ade36
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May 17, 2016 10:05:03 GMT
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MK2VR6
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May 17, 2016 10:10:42 GMT
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I know it's not the right attitude, but I'd be using that as a spares car. The guy that runs the SWDUBS forum is restoring one which looked a little tidier to start with, but has proved to have grot hiding in every last corner. It's ended up fully stripped on a rollover jig, and is now being tackled professionally. I'd imagine his repair bill is huge, but I do know the car had sentimental value to him.
Not trying to p1ss in your fireworks, just trying to be realistic. The money you'd sink into this one would buy you a much cleaner shell.
Edit: Just spotted the latest inner wing photos you'd just uploaded. Unless the rest of the shell is mint (which I would assume unlikely), that 110% confirms that unless you have a large budget, masses of time, and wish to embrace a labour of love, it's a gonner.
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Last Edit: May 17, 2016 10:31:21 GMT by MK2VR6
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May 17, 2016 10:20:47 GMT
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Holy Bodgery Batman! That strut top is beyond belief - how can anyone plug that with filler and think "yup, tidy repair that!"?
As a couple of posters have mentioned - could you not transfer the boot panels onto the Golf shell, or did you disassemble the Golf shell to get it into the back garden?
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May 17, 2016 10:29:11 GMT
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is it not possible to just chop the front end off the golf shell and attach the two together, i know that makes it a cut and shut but done right it should be fine right?
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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ade36
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May 17, 2016 10:34:15 GMT
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I know it's not the right attitude, but I'd be using that as a spares car. The guy that runs the SWDUBS forum is restoring one which looked a little tidier to start with, but has proved to have grot hiding in every last corner. It's ended up fully stripped on a rollover jig, and is now being tackled professionally. I'd imagine his repair bill is huge, but I do know the car had sentimental value to him. Not trying to p1ss in your fireworks, just trying to be realistic. The money you'd sink into this one would buy you a much cleaner shell. Yep, I totally agree that this is continuing to spiral in a very downward motion and will likely continue to do so. I have also discovered a load of bodge at the rear end which I also wasn't expecting (I'll update with photos later). Given that it is getting well beyond my current capabilities I did draft in the opinion of a local vehicle restorer to get a more professional opinion and discuss some options. He has come out to take a look at the car in person and been pretty helpful with advice. With what I have found so far and with the panels I have to repair it is currently salvageable (with a lot of patience and a lot of spot weld drilling). However, I am being very realistic about the future of this car as I continue to strip it down and there will be a point which it really doesn't become viable (something that it is currently teetering on the edge of). For now I'm going to press on with what I can do without injecting any serious cash into it. Once I have the full picture, then decisions will need to be made. |
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ade36
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May 17, 2016 10:35:55 GMT
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Holy Bodgery Batman! That strut top is beyond belief - how can anyone plug that with filler and think "yup, tidy repair that!"? As a couple of posters have mentioned - could you not transfer the boot panels onto the Golf shell, or did you disassemble the Golf shell to get it into the back garden? Nope, the Golf is in "repair panels" down the side of my house so that's not a viable option. Unfortunately I really didn't have the space to store it complete |
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ade36
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May 17, 2016 10:42:05 GMT
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is it not possible to just chop the front end off the golf shell and attach the two together, i know that makes it a cut and shut but done right it should be fine right? This idea was actually discussed with the local restoration shop. However, the chassis legs and what can been seen of the bulkhead on the Jetta are actually in alright nick. The plan at present is to pick off the inner wings complete from the chassis legs of the golf and the jetta by drilling out the spot welds and replace as a complete panel. Time consuming work, but with a jig it should be relatively simple in practice. As said before, all depends what I continue to find as I pick away at it! |
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May 17, 2016 12:10:41 GMT
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is it not possible to just chop the front end off the golf shell and attach the two together, i know that makes it a cut and shut but done right it should be fine right? This idea was actually discussed with the local restoration shop. However, the chassis legs and what can been seen of the bulkhead on the Jetta are actually in alright nick. The plan at present is to pick off the inner wings complete from the chassis legs of the golf and the jetta by drilling out the spot welds and replace as a complete panel. Time consuming work, but with a jig it should be relatively simple in practice. As said before, all depends what I continue to find as I pick away at it! you're brave i give you that man, should be wicked when it's done though |
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Only dogs go for new cars, real cars have rust!
Ford capri laser 1.6 -http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181032/1986-ford-capri-laser-updates
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May 17, 2016 19:27:52 GMT
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Makes you wonder how it's been getting tickets all these years! That hasn't happened in 12 months! Shocking really.
