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Aug 13, 2015 14:28:15 GMT
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hello I've got this micra I really just fancy doing something totally different with it I was planning on turning it in to a pick up but after putting a thread on here about it I think I'll forget about that ha ha! But how about just jacking it up? I've lowered plenty of cars and made coilovers but never done the opposite. I know they do it to land rovers and such like but normal cars?? There is an e30 over my way that is jacked up but no idea how he has done it. I was thinking about just adding to the bottom of the standard shock. I would trust my welding with my life but I'm not shore what the stresses and strains would be on the standard shock. Any ideas or advice would be cool.
If any one thinks I'm just Being totally stupid feel free to say so. Haha!
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Last Edit: Aug 13, 2015 14:39:45 GMT by henrylb
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Aug 13, 2015 16:11:37 GMT
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Hi, it is fairly simple on a land Rover because they're on beam axles and so the geometry doesn't get upset too much, spacers between the chassis and bodyshell and taller tyres. You can adopt some of the principles to yours, putting spacers between the suspension pick up points i.e. strut top mount and body and front crossmember or bottom wishbone, taller tyres or larger diameter wheels but not low profile tyres, taller springs. I would say don't go to excess on any one thing just lots of little things.
However, lowering a car is safer because if anything goes wrong like a puncture it will fall to the floor. With a lifted car the centre of gravity is raised obviously, so if anything goes wrong the wheel could dig in and car could fall over!!
So don't go mad.
And well done for trying to be different.
Colin
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Aug 13, 2015 17:37:25 GMT
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Thank you very much for that!!
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Aug 13, 2015 23:32:40 GMT
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I've seen a Triumph 2500 saloon on what looked like a Landrover chassis. It didn't look quite as silly as it sounds. If you are serious you could do worse than to look for a small 4x4 like the Suzuki SJ413 as a donor vehicle and go from there.
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I was thinking that as I think I've seen a golf like that befor but think it will add a fair bit to what is ment to be cheep ish as I'm skint ha! But good plan.
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Indie
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Aug 14, 2015 12:42:38 GMT
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sowen
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Lift kit on a car??sowen
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Aug 14, 2015 12:52:17 GMT
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To do it properly you need to know how the existing suspension and drivetrain is attached, and how much you'd like to lift it by? Do you want to fit bigger chunkier wheels and make it look like an expedition vehicle etc? Also, how much time and effort do you want to put in, and do you want it to work in light offroad situations or just look like it could?
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bortaf
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Aug 14, 2015 13:01:38 GMT
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The main issues i can see are, when you lower a car the suspension usually gets more neg camber which is good to a point, when you lift it you get pos camber, never good in any measure, you may find you need longer brake pipes and handbrake cable as well ??
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Rich
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Lift kit on a car??Rich
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Aug 14, 2015 15:03:58 GMT
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I was thinking that as I think I've seen a golf like that befor but think it will add a fair bit to what is ment to be cheep ish as I'm skint ha! But good plan. Sure you didn't just see a golf country? Inspiration if nothing else. To do a neat job, I'll echo everyone else and say it's a case of needing to either move all the suspension pickup points the same amount or do some serious geometry re-jigging to account for the positive camber you would end up with if you just added longer sprigs or lengthened the struts.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:10:33 GMT
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What about spacers between front subframe and body so suspension remains in alignment ? It would lower engine as well so driveshaft angles would be the same. Obviously longer struts would be needed or some sort of extenders for the top mount. Larger dia wheels and tyres could then be fitted. With rear you'd have to make your own mini subframe, that bolted to existing suspension mounting points, that duplicated the mountings a couple of inches lower. What about using the rear chassis legs off a scrap car and adapting them ?
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Aug 14, 2015 16:00:32 GMT
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I'd go down the route of finding a 4x4 chassis and bolting your chosen body to it like this:- It worked for me.
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