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Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..

hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 2, 2016 22:08:44 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Feb 2, 2016 9:07:08 GMT juggs said: Hey very impressed with this swap, have saw it over on the merc forum think it's great your willing to share the info with others as OM series tuning info is a bit thin on the ground in the UK. I also have a c250, waited like 8 months constant searching to find a manual estate that wasn't rotten beyond repair! As for the boost bleed mod, have you tried this now if so how have you found boost response? I was toying between trying this out or converting my stock gt20 turbo to use a manual pressure driven actuator, not sure how the Ecu would get on having no control??.. Currently it will spike to around 23-24psi & tail off to around 18 with the rack sensor mod. Cold conditions 4th or 5th gear can see 25psi spike which throws the car into limp mode as I presume it see's over boost. Good luck with the rest of your build & if you stick with the electric pump for a while let me know as I have a couple of contacts for people UK/Ireland based who may be able to sort out a tune with raised torque limits & boost cut delete I literally didn't think manual wagons existed. Besides the 722.6 auto is stronger anyway, and the ole controller accepts paddle input, I just need to try a w203 steering wheel (with paddles) then I'm laughing.. I haven't bled the map signal because the turbo is right on its limit, its likely any more pressure will push the compressor out of its map and the higher pressure won't offset the extra heat, so I'm building a holset manifold. Although with a pressure actuator you could set it to 23/24psi constant then it won't peel back to 18 like you say, interesting.. I will build and fit the manifold and turbo, install a 722 controller and flappy paddles, then go for an edc controller before I have the pump built. Ages to go yet.. On the plus side I did find some beige front door cards..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 19, 2016 14:17:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Started on my air-fluid ATF cooler, which will be mounted behind the OS bumper / wing area. BEcause I live in a terrace in London now I only have my cabinet tool box so I've had to order nuts, bolts, washers, a dewalt drill and even an M6 clearance drill.. lol
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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stefan Posted a lot If it isn't broken fix it till it is Posts: 1,598	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..stefan @stefan
	Feb 20, 2016 15:16:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice conversion mate thought about doing this a few times in the past with a mechanical pump, did not know you could get a stand alone gearbox controller that's what put me off
	POWER IS EVERYTHING WITHOUT CONTROL 1985 Honda jazz 1997 Saab 93 convertible 2010 transit 280

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 29, 2016 15:08:48 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	In no particular order, I've finished fabricating my ATF cooler from the used Mocal core, hopefully my rubber washer vibration isolators will stop it shaking to bits.. to give me enough clearance I had to cut holes in the inner wing to allow the fittings to poke up through, and the piping travels though the void below the headlight, those blue 1/2" lines terminate just out of shot into 1/2" - 3/8" brass reducers as the ATF hard lines running down the sump are 10mm ID. The fan will be ignition switched live as according to the Yanks there's no such thing as too cool for ATF, which is good, as a temperature switch will just introduce another potential leak point and won't be very elegant from a wiring perspective at the very least. The big air filter is in place to give me space to start mocking up the turbo manifold, I've got a W210 header tank also which runs down the LH of the wing to give more turbo space, pics to follow on that (waiting on hose fittings and stuff).
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 29, 2016 15:10:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Those push-fit mocal hose and fittings are a mish by the way, passers by thought I was having a stroke trying to get them together.. Turns out hot water is the key..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 29, 2016 15:15:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I am in the process of fitting W220 S600 brembo 4-pots which are aluminium & suit 345mm rotors, and C32 345mm rotors. Slight misalignment in caliper to disk so I'm making 3mm (IIRC) hard washers to space the caliper central again, and looking at slightly longer mounting bolts to accommodate. I'll also need custom hoses made with banjo at the caliper end, but it's a very cheap way to upgrade (W220 calipers are ï¿½50 each from a breakers here in UK). In case you're looking to do the same, S500 use 330mm and S600 use 345mm rotors.. Pics to follow
	Last Edit: Feb 29, 2016 15:15:39 GMT by hario S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Feb 29, 2016 15:23:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Feb 20, 2016 15:16:36 GMT stefan said: Nice conversion mate thought about doing this a few times in the past with a mechanical pump, did not know you could get a stand alone gearbox controller that's what put me off Yes mate, this guy: www.ofgear.dk/ Get it while the Euro rate is good
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Mar 8, 2016 10:38:54 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Purchased some W203 C32 AMG 345mm rotors, and W220 S600 BiTurbo AMG limo calipers for a bit of an upgrade. I think I might need to make some (around 3mm) hard washer spacers for between the caliper and the knuckle mating surfaces to centre the calipers on the rotors, and 3mm longer bolts, not sure what bolt rating I need for that, 12.1? Also the brake hose enters the caliper from a different angle, so I've converted the caliper end to banjo, and need to fit it and measure the new length, about +100mm ish I think.. TBC, more to follow.
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Mar 10, 2016 13:39:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Made some turbo space: Before/after w210 header tank swap..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Apr 7, 2016 10:17:39 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Added some chav by 9's (JL audio)
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Apr 7, 2016 10:34:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Had to mock up to get the correct hose length as the fitting on the W220 callipers are in a different place. Also need 5mm hard steel washers to centralise them on the rotors. Built my own hoses from rebuildable fittings I got from Rallydesign.co.uk, heat shrink for neatness.. The gold is some kind of anti corrosion coating.
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	May 20, 2016 15:38:11 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Not a bad weekend all in. All 4 jacking points cut out and replaced with good metal, seamed, waxoiled inside. Shame I broke the wood burner door..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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Mercdan68 Posted hell of a lot Posts: 9,221 Club RR Member Number: 68	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..Mercdan68 @forddan68 Club Retro Rides Member 68
	May 20, 2016 16:26:12 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Great work on such a good car the w202s are great cars, price rises imminent!
	Fraud owners club member 2003 W211 Mercedes E class 1989 Sierra sapphire 1998 ex bt fiesta van