The old Abf was a quality lump, got one in my passats day it goes really well, will be brilliant in the lighter Jetta. Better low end torque than the 1.8 kr but still revs out just as well at the top end. Are you going carbs or Fi?
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ade36
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May 17, 2016 21:20:13 GMT
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Makes you wonder how it's been getting tickets all these years! That hasn't happened in 12 months! Shocking really. The old Abf was a quality lump, got one in my passats day it goes really well, will be brilliant in the lighter Jetta. Better low end torque than the 1.8 kr but still revs out just as well at the top end. Are you going carbs or Fi? Going carbs. Most likely zx9r (or similar) bike carbs as I can't afford webers. And yeah, how it's been getting mot's is baffling. I guess once it's skimmed over with filler and painted it isn't so easily seen but even so... |
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vanpeebles
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It's made me feel a lot better about the filler I found on my MGB, I've got nothing on you  If you can save this car we will make you a medal as big as a dustbin lid from bodge |
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May 23, 2016 10:42:10 GMT
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Wow! I used to work with a guy that had a MK2 Jetta Gti. We nicknamed it the Isopon flier!!
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vanpeebles
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I am eastbound in pursuit of a white Lamborghini, this is not a recording.
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May 23, 2016 11:28:53 GMT
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Haha that's a good name  There must of been a team of men mixing it with shovels. That lump off the front panel is my fave, it's huge! |
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May 23, 2016 14:51:02 GMT
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Really makes you wonder, especially for the fact that buying that much filler would cost you more in money and time, why not just do it properly in the first place :s on a brighter note, i have a mk1 jetta for sale if your interested? alot cleaner than this although its engineless, i brought it for the engine for my mk1 caddy, if your interested feel free to drop me a text for a chat 07557911534
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MK2VR6
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So...what happened to this?
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ade36
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So...what happened to this? It still lives... kind of. Family life and hectic work schedule have left the poor old Jetta on the backburner over the summer unfortunately. That said, I've been busy working on the (completely un-car related) day job and have recently managed to upgrade my office to a larger premises with a large storage area. So, after a year of ownership, I am finally able to store (and hopefully work on) the Jetta in the dry! Moved it here last week. Yes, she is still looking very sorry for herself. Yes, there is an unfathomable amount of work ahead on this. But now its securely stored in a workshop I should be able to throw a few man hours at it here and there. Collectively, the car is a financial and logical write off. However, it's not worth anything in its current state and I really can't justify buying a replacement. So rather than being without a project for years on end again I am planning to soldier on with it. Individually each repair is do-able so I intend to just treat each repair individually rather than getting put off by the monumental scale of the entire wibblepoo-box that it currently is. Learn as I go and see where I end up. Probably going to sell the ABF lump and 02A gearbox to try and free up some funds to keep me stocked in welding wire and motivational self-help videos for the road ahead... |
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Holy cow. That's a lot of filler.
I must admit I don't envy you one bit. From what I've seen these old VWs are prone to some pretty horrific rust, which has clearly been made worse by the King of Bodge at some point.
Good luck with it and do keep us updated. You've also now got about 8 months until the beginning of summer next year to power through this. Slow and steady wins the race.
Bookmarked for sure!
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ade36
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 IMG_5922 by Adrian Child, on Flickr Tucked up in her new home... The tear down of the car is slow as I'm fitting it around work but in the couple of weeks it's been here it feels like i've achieved more with it than the year it was on the drive. |
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ade36
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Oct 28, 2016 13:53:52 GMT
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So, not that much has been going on recently... Did manage to get the windscreen out (obviously it broke in the process but was going to replace it anyway as the original one looked like it had been cleaned with a belt sander):  IMG_5935 by Adrian Child, on Flickr No real surprises there then, knew the thing was made from filler and rust after looking at it from beneath. Good thing I have a decent golf scuttle to replace it. |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2017 13:36:00 GMT by ade36
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ade36
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Oct 28, 2016 13:57:08 GMT
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More annoyingly, I have been attempting to remove the rear beam... all went well until it came to lower it down and I realised that the offside mounting is right next to an old patch weld repair. The weld line has been run over the rear beam mounting meaning the beam is essentially welded to the bottom of the car... Another half hour job which has turned into an utter ball-ache. It's going to need cutting off now!  IMG_5941 by Adrian Child, on Flickr |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2017 13:36:46 GMT by ade36
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Untitled by Adrian Child, on Flickr
Untitled by Adrian Child, on Flickr
If you can save this car we will make you a medal as big as a dustbin lid from bodge 
There must of been a team of men mixing it with shovels. That lump off the front panel is my fave, it's huge!
