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I have had my doubts for awhile. Things don't quite add up. There is a huge difference between abused and worn out. This grinder is abused. A lot of things have been mullered over the last 65 years. But it's not as worn as I would expect. The warning bells rang with the broken traverse wheel. The wheelhead wouldn't clamp down solid as it should. So, started stripping it down.  This was a tell tale sign it's been dropped  So was this  Once it was stripped down further, this explains why you cannot lock the wheelhead down  Still undecided whether I will rebuild this or not. Need to look at the slides before I make up my mind. Made lifting brackets to lift the bed off the slides  So until that's off, I cannot commit. Gut feeling says it needs to be saved. Not overly difficult for me to do. If I don't, who will?This, is so much like the mazda,in that it's so far gone for most, that I think I need to rebuild it. Really like the idea of making the most complicated part in the engine all oldschool. And finishing it on a machine that was made before the engine had been designed. Stay tuned.... |
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mattiwagon
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Save it! You have the skills dude. Also you might end up with something you can pass on once youve had your use of it.
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If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo
97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion
97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold
04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket
04 battered T5 pickup in blue!
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Save it! You have the skills dude. Also you might end up with something you can pass on once youve had your use of it. 100% agree. But then, given how much I'm enjoying this thread, I would, wouldn't I?  |
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fer4l
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Save it! You have the skills dude. Also you might end up with something you can pass on once youve had your use of it. 100% agree. But then, given how much I'm enjoying this thread, I would, wouldn't I? +1 x2 |
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Not overly difficult for me to do. If I don't, who will?This, is so much like the mazda,in that it's so far gone for most, that I think I need to rebuild it. Ah yes the Mazda. I forgot you had a car. At this rate there'll be no fossil fuels left to run it by the time it's finished so best convert it to electric powered  |
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Not overly difficult for me to do. If I don't, who will?This, is so much like the mazda,in that it's so far gone for most, that I think I need to rebuild it. Ah yes the Mazda. I forgot you had a car. At this rate there'll be no fossil fuels left to run it by the time it's finished so best convert it to electric powered All part of the master plan. Stockpiling petrol as we speak. This three rotor has big flames to feed....  |
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Save it! You have the skills dude. Also you might end up with something you can pass on once youve had your use of it. 100% agree. But then, given how much I'm enjoying this thread, I would, wouldn't I? My thought exactly! You know it makes sense! |
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so assuming you would just make whole new parts, rather than make good on those welds ?
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so assuming you would just make whole new parts, rather than make good on those welds ? That welded part isn't too bad, as long as the rest of it isn't bent. Will measure after cleaning to see. Damaged thread underneath there can be repaired by machining it out and fitting an insert. |
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And if the bed is worn I take it you could have it reground? At a cost though.
For the record I'd like to see it rescued too. Who wouldn't?
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bstardchild
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Very much enjoying this thread on a whole number of levels but mainly because I was brought up before the throw away culture existed for most people. There is some satisfaction in fixing stuff that would normally be thrown away - now I don't have your skills or equipment that you have available but I do enjoy giving things another lease of life in some shape or form. Last year I lost the garage/car hoover - 30 plus years of service under less than idea conditions - it had duct tape patches on the broken casings and cable ties holding the bag lid on but I'd kept it going way past the expect life until the motor bearings cried enough and welded themselves solid - I actually investigated a replacement motor - if one existed I might have fixed it!!!! I now have my Grans old vacuum (bless her soul she won't be needing it any more) and if I can get another 20 years out of that I'll be quite happy because I'm damn sure that modern stuff is "built to a price" rather than "built to a std and costed accordingly" (I don't consider being built to a price of three fifths of FA an acceptable std) Both Mrs BC's push bike and mine are over 23 years old, the frames have been resprayed, the tyres, saddles, cables, brakes & chains replaced several times - even the wheels have been replaced but they ride nice and what's the point in buying a new one - it's only new for a day!!! Sorry that post turned out longer than planned - please carry on  |
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And if the bed is worn I take it you could have it reground? At a cost though. For the record I'd like to see it rescued too. Who wouldn't? Yes,you can get the slides reground and scraped in. Cost about £600 plus vat per slide. I don't think the main slides are too bad. Still subject to the table coming off. |
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I'm with you on that score , Bstardchild. The current stuff really is made to a price,but unfortunately that's the way of the world we live in these days. Everyone ,or should I say most people, all want the latest and greatest. Image is critical. Me? I say don't keep up with the Joneses, do us a favour and shoot them..... Anyway. Moving along. This was my rewards for googliness...and brilliant customer service from Jones and Shipman. Can't help but think the chances of someone contacting the manufacturer of something made today,in 65 years time wont bee getting," terribly sorry but we no longer stock parts for it,but here's all the information I could find,including the owners manual." Little things like that make me smile....A lot more than having the latest or greatest,as you can't put a price on good customer service.   It shows the missing traverse motor,but more importantly it shows the size of the pulleys,tells you the hp sauce rating of the motor and gives you traverse speeds. Maximum speed is 57 inches a minute which,when converted out of Twelfty thirds,equates to just over 1.4m a minute.  It also shows,and explains the levers on the apron. The lever with the red knob on the end controls the table traverse. It should give you four options. Neutral,hand feed, power feed with no dwell,and power feed with dwell. Something isn't right on mine. Lever feels very vague,like stirring a box of neutrals. Could be wear in the linkages. Once the table is out the way,I should be able to see  It also shows what the missing levers for the automatic cross feed originally looked like. |
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Last Edit: May 5, 2016 9:57:13 GMT by Deleted
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Another vote for rebuilding. But I think you've set your sights too low.. 3 and 4 rotors have been done... time to make a 32B (5 rotor) |
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You continue to just leave me picking up my jaw daily.
Pity about abuse of this machine.
Guess whoever had that done, used it and turned out work was able to limp along nicely.
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Can't fault Jones and Shipman for their time and customer service!
You have to try to save it now!
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Another vote for the rebuild. I have a 1940 ML4 lathe that I paid £50.00 for, now running and producing decent work .
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1994 Mercedes e220 petrol estate, daily driver.
1998 Peugeot 406 Coupe 3.0 v6, shopping car.
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Is this of use to you before it gets binned   |
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^^
Yes please ! Looks the same as the motor I plan to use on the pull max. One of the brush holders on mine is a bit iffy.... Will pm you this evening. Thank you !
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