qwerty
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Building a Budget Rod?qwerty
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Well I'm really getting into the whole Rod thang!! I would really love a fenderless Trad Rod T but my funds are limited to say the least.
So what makes the perfect budget rod? Its gotta be readily available, good parts back up and easily upgradeable?
Base?? I was think Morris Minor as the obvious choice but what are your suggestions?
Engine?? V8's are ruled out I was thinking the venerable Pinto, Cheap, easy to get a hold of, already RWD and Tuneable. Negative is the weight. I was also thinking perhaps a Straight six. BMW or similar with side draught carbs ;D
Bit of rake some wide wheels slapped on the back and should b an ok budget rod which could evolve over time.
But what would you's lot do?
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2007 9:56:47 GMT by qwerty
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building a T can be pretty cheap, CC did a build up running feature of a cheap T.
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qwerty
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Building a Budget Rod?qwerty
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OOOH ears prick up!! Which issues and I'll try and find them!!
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mako
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'77 Datsun 100A, '79 Mitsubishi Sapporo 2000 GSR
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really cant remember, probably about 3 years ago. I think it was a turtle deck T.
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depends what you want.... a "hot roddy british saloon" Moior, 100E, etc. a "brit rod" - Ford Pop, Austin 7, Devon, similar thing a "trad rod" - live axles Ford prewar style body and no fenders a "street rod" - independant suspnsion, modern brakes etc. The cheapest /easiest way used to be to pick up soemthing that somneone had done a load of work on and goven up on after doing all the hard stuff. However eBay seems to have bumped the price of these. Also a lot of "unfashionable" rods get stored for years and then dug out and sold just needing a makeover. Or not if you like early 90s pastel paint schemes, 3 spoke wheels, or whatever. Again eBay has helped the value of these upwards. Have a sift through the for sale section in NSRA forum and Rodandclassicmart. Building form scratch will always take time and money. Have a look at www.dooster.co.uk for ideas on kit built rods to save time and money. Not surewhats goin on with Dooster at the mo, I hear funny stories... |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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might be able to help you out with some ideas and parts.iv got a 1600.4cylinder with 5speed box with twin carbs on in the garage. also some old buss lamps,i think.defnitly got a narrow bench seat and few bits an pieces like that.also know alot of people with bits for sale.holla at me next time your on msn.
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I'd think outta the box, depending on what you want, but drastically altering something into a rod style thing is always worth a shot, like that Toyota landcruiser and that stock car Toyota thing that been posted here before, also outta teh box you have that 200sx minor, however having all that reliable tech would not be rough and ready enough for me...
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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qwerty
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Ideally I'd like a trad Rod. But it needs to be practical really as well which I know is asking a lot
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does it need to be left on the street?
I always wanted a rod, but no garage means no roofs and exposed engines are a no go, especially on my council estate!
What constitutes practical to you?
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I'd think outta the box, depending on what you want, but drastically altering something into a rod style thing is always worth a shot, like that Toyota landcruiser and that stock car Toyota thing that been posted here before, also outta teh box you have that 200sx minor, however having all that reliable tech would not be rough and ready enough for me... thinking outside the box means you are on your own. Means you will run up against walls you don't know how to get round and may not know the right people to help you. Build (or buy) something which follows a wll established formula and you'll be amazed how many people can help. If local rodders recognise it as a rod they will be round to say hello... It may work out more expensive and not actually be what you wanted. |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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qwerty
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It'll be parked under a carport or perhaps in the garage. Practical means I can use it in all weather and probably to get to work 1 day a week, basically a daily drive LOL. I could keep the Polo as well and use that as a daily but will have to see.
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Ideally I'd like a trad Rod. But it needs to be practical really as well which I know is asking a lot How about looking ofr an old Rays Rods 3 window? A lot fo these were built back in the day and must be hiding in garages all over the cpcountry, they do turn up now and again. Many were built on Triumph Herald / vitesse chassis and have much of the stock running gear under them. they have a roof, and windows, and locks. You can usually insure them as kit cars which can be cheaper than hot rods for younger drivers. ditto some of the Jago stuff. |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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right, so you need a roof (a secure roof) and it needs to be propely legal (covered engine parts etc)
Budget?
Cant beat a nice pop. Saw a mat black one, red steels etc, on ebay with a 2l pinto etc go for £2k.
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Whats this based on ?  It looks almost like an Austin Ruby or Seven chopped body on the chassis of something much larger.. |
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Id guess that was based on a particulaly surreal dream brought about by inbibing strage european liquer and off cheese.
i like it though
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thinking outside the box means you are on your own. Means you will run up against walls you don't know how to get round and may not know the right people to help you... Yeah agree there, personally i'd be more confident chipping bits off a car and rebilding, than starting from scratch. It was with it only requiring a 1600 or 2000cc engine that got me onto that one. building a car from scratch takes a lot of time, skillorzorz, money, dedication, and after all that i'd want to wang a V8 in while i'm at etc. Qwerty, IMO Seth, jonny69, unmuffled ryan etc n chums are the people to watch for this, get old car and play and learn modify as and when...  |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Dez
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Building a Budget Rod?Dez
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doesnt seem to be really based on anything, just a collection of parts and maybe the odd panel. the grille shell is model A, and the axle appears to be mk2 transit. body looks cobbled together, and the chassis will be heavily Z-ed to get it sitting that low so its probly jsut a pile of box section welded together.
all ile say about building a hot rod, is don't aim too high or youll miss your target. be realistic about the amout of work involved. if all youve ever done is lower cars, service them, minor body repair, etc. you wont be able to chop and channel something, build a chassis, and make a mismatched motor/gearbox/axle/prop/brake system/ controls work together easily by yourself, if at all.
if youre a beginner to heavy modification,, id recommend buying something like a minor and doing a motor swop. itll teach you so much its worth doing it to learn the skills, plus the theory and physcics of how everything works. even of you sell the car when its done.
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2007 11:14:30 GMT by Dez
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Dez
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Building a Budget Rod?Dez
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I don't rate dooster at all, even for a beginner. they look clumsy, and are quite expensive for what you get. plus, it means SVA, unless youre in the habit of buying dodgy V5s....... the jumping through hoops for the SVA rigmarole is the kind thing that can really kill a project like this halfway through. I would never recommend a beginner to jump in both feet first and buy what is esentially a fiberglass kit car, the workload to get it finished, legal and registered is just overfacing and ultimately leads to a half done project up for sale for far less than theyve got in it. i find if someone takes a complete working car, removed part of it, e.g. motor, then replaces it with a bigger one, they keep on top of the work involved with it better, as they can understand what needs ot be done cos its kinda a case of adding back what was there before but improved, you don't need the vision you need ot get a scratch built rod completed. |
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