Ryannn
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Sept 29, 2015 8:53:32 GMT
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Morning all, just going to post something I've just read, I apologise I haven't researched it myself as of yet. Apparently you can't drive home after a failed mot anymore? Quote: Not seen posted on here but previously if you failed an mot and your old mot was still valid you could continue to drive your car. But a recent change now means that when you fail your mot any previous mots are no longer valid. You are allowed to drive to a pre booked test or place of repair. This must have been really recent as i had this discussion with someone last month and gave link to the gov website which still stated you could drive the car (note: see below changes occurred around 18th sept 2015). Gov website now shows the new rule so don't get caught out. Jordie www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test Driving a vehicle that’s failed You must not drive the vehicle on the road if it fails the test, even if the MOT hasn’t run out, except to: [*]have the failed defects fixed [*]a pre-arranged MOT test appointment
You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition. [/quote]
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Smiler
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Sept 29, 2015 9:03:35 GMT
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Ooh, that's worth checking out, thanks for the heads-up.
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andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 9:14:31 GMT
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rod6e
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Sept 29, 2015 9:19:31 GMT
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Surely driving it home to fix it would count as driving it 'to get the defects fixed'.
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andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 9:21:01 GMT
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never know why they change things like this when they have been in operation for yeas and work.
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Sept 29, 2015 9:29:52 GMT
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It used to be you could take a car for a MOT a month before the old expires and if it passes then you get a 13 month certificate. If it fails you then had a month to sort out the problems whilst still having a valid MOT. Now it looks as if that isn't the case
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andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 9:34:18 GMT
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^^^ yup
just can.t see whats to gain from the change.
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Last Edit: Sept 29, 2015 9:34:58 GMT by andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 10:41:27 GMT
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I always treated it like that was the case anyway, after all if it was bad enough to fail an MOT it shouldn't be on the road...
granted, there's a lot that shouldn't be on the road well before the mot, that's not really excusable regardless of mot test status, its your duty of care to make sure it is safe.
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MiataMark
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Sept 29, 2015 10:41:48 GMT
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^^^ yup just can.t see whats to gain from the change. Well if a car fails an MOT because of a serious defect then it does get a dangerous car off the road. It's always struck me as odd that you can fail an MOT and the just carry on driving (if you get a test before the previous test runs out). I do appreciate that the MOT only says the car is OK on that date and that driving a car in a dangerous state is a different matter. Also that if the law has changed then it will be a major headache for a lot of people me included.
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MiataMark
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Sept 29, 2015 10:42:49 GMT
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whoops double post for some reason.
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Last Edit: Sept 29, 2015 10:43:22 GMT by MiataMark
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Ryannn
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Sept 29, 2015 11:43:34 GMT
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As mentioned above really, it doesn't say you CAN'T drive it home, but is your home a recognised place of repair?!
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VIP
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Sept 29, 2015 14:54:02 GMT
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As mentioned above really, it doesn't say you CAN'T drive it home, but is your home a recognised place of repair?! Since the Regs don't mention a 'recognised place of repair' then yes, driving it home to fix it is just fine.
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taurus
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Sept 29, 2015 14:57:40 GMT
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If this is right I am sad.
I've always got them done a month early just in case.
OK if it fails on something serious - in which case it's always been the case that you can't drive it anymore. But if it fails on a few minors that's just silly. There are plenty of cars driving round that wouldn't pass the MOT on any given day due to minor defects. I don't see mass extermination of nuns and kittens as a result.
Also - I have a bit of a 50/50 going in for MOT tomorrow a month early. If it passes it'll be the last time, but if it fails I've lost a month's motoring.
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Sept 29, 2015 15:11:31 GMT
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Whatever the press and the badly worded .gov sites say, the law hasn't changed, you can still drive a defective car home from an MOT and to an authorised place of repair. Once the vehicle is road legal you can continue to drive it till the old MOT runs out.
What you can not do is drive a car that you are fully aware does not comply with the MOT (and you know because it has an MOT fail certificate) and continue to drive it till the test runs out, eg emission fail, brake judder, defective seatbelts etc, things that a police officer would be likely to see roadside. none of this has changed.
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andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 15:23:24 GMT
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^^^ yup just can.t see whats to gain from the change. Well if a car fails an MOT because of a serious defect then it does get a dangerous car off the road. It's always struck me as odd that you can fail an MOT and the just carry on driving (if you get a test before the previous test runs out). I do appreciate that the MOT only says the car is OK on that date and that driving a car in a dangerous state is a different matter. Also that if the law has changed then it will be a major headache for a lot of people me included. did it not work like this before, i agree totally, if any car is in a dangerous condition, it should be off the road.
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Ryannn
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Sept 29, 2015 16:46:00 GMT
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After having the time to read it through, it does appear that it's all wording!
I'll still be driving mine home anyway, I just check them so that it doesn't fail!
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Sept 29, 2015 20:29:50 GMT
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Surely driving it home to fix it would count as driving it 'to get the defects fixed'. Yes it would, no cop would bother trying to argue that in court as long as the car is SAFE TO DRIVE (which isn't the same as not having an MOT)
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fogey
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Sept 29, 2015 21:38:09 GMT
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Rules and regs are written by beaurocrats in comfy chairs with no understanding of the real world.
If the place of repair is my driveway then that's good enough for me.
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andy-v
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Sept 29, 2015 22:05:33 GMT
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and me
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Sept 30, 2015 4:05:52 GMT
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A slight detraction here, you guys chatting about driving unroadworthy motors, here in Queensland, we have no yearly check up. provided you re-register your vehicle before it lapses from one year to the next - your hunky-dory to continue, along the same path, in blissful ignorance of potentially dangerous faults. A crazy situation, thats not even a country wide rule And, yes, i know you can still get pulled, by the Fuzz, but in reallity, in the sleepy backwater where i live, its a slim chance. Consequently, there are some complete wrecks on our roads. Unfortunately, the sort of "people" who drive these cars, are totally unconcerned about the issue. A soothing thought, for you all to ponder........
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