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	May 22, 2016 11:30:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	May 20, 2016 16:26:12 GMT Mercdan68 said: Great work on such a good car the w202s are great cars, price rises imminent! Thanks mate! Yeah I figures / hoped that might happen. Mine was £620 2 years ago in need of an epic service and all the welding. I just hope the passage of time will make it less ugly..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	May 22, 2016 11:41:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	S600 calipers trial fitted to confirm my eyeballed spacer was the correct thickness, fortunately it was. The internet sourced information that banjos are needed on the caliper end is wrong, gona fit convex inline fittings to the new hoses as per OEM. Clears the wheel by 5mm..! That reminds me, I need to find some affordable replacements for those ditch-finders, £70 a pair from ebay never ends well.
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Jun 1, 2016 20:10:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Had to remove the manifold and downpipe to mock up the turbo in position to tack the head flange and turbo flange together to allow me to build the new manifold off the vehicle as it's my daily.. This photo was backwards because I had to selfie because my camera started playing up.. I have now welded some bar stock between the two flanges so I can build it on the bench..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Jul 8, 2016 13:19:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	My low pressure compounding turbo arrived so I can mock up more of the manifold.. progress has been slow because I can't find anyone who sells 2'' x 1.5'' concentric butt-weld reducers in mild, only 316SS at about £20 each!! Laptop & Haynes manual for scale.. It's really bloody big..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Jul 13, 2016 12:53:54 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	After peeling my face off the windscreen, I can confirm 345mm rotors are overkill..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Aug 1, 2016 13:42:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Wing was rusty.. Off, and Krusted.. Forgot the filler and priming action shots.. Base coated: Installed because I don't have any top coat lacquer.. Not bad for rattle can job though. Hopefully the clear top makes it match more..
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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hario Part of things S202 C300STD Posts: 421	Mercedes C250TD Wagon - into - C300TD Wagon..hario @hario
	Aug 4, 2016 12:43:57 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Turns out jtmplumbing.co.uk sell good cheap weld elbows including conical reducers.. About a fiver each. (for the oval ports on the 606).
	S202 C300TD Wagon Installed: OM606 & 722.6, Evo6 IC, S600AMG callipers & 345mm rotors. No catz. Leatherish seats.. Rust.. Future: DIY manifolds & turbo compound build. Built IP, & some kind of software. Less rust..

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