of insurers use, Swiftcover doesn't offer policies on anything that's been the subject of a claim. It's not obvious though when you are having a quote.
